Protestant church attacked in Donegal.

Berserker · 03-10-2014 04:46PM #1

First I have heard about this kind of attack in this country but I am not surprised to see it happening. Shocking and disturbing. Sadly, I suspect that we will see more of these attacks in the years to come. (Easter 2016 in particular)

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Kermit.de.frog · 03-10-2014 04:47PM

At first i'm shocked. But then I learn it's an Orange Hall and suddenly I don't care.

alchemist33 · 03-10-2014 04:48PM

It was an Orange Hall rather than a church. Relations between the religions are pretty good in Donegal (many mixed marriages, my own included). I don't expect any problems between now and 2016.

VinLieger · 03-10-2014 04:48PM

Berserker wrote: »

First I have heard about this kind of attack in this country but I am not surprised to see it happening. Shocking and disturbing. Sadly, I suspect that we will see more of these attacks in the lead up to Easter 2016.

BBC

RTE

That's a pretty massive assumption to draw that sectarian violence will rise in the lead up to 2016, they don't actually need an excuse most of the time so I don't see how it would effect it

Sunnyisland · 03-10-2014 04:50PM

Did not know the orange order was a religion with its own church.

Berserker · 03-10-2014 04:50PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

At first i'm shocked. But then I learn it's an Orange Hall and suddenly I don't care.

alchemist33 wrote: »

It was an Orange Hall rather than a church. Relations between the religions are pretty good in Donegal (many mixed marriages, my own included). I don't expect any problems between now and 2016.

Read the article properly. They attempted to burn down a church as well but failed.

VinLieger wrote: »

That's a pretty massive assumption to draw that sectarian violence will rise in the lead up to 2016, they don't actually need an excuse most of the time so I don't see how it would effect it

Not really when you look at the reaction of people like Kermit above. He has no problem with it.

lazybones32 · 03-10-2014 04:50PM

I'd be more concerned about who has to pay the water bill for the firefighters.

I'm not going to pretend to be horrified about someone burning down an orange lodge.

Berserker · 03-10-2014 04:51PM

lazybones32 wrote: »

I'm not going to pretend to be horrified about someone burning down an orange lodge.

What about the Presbyterian church they tried to burn down?

Nodin · 03-10-2014 04:52PM

Berserker wrote: »

First I have heard about this kind of attack in this country but I am not surprised to see it happening. Shocking and disturbing. Sadly, I suspect that we will see more of these attacks in the years to come.

BBC

RTE

Why?

KungPao · 03-10-2014 04:53PM

It looks like plain old anti-social scumbaggery rather an anything more sinister.
They wanted to burn something, and just chose this place.

SEPT 23 1989 · 03-10-2014 04:55PM

the culprits should be garotted

on the river · 03-10-2014 04:56PM

Absolute disgrace. Nobody wants to return to sectarian violence.

Berserker · 03-10-2014 04:56PM

KungPao wrote: »

It looks like plain old anti-social scumbaggery rather an anything more sinister.
They wanted to burn something, and just chose this place.

You would like to think so but I have family in south Dublin and their church has been warned about such attacks by the Gardai of late too.

kneemos · 03-10-2014 04:57PM

Berserker wrote: »

First I have heard about this kind of attack in this country but I am not surprised to see it happening. Shocking and disturbing. Sadly, I suspect that we will see more of these attacks in the years to come. (Easter 2016 in particular)

BBC

RTE

Not necessarily sectarian.Might be some crazy loon
or some such.

Nodin · 03-10-2014 04:59PM

Berserker wrote: »

You would like to think so but I have family in south Dublin and their church has been warned about such attacks by the Gardai of late too.

Why are you linking some sectarian act in Donegal to the anniversary of the rising? particularily given that its the 3rd of October?

Zebra3 · 03-10-2014 05:02PM

Can a mod edit the misleading thread title?

Berserker · 03-10-2014 05:05PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Can a mod edit the misleading thread title?

It's not misleading. A Protestant church was attacked in Donegal. Read the article I posted. Why are you people ignoring that fact? Not surprised by the head in the sand response I am getting from most people to be honest.

Nodin · 03-10-2014 05:06PM

Berserker wrote: »

It's not misleading. A Protestant church was attacked in Donegal. Read the article I posted.

How about you explain yourself?

Why are you linking some sectarian act in Donegal to the anniversary of the rising? particularily given that its the 3rd of October?

Knasher · 03-10-2014 05:08PM

Seems pretty sectarian to me if they first burnt down a orange order place, and then tried to burn a protestant church. I hope they catch whomever is behind it.

Banjo String · 03-10-2014 05:11PM

Personally I fear for all the inevitable horrors that will incur with the imminent arrival of Halloween, 2017.

There's Gonna be major hassle in the Amish community in Australia and their Belgian neighbours.

KungPao · 03-10-2014 05:11PM

Berserker wrote: »

First I have heard about this kind of attack in this country but I am not surprised to see it happening. Shocking and disturbing. Sadly, I suspect that we will see more of these attacks in the years to come. (Easter 2016 in particular)

BBC

RTE

Why?

suicide_circus · 03-10-2014 05:12PM

I for one am appalled that an organisation such as the Orange Order, a bastion of equality, friendship, inclusion and reconciliation could come under attack in this manner.

karma_ · 03-10-2014 05:15PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

the culprits should be garotted

Really though? That's harsh for any crime.

Manach · 03-10-2014 05:16PM

I hope they catch those responsible. Given the general upswing of vandalism on church/community property this is more likely a sign of the current times rather than a repeat of the troubles.

KungPao · 03-10-2014 05:16PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

I for one am appalled that an organisation such as the Orange Order, a bastion of equality, friendship, inclusion and reconciliation could come under attack in this manner.

Me too.

They are nothing like the KKK and only want everyone to love each other as equals.

Benny_Cake · 03-10-2014 05:22PM

It's undoubtedly an act of sectarian thuggery and I hope they catch those responsible. It's a stretch to suggest that this is likely to increase in the lead up to 2016 though. The type of person who does this probably doesn't need an anniversary to motivate them.

lazybones32 · 03-10-2014 05:30PM

Berserker wrote: »

What about the Presbyterian church they tried to burn down?

"tried" being the operative word. Any sort of thinking person would at least bring an accelerator (petrol, etc.) if arson was the aim, rather than just trying to set alight a few sheets of paper.

This doesn't seem as big as the headlines spin it.

caustic 1 · 03-10-2014 05:50PM

2016 my eye. It's vandals, young thugs who know nothing about nothing except for the tripe that's spouted at home and between themselves, result, "let's burn the prods out of it". Feck all to do with religion rather more to do with stupidity and ignorance. They fell ten feet tall today but are only little runts trying to rise a ruckus.

Davarus Walrus · 03-10-2014 06:01PM

Eh, what has this to do with Protestantism? The Orange Order is a loyalist organisation. Very different things. Ireland is a very enjoyable place to grow up and live in as an Anglican (ignoring the modern Atheist sneering seen online). Rumours abound that they've been seen as President, winning All Ireland's and shopping in Supervalu.

Madam · 03-10-2014 06:01PM

I'm really surprised by this, most folk in Donegal(especially around Convoy and Raphoe)get along fine with each other no matter their religion. Catholics have been known to use the Orange halls as community centres in certain places, even to the point of using each other's instruments for pipe band competitions. Probably this was perpetrated by some eejit(s) from the six counties out to cause tensions in the community.

wendell borton · 03-10-2014 06:03PM

Made me quite mad reading the title to think an idiot would do something like, but then I see its actually an orange hall the anger quickly evaporated.

Protestant church attacked in Donegal.

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