GW 8 Transfer Thread

Dearg81 · 07-10-2014 09:27PM

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Im looking at dummett and di maria out for baines and chadli for gw 9.

I have 2 free transfers and was thinking of getting Baines in too but I'm thinking fabregas out instead to Chadli or maybe Mane from Southampton who looks very attacking for a midfielder.

Iused2likebusts · 07-10-2014 09:31PM

Lemlin wrote: »

Di Maria is a 60 mil pound player. Do you not think he's capable of performing in United's tougher fixtures?

For me, fixtures come second to form and as long as he is scoring consistently I'll keep him.

He is a class player arguably the best player in the league. I just cant shake the idea that the run of goals he is on is unlikely to continue based on his career stats. Obviously with the form he is in it looks a foolish statement and due to his now high ownership it will be a risky move but Im almost certain Ill be taking him out after the WBA game for either the combo above or someone like hazard or sanchez. His stats are great so far but if truth be told 1 of his goals and 2 of his assists have been accidental. My problem then is which utd attacking player to get in after the arsenal game as I feel they will be the 2nd highest scorers in the league after City.

Iused2likebusts · 07-10-2014 09:35PM

Swiper the fox wrote: »

It's insanity on the level of Ramsey last year I know but Di Maria still hasn't convinced me that he is a 10 million pound player. I'll reconsider after the next tough 5 games that United have

Baines is looking very interesting to me now that I can afford him. Chadli seems like a good call, he seems to be in the right place at the right time quite a lot recently, personally I wouldn't pick him if I was the manager:o:pac:

Kaboul is another spurs player Im looking at what do you reckon.

Iused2likebusts · 07-10-2014 09:38PM

Dearg81 wrote: »

I have 2 free transfers and was thinking of getting Baines in too but I'm thinking fabregas out instead to Chadli or maybe Mane from Southampton who looks very attacking for a midfielder.

Ye I think Im going to move to 2 big mids from 3 to faciltate baines.
Something like dummet, fab, di maria to baines, chadli, hazard.

manual_man · 07-10-2014 09:47PM

Re Di Maria I initially had reservations, but for me he looks liberated at United, he has a freedom with his role that he never had at Real, and he's revelling in it, popping up everywhere and being involved in so much attacking play. Throw in set piece duty and I already have him as a must have. Form can change etc. but the last 4 gw's speak for themselves in terms of points returns

KevIRL · 07-10-2014 09:49PM

Swiper the fox wrote: »

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I'm still waiting for Luis to get a run in the league, I just can't convince myself that Azpil is safe in that spot. I'd be prepared to fork out the extra .4 for Cahill or Terry, surely they're both due a couple of goals soon.

Have seen you reference this before swiper. Azpi has played every minute of every PL game this season. Luis more for the cup and CL. He might (only might) get a very occasional rotation, but barring injury/suspension everything points to Azpi being first choice league starter for the season

FHFC · 07-10-2014 10:02PM

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I just cant shake the idea that the run of goals he is on is unlikely to continue based on his career stats.

I think this may have been said about a couple of players last year......cough yaya...

km79 · 07-10-2014 10:04PM

would any of ye upgrade falcao to aguero .....my heart says no but the fixtures say maybe

Swiper the fox · 07-10-2014 10:13PM

KevIRL wrote: »

Have seen you reference this before swiper. Azpi has played every minute of every PL game this season. Luis more for the cup and CL. He might (only might) get a very occasional rotation, but barring injury/suspension everything points to Azpi being first choice league starter for the season

I agree with you but there is just enough doubt in me to avoid Azpil for the sake of .4m. The main worry is the champions league rotation, to me that says that Mourinho sees very little between his two left backs, a poor game or a howler from Azpil or a stormer for Luis in the CL could see the change being made. Like I said I don't disagree but I'm not convinced enough.

Swiper the fox · 07-10-2014 10:16PM

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Kaboul is another spurs player Im looking at what do you reckon.

I was a fan of Chiriches initially but he seems a little bit error prone, I really like Kaboul and at this stage he looks solid in that spot, I've no doubt that he'll chip in with 3 or 4 goals also if he can keep the place(which I think he will now)

Rikand · 07-10-2014 10:35PM

Swiper the fox wrote: »

It's insanity on the level of Ramsey last year I know but Di Maria still hasn't convinced me that he is a 10 million pound player.

Wow, what has he got to do ?

