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Preset No.3 · 10-10-2014 06:19PM #1

.@flyethiopian to operate new Addis Ababa-@DublinAirport-@flyLAXairport service from next June. http://t.co/r2r3kPaO54

jamo2oo9 · 10-10-2014 06:21PM

Your link is broken.

http://worldairlinenews.com/2014/10/10/ethiopian-airlines-is-bringing-the-boeing-787-to-dublin-and-los-angeles-starting-in-june/

10-10-2014 07:36PM

Interesting and welcome addition. Thought it was meant to be a 777-300 I guess they revised their plans.

Preset No.3 · 10-10-2014 07:43PM

So I assume you could fly the DUB-LAX route?

jamo2oo9 · 10-10-2014 07:46PM

Preset No.3 wrote: »

So I assume you could fly the DUB-LAX route?

I'm not entirely sure, I thought I read somewhere before that airlines from outside the EU are allowed to make a scheduled stop in the EU but cannot pick up any passengers from that scheduled stop.

Maybe somebody else could clarify this more

owenc · 10-10-2014 07:55PM

No it was always a 787

Preset No.3 · 10-10-2014 08:04PM

What about the Air New Zealand flight that goes AKL-LAX-LHR?

I know you can bool the LAX-LHR segment.

10-10-2014 08:13PM

Preset No.3 wrote: »

What about the Air New Zealand flight that goes AKL-LAX-LHR?

I know you can bool the LAX-LHR segment.

Ditto for the Emirates that goes via Milan and Rome. Kuwaiti via London to JFK etc. Depends on the freedom granted.

airbus125 · 10-10-2014 08:27PM

Yes they will be selling tickets to irish passengers to LAX & ADD

Quote from DAA website

Ireland has granted Ethiopian what are termed fifth freedom rights, which enable the airline to sell tickets on all sectors of the new Addis Ababa to Los Angeles route.

Preset No.3 · 10-10-2014 08:29PM

http://m.independent.ie/life/travel/travel-news/dublin-airport-announces-direct-flights-to-la-and-addis-ababa-30654702.html

man98 · 10-10-2014 08:48PM

Great news, even with 3 flights a week. I'm sure there'll be good interest in the DUB - LAX sector, maybe some to Addis Ababa, who knows.

murphaph · 10-10-2014 09:58PM

Maybe an alternative and interesting way to go to South Africa too, with a stopover in Addis Ababa.

Time · 10-10-2014 11:01PM

murphaph wrote: »

Maybe an alternative and interesting way to go to South Africa too, with a stopover in Addis Ababa.

Hopefully it's competitive on price, I fly through IST at the moment but a quicker *a operated route would be fantastic.

L1011 · 10-10-2014 11:05PM

DUB-ADD will be popular with the NGO sector for connection options and overall travel time compared to going via other hubs; assuming its priced competitively enough.

I suspect they'd be perfectly happy not being in a position to sell any DUB-XXX tickets due to everything being booked through but its a welcome back-up for sales.

Stinicker · 10-10-2014 11:30PM

This route should sell seats for Ethiopian as it will give a large part of the African Diaspora in Ireland a more direct route home to Africa without needing to transit via Heathrow, Amsterdam or Paris or flying to the UAE to connect with Emirates or Etihad, and for many the necessary transit visa situation would enable many to travel much easer due to the ROI being outside Schengen.

Ethiopian also offers a far more direct route to Johannesburg in South Africa than flying via Emirates and Dubai for example. Having direct service to LAX from Dublin is fantastic and with San Fran running by EI is even greater news.

Considering Ethiopian and United Airlines are both Star Alliance members I wonder if there will be codesharing eg. DUB-LAX with Ethiopian and then onwards to San Diego, Las Vegas or even Honolulu in Hawaii or would United opt-out preferring to keep the customers and route those TATL passengers via its Newark hub?

I have always had notions about visiting the African continent and with Ethiopian starting this next year it might never be a better time providing fares are ok, Ebola dosen't spread outside West Africa and of course that the 787 continues to be safe. Flying on the 787 would be my biggest concern particularly after the Al-Jazeera Documentary last month about the plane.

FuzzyDunlop100 · 11-10-2014 01:07PM

This'll be the first schedule 787 at Dublin, right?

Happy days!

knockon · 11-10-2014 02:26PM

Looks like you can check in an extra suitcase too. Could save a family of 5 people €375 if everyone brought an extra bag back from LAX. (When you compare bag fees with EI from SFO to DUB)

Ethopian Airlines website......

Free baggage allowance on long-haul flights

For numerous long-haul flights the Piece Concept applies. This means that adult passenger may check in up to two pieces of baggage in addition to his carry-on baggage free of charge. Please check the chart below for the allowed weights per piece.

Economy

Across Atlantic from to U.S.A. - 2 pieces, 23 kg each

dm09 · 12-10-2014 05:18PM

Stinicker wrote: »

This route should sell seats for Ethiopian as it will give a large part of the African Diaspora in Ireland a more direct route home to Africa without needing to transit via Heathrow, Amsterdam or Paris .

