Protestant church attacked in Donegal.

Timberrrrrrrr · 03-10-2014 06:07PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

At first i'm shocked. But then I learn it's an Orange Hall and suddenly I don't care.

Couldn't even make it as far as the second paragraph before posting that drivel?

attempt was also made to burn down a Presbyterian church in the village.

caustic 1 · 03-10-2014 06:31PM

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

Eh, what has this to do with Protestantism? The Orange Order is a loyalist organisation. Very different things. Ireland is a very enjoyable place to grow up and live in as an Anglican (ignoring the modern Atheist sneering seen online). Rumours abound that they've been seen as President, winning All Ireland's and shopping in Supervalu.

Are there Catholics in the Orange Order? I think not, therefore, yeah has a lot to do with Protestantism, however I do believe this had to do with thugs wanting to stir the pot.

donegaLroad · 03-10-2014 06:38PM

I know this town very well and through the years there have never been bad relations between communities. People live side by side in peace here, work together and do business together, inter marry, and all the rest. What has changed in Convoy over the last number of years are 2 things.

There were very many houses left vacant after the building boom, a good few of these houses were let out to younger people that relocated from over the border.

The Garda station was closed due to cutbacks, as was the station in Raphoe.

Convoy started to get the reputation of being a bit wild, especially at weekends.

This incident may have been caused by visitors with strong prejudices from another jurisdiction.

kingchess · 03-10-2014 06:42PM

donegaLroad wrote: »

I know this town very well and through the years there have never been bad relations between communities. People live side by side in peace here, work together and do business together, inter marry, and all the rest. What has changed in Convoy over the last number of years are 2 things.

There were very many houses left vacant after the building boom, a good few of these houses were let out to younger people that relocated from over the border.

The Garda station was closed due to cutbacks, as was the station in Raphoe.

Convoy started to get the reputation of being a bit wild, especially at weekends.

This incident may have been caused by visitors with strong prejudices from another jurisdiction.

ahh yes -the Brits bringing their problems to our part of the Island

The Diabolical Monocle · 03-10-2014 06:51PM

sub-tiny percentage of a rural local population in isolated moment of bigotry shocker

John Doe1 · 03-10-2014 09:50PM

I'm a protestant from East Donegal with an uncle in the Orange Order.

This attack on an Orange hall and Presbyterian church is shocking to me because there is absolutely no division between the two communities that I have noticed.

Demographically, East Donegal would be 50/50 in terms of Catholic/Protestant, there are lots of mixed marriages and both communities work together.

Also, an attack happened in Newtowncunningham also in East Donegal, 2 weeks ago. Im guessing it could be some thugs from a couple of miles away across the border trying to import their thuggery here. Hopefully it ends here...

John Doe1 · 03-10-2014 09:51PM

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

sub-tiny percentage of a rural local population in isolated moment of bigotry shocker

Great contribution, bravo

John Doe1 · 03-10-2014 09:54PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

I for one am appalled that an organisation such as the Orange Order, a bastion of equality, friendship, inclusion and reconciliation could come under attack in this manner.

The orange order is a very different beast in Donegal, it is more a social group celebrating their shared heritage. Take a look a Rossnowlagh orange parade for example.

NIMAN · 03-10-2014 09:56PM

Wouldn't be surprised if the culprit was from the North, or a blow-in from there now living in Donegal.

Donegal natives from both sides of the religious divide tend to get on rather well, and this sort of stuff would not be normal for true Donegalers.

Not overly religious myself, but have nothing but utter contempt for anyone who tries to burn down a church of any faith. Utter scum, and I hope they are caught and put away.

Young Blood · 03-10-2014 09:57PM

Cant say I wasnt happy when I heard the news.

Hate breeds hate.

The firemen should of saved themselves the water charges and let it burn to ground.

the fact that the irish government gave the orange order 2 million euro in funding sickens me.

John Doe1 · 03-10-2014 10:04PM

Young Blood wrote: »

Cant say I wasnt happy when I heard the news.

Hate breeds hate.

The firemen should of saved themselves the water charges and let it burn to ground.

the fact that the irish government gave the orange order 2 million euro in funding sickens me.

http://oceanfm.ie/2014/09/13/president-invited-to-rossnowlagh-orange-parade/

Young Blood · 03-10-2014 10:06PM

John Doe1 wrote: »

http://oceanfm.ie/2014/09/13/president-invited-to-rossnowlagh-orange-parade/

Who knows how many more Lenny Murphys and Johnny Adairs will go through the ranks of the Orange Order.

NIMAN · 03-10-2014 10:09PM

Young Blood wrote: »

Cant say I wasnt happy when I heard the news.

Hate breeds hate.