3, 14, 11, 2, 13

Averaging almost 9 points per game which if he kept it going would be a 300+ point season.

Dearg81 · 07-10-2014 10:44PM

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Kaboul is another spurs player Im looking at what do you reckon.

I like him, I think he's their best defender. The only negative is he seems to be injury prone but Spurs have some good fixtures after the City match so he's a good pick.

Swiper the fox · 07-10-2014 10:45PM

Rikand wrote: »

Wow, what has he got to do ?

3, 14, 11, 2, 13

Averaging almost 9 points per game which if he kept it going would be a 300+ point season.

Those scores are all in the past now. I don't think he will keep producing at the level I would want for 10 million. He's a great player on great form but he's been lucky enough with a good share of those points. Sure that's what the game is about. I'll live and die by my opinions. I have Hazard who's not producing what I would have hoped to date but I'm happier with him going forward.

Shanotheslayer · 07-10-2014 10:54PM

Swiper the fox wrote: »

Those scores are all in the past now. I don't think he will keep producing at the level I would want for 10 million. He's a great player on great form but he's been lucky enough with a good share of those points. Sure that's what the game is about. I'll live and die by my opinions. I have Hazard who's not producing what I would have hoped to date but I'm happier with him going forward.

Statistical that makes no sense :P Di Maria has earned that 10million price tag based on those scores. Also you're forgetting he had the season of his life last season with RM and was assisting for fun. I see no logical reason why you think he won't keep the form up.

Swiper the fox · 07-10-2014 11:01PM

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Statistical that makes no sense :P Di Maria has earned that 10million price tag based on those scores. Also you're forgetting he had the season of his life last season with RM and was assisting for fun. I see no logical reason why you think he won't keep the form up.

Logic isn't my strong point. sometimes I'm right and oft times I'm wrong.

Western Pomise · 07-10-2014 11:03PM

Havnt been paying close attention lately...when did Pieters drop in price?...better ship him out sharpish.

Nib · 07-10-2014 11:10PM

Swiper the fox wrote: »

Those scores are all in the past now. I don't think he will keep producing at the level I would want for 10 million. He's a great player on great form but he's been lucky enough with a good share of those points. Sure that's what the game is about. I'll live and die by my opinions. I have Hazard who's not producing what I would have hoped to date but I'm happier with him going forward.

In the past? He got 13 points three days ago FFS.

You're way over thinking things.

Posada · 07-10-2014 11:12PM

Western Pomise wrote: »

Havnt been paying close attention lately...when did Pieters drop in price?...better ship him out sharpish.

Sunday night I think?

F1ngers · 07-10-2014 11:13PM

Western Pomise wrote: »

Havnt been paying close attention lately...when did Pieters drop in price?...better ship him out sharpish.

Check the prices change thread.
Updated daily (mostly).

Posada · 07-10-2014 11:24PM

The thing about Di Maria is his assists record at Real Madrid was fantastic. Remember only Messi had more assists in Spain during the four years ADM was there.

Add in BP's and I think he's worth the money.

Ace2007 · 07-10-2014 11:27PM

declan2693 wrote: »

I really want aguero but it going come at a cost.

what do you think of this

aguero + cheapy in

pelle and sterling out

What is the rest of your team like, for example I'm assuming you have Fab and ADM in midfield. I would personally keep Sterling and possible get rid of you other non-named midfield player and play 433.

Ace2007 · 07-10-2014 11:34PM

Dietsquirt wrote: »

Purely based on fixtures for the next few weeks:

Kompany ----> Baines

Good idea?

OR

Keep Kompany and do Ulloa
> Welbeck?

Tasty Arsenal fixtures coming up?

Everton have conceded on average of 2 goals a game, whatever about Baines attacking qualities, I wouldn't be touching him especially at his price. There are a lot better defensive players who would be more inclined to get a clean sheet - example Chelsea backline - Terry, Azpil. Terry is always good for a few goals and Azpil is getting bonus points this season - both of which are cheaper.

I think Welbeck will come good.

OneColdHand · 07-10-2014 11:48PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Everton have conceded on average of 2 goals a game, whatever about Baines attacking qualities, I wouldn't be touching him especially at his price. There are a lot better defensive players who would be more inclined to get a clean sheet - example Chelsea backline - Terry, Azpil. Terry is always good for a few goals and Azpil is getting bonus points this season - both of which are cheaper.