The majority of the African migrants in Ireland are from Nigeria, its only a 6hr flight to Lagos from Paris/London whereas the flight to Addis Abba will be about 9hrs and then its a 5hr flight from Addis Abba to Lagos, it will definitely be convenient for any East Africans living here also great to see a return of a Dublin-LAX service

smurfjed · 12-10-2014 09:25PM

Why did they grant them the 5th freedom rights? I would have thought that EI would have objected as this is setting a precedent that the Middle East big boys might like to follow.

I also sincerely hope that they hold passenger passports and hand them over in a large envelope to Irish Immigration, this would certainly be the best way to ensure that the aircrafts toilets do not get blocked!

man98 · 12-10-2014 09:44PM

If EI never objected, they mustn't be too arsed over SFO expansion…

hfallada · 12-10-2014 09:49PM

man98 wrote: »

If EI never objected, they mustn't be too arsed over SFO expansion…

San Francisco and LA are about a 6 hours drive. I cant imagine a few flights to LAX from DUB will cut into their passenger number at SFO. If anything E,I could benefit from this new airline in Dublin. It allows them to get Ethophian Airline passengers that want to go to other parts of Europe and North America, that are just using Dublin for connecting to other flights. I can see EI gaining more from this new airline in Dublin, than what they could possibly lose.

man98 · 12-10-2014 10:15PM

Someone going to Callifornia is going to Callifornia. I don't think this will impact much, but who knows.

L1011 · 12-10-2014 10:28PM

man98 wrote: »

Someone going to Callifornia is going to Callifornia. I don't think this will impact much, but who knows.

That's about the same as suggesting that someone who wants to fly to Amsterdam will fly to Paris instead.

Being 3 days a week rather than 7 as EI to SFO will be will have an impact though.

LiamaDelta · 12-10-2014 10:54PM

I used to use LHR-ADD regularly when working there. Probably not that much demand from DUB (apart from the NGO sector as mentioned earlier) but definitely will be a benefit for people to connect to other parts of Africa as Ethiopian one of the 'better' African airlines. They used to be very competitive on price not sure how they are now though. I often met people travelling via LHR and ADD onwards to other parts of Africa as it was cheaper on Ethiopian than many of the European carriers.

Preset No.3 · 13-10-2014 08:40AM

You will be of a certain age to remember the extreme famine that happened in Ethiopia in the 80s. Did they every really recover?

If you look at the skytrax reviews on the airline, they seem to be a bit of a disaster. So will it be a very different story on the 787 and is there still a perception that African airlines are a bit hit and miss? I know its new aircraft service but what is the overall opinion of this airline?

13-10-2014 09:12AM

LiamaDelta wrote: »

I used to use LHR-ADD regularly when working there. Probably not that much demand from DUB (apart from the NGO sector as mentioned earlier) but definitely will be a benefit for people to connect to other parts of Africa as Ethiopian one of the 'better' African airlines. They used to be very competitive on price not sure how they are now though. I often met people travelling via LHR and ADD onwards to other parts of Africa as it was cheaper on Ethiopian than many of the European carriers.

I imagine the african flights will be hub like Emirates and Etihad and passengers will transfer on to other destinations. It seems to be also what the airline is targetting

flazio · 13-10-2014 10:27AM

Will the stopover pax be using the US preclearance facilities while the plane is on the ground?

LXFlyer · 13-10-2014 10:54AM

flazio wrote: »

Will the stopover pax be using the US preclearance facilities while the plane is on the ground?

I would think that is the whole point of choosing Dublin.

LXFlyer · 13-10-2014 10:57AM

Preset No.3 wrote: »

You will be of a certain age to remember the extreme famine that happened in Ethiopia in the 80s. Did they every really recover?

If you look at the skytrax reviews on the airline, they seem to be a bit of a disaster. So will it be a very different story on the 787 and is there still a perception that African airlines are a bit hit and miss? I know its new aircraft service but what is the overall opinion of this airline?

Well they have the same rating as Aer Lingus, Delta, United, Iberia, SAS on Skytrax so they cannot be that bad!!

Tenger · 13-10-2014 10:58AM

FuzzyDunlop100 wrote: »

This'll be the first schedule 787 at Dublin, right?

The Dublin Spotters page on facebook may melt down, it was a bit OTT when the United B747 was here a few weeks ago.

Tenger · 13-10-2014 11:01AM

Preset No.3 wrote: »

.....So will it be a very different story on the 787 and is there still a perception that African airlines are a bit hit and miss? I know its new aircraft service but what is the overall opinion of this airline?

I would agree with the perception being there. But how much has changed over the last 10-15 years is hard to know unless you are involved.

I think Ethiopian would be at the top of the league for African airlines. Up there with SAA. They have been developing Addis as a continental hub for quite a few years now.

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