The firemen should of saved themselves the water charges and let it burn to ground.

It certainly seems to, you seem to have a lot of hate in you.

Firemen don't pay water charges, and it did burn to the ground.

Guy:Incognito · 03-10-2014 10:16PM

KungPao wrote: »

It looks like plain old anti-social scumbaggery rather an anything more sinister.
They wanted to burn something, and just chose this place.

It was the 2nd one in 3 weeks in Donegal was it not? If there was other arson attacks not related to the orange order aswell then maybe. If its just those two then that's a big coincidence.

Smiles35 · 03-10-2014 10:20PM

Young Blood wrote: »

Who knows how many more Lenny Murphys and Johnny Adairs will go through the ranks of the Orange Order.

Are you for real? They're Freemasons at the end of the day.

mickydoomsux · 03-10-2014 10:25PM

"Nordies in sectarian nonsense shocker"

A quagmire that should be ignored until it fixes itself and the people up there realize that all of their beliefs are truly laughable and we are all just animals with ridiculously short lifespans who really shouldn't be wasting them on such idiocy.

mikeym · 03-10-2014 10:29PM

Disgusting act. Im not a fan of the orange order but they are not harming anyone in Co.Donegal so why target the hall.

Sounds like uneducated teenagers did it.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 03-10-2014 10:30PM

Noblong wrote: »

Are you for real? They're Freemasons at the end of the day.

Think you need to do some reading two totally different organisations.
For example have a wee read up on where certain Masonic lodges are located

Young Blood · 03-10-2014 10:36PM

Free Masons mee eye. Free masons don't go around parading stiring up sectarian tensions.

DarkyHughes · 03-10-2014 10:49PM

Can't say I'm to upset to see a building that represents sectarianism being burnt to the ground.

Smiles35 · 03-10-2014 10:50PM

Young Blood wrote: »

Free Masons mee eye. Free masons don't go around parading stiring up sectarian tensions.

That's true. I'd blame this on them showing up in Scotland during the referendum. But, faternal organisions are useually gear'd to stop peeps going loco, not the other way around.

Shakespeare's Sister · 03-10-2014 11:00PM

Berserker wrote: »

First I have heard about this kind of attack in this country but I am not surprised to see it happening.

Why are you not shocked? It's hardly widespread down here.

Berserker wrote: »

Not really when you look at the reaction of people like Kermit above. He has no problem with it.

Ooh, a whole one person (yes I know there were more after him, but by the point you wrote the above post: one person).

What I think you're doing is pushing an "Irish people in general are bigoted towards protestant/unionist people" agenda, but you know you're wrong, fan of Ian Paisley. People here criticise hardline loyalism (as anyone would) but that doesn't have to have any relation whatosever with protestantism/normal rational unionists.

DarkyHughes · 03-10-2014 11:05PM

Shakespeare's Sister wrote: »

Why are you not shocked? It's hardly widespread down here.

Ooh, a whole one person (yes I know there were more after him, but by the point you wrote the above post: one person).

What I think you're doing is pushing an "Irish people in general are bigoted towards protestant/unionist people" agenda, but you know you're wrong, fan of Ian Paisley. People here criticise hardline loyalism (as anyone would) but that doesn't have to have any relation whatosever with protestantism/normal rational unionists.

They have them now?

Packrat · 03-10-2014 11:26PM

"Temple of Hate burnt".

I'm trying and failing to find a single solitary fcuk to give.

Shakespeare's Sister · 03-10-2014 11:27PM

DarkyHughes wrote: »

They have them now?

Of course.

Paramite Pie · 03-10-2014 11:49PM

Packrat wrote: »

"Temple of Hate burnt".

I'm trying and failing to find a single solitary fcuk to give.

I'm pretty sure the Orange Orders in the Republic are not Loyalists or even Unionists. I doubt there's much hate going on.

Young Blood wrote: »

Who knows how many more Lenny Murphys and Johnny Adairs will go through the ranks of the Orange Order.

In Donegal?

DarkyHughes · 03-10-2014 11:58PM

Shakespeare's Sister wrote: »

Of course.

Well some of them should get involved in politics.

Míshásta · 04-10-2014 12:51AM

Plenty of nasty bigotry being displayed on this thread - no wonder the Northern protestants don't want to join us down her.

Shakespeare's Sister · 04-10-2014 12:52AM

Míshásta wrote: »

Plenty of nasty bigotry being displayed on this thread - no wonder the Northern protestants don't want to join us down her.

Well that wasn't really the reason why they didn't want to join us. And to view us all as bigots is... oh yeh, bigotry.

on the river · 04-10-2014 12:42PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFl_evwML2M

Protestant church attacked in Donegal.

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