I think Welbeck will come good.

Well they conceeded 6 against Chelsea, which wont (probably!) happen them again, so that distorts it a bit. Also they played Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and United in the first 7 games. Their next 5 are considerably better, and they have 3 home games in those 5.

Ace2007 · 08-10-2014 12:03AM

OneColdHand wrote: »

Well they conceeded 6 against Chelsea, which wont (probably!) happen them again, so that distorts it a bit. Also they played Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and United in the first 7 games. Their next 5 are considerably better, and they have 3 home games in those 5.

I wouldn't necessarily say the next 5 are considerably better(in terms of keeping clean sheets, perhaps better in terms of winning), They play Swansea who are free scoring this season and then West ham have score 12 goals this season - more than Liverpool and Arsenal. Burnely should be a clean sheet one would expect but they scored 2 at the weekend so who knows.

If they were playing saying QPR/Villa/Stoke etc, whose goal scoring record is poor. then I would agree, but apart from Burnely I think they will concede in most of the next 5 games.

08-10-2014 02:12AM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Everton have conceded on average of 2 goals a game, whatever about Baines attacking qualities, I wouldn't be touching him especially at his price. There are a lot better defensive players who would be more inclined to get a clean sheet - example Chelsea backline - Terry, Azpil. Terry is always good for a few goals and Azpil is getting bonus points this season - both of which are cheaper.

I think Welbeck will come good.

You buy Baines as an extra midfielder with the bonus of a chance at clean sheets. He takes FKs and penos. You can't compare Terry or Azpil to him in an attacking sense imo. Relying on CBs for goals is sketchy in general imo. They can have 4 or 5 goal seasons and not score that many in the next 3 seasons.

Lemlin · 08-10-2014 07:16AM

Nib wrote: »

In the past? He got 13 points three days ago FFS.

You're way over thinking things.

In fairness to Swiper and Busts, Ozil was another big name signing from Madrid who started spectacularly but dropped off completely.

Di Maria has also to play tougher opposition yet.

His big scores have come against Leicester, QPR and an Everton team who had a game in Russia 72 hours before.

I'm keeping him but will be monitoring him now that United's fixtures get tougher.

OneColdHand · 08-10-2014 08:12AM

Ace2007 wrote: »

If they were playing saying QPR/Villa/Stoke etc, whose goal scoring record is poor. then I would agree, but apart from Burnely I think they will concede in most of the next 5 games.

They play Villa next!

Then Burnley!

But I get your point. I don't think anyone would get an Everton player at the minute expecting massive clean sheet returns! It's just the attacking returns are attractive.

For some reason I sort of regret getting Kompany in my WC. I can't put my finger on why, as he's returned 10 point for me in 2 weeks, which is relatively solid.

Swiper the fox · 08-10-2014 08:16AM

Lemlin wrote: »

In fairness to Swiper and Busts, Ozil was another big name signing from Madrid who started spectacularly but dropped off completely.

Di Maria has also to play tougher opposition yet.

His big scores have come against Leicester, QPR and an Everton team who had a game in Russia 72 hours before.

I'm keeping him but will be monitoring him now that United's fixtures get tougher.

If you rewind this forum one year you'll probably see that I was predicting this also. Ozil had quite a few "lucky" assists early last year but didn't threaten the goal himself often enough. That was one I got right in the long term.
What are DiMaria's shooting stats like? I know he had 17 assists and four goals last year but Madrid got 104 goals in the league alone.

KevIRL · 08-10-2014 08:37AM

Almost all of utds attacking play goes through ADM. Unlike ozil he has a number of world class finishers in front of him. Zero risk of rotation too.

John83 · 08-10-2014 09:23AM

Just wanted to bump this. Should I go with an -8 hit or play the WC?

John83 wrote: »

Having read through a couple of posts, I'm now having second thoughts on my WC.

Proposed changes:
Hamer out, Mannone in.

Pieters out, Baines in.

Terry out, Azpi in.

Sterling out, Silva in.

Mutch out, Boyd in.

Ulloa out, Welbeck in.

I could just take a -8 hit to do the transfers in bold. I really want Welbeck for the fixtures. In order to get Baines in, I'd need to free up the money tied up in Terry or Mutch. But I'm hesitant to take such a hit swapping two players from the same team or for a sub.

The other thing that's eating at me is the lack of any City attacking cover.

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