Be honest. Is "mail order bride" one of your reactions?

DellyBelly · 28-09-2014 12:11PM

Shakespeare's Sister wrote: »

Yeh you sound really... "Nice". Making sure to pick up "pussy" every night out is the epitome of nice.

I am nice. Just trying to show that nice guys dont always finish last. It's possible to be nice and still get some action on a night out.

lufties · 28-09-2014 12:34PM

Foxmint wrote: »

I'm a nice guy, often the nicest in the room by far, and I get all the women I want.
Far too many of them at times, if truth be told.
Some of the slimely pick up book mantra's spouted as gospel here on boards are laughable.

With regard to attraction and dating, nice guys are guys who are afraid to speak their mind for fear of rejection, the are pushovers who are insincere, bland, unconfident,, avoid conflict and have stored up anger. I should know seen as I was one.

I'm now a genuine nice guy as I have got my **** together somewhat and learned a thing or two. I still accept that I'm human and we are not perfect.

Wibbs · 28-09-2014 12:36PM

Foxmint wrote: »

I'm also thinking, fair fcks to them.

Ditto. So long as both are happy and no one is getting hurt I really don't see the issue. I wouldn't be into that sorta thing myself and would have concerns for both of them down the line of course(and any kids they might beget), but again it wouldn't be any of my biz.

bodice ripper · 28-09-2014 12:36PM

Foxmint wrote: »

I'm also thinking, fair fcks to them.

oh yes, good luck to them and their infinite capacity for self delusion.

Wibbs · 28-09-2014 12:45PM

bodice ripper wrote: »

oh yes, good luck to them and their infinite capacity for self delusion.

To some degree we all "self delude" in relationships. In any event what's the issue? I'm not them or in their relationship so why would it worry me?

Outside of the whole "mail order" arrangements, I have encountered a bit of the snarkiness in age gap relationships I've had(10-15 year gaps, so nothing too mad). Men who made comments were coming from jealously as far as I was concerned. The women who made comments were the ones around my age who were usually single and as they aged added to their long list of criteria for what they wanted, nay demanded in a man. Yea real clever love, that's like sticking a Ferrari price tag on a Skoda. Might work at 20, ain't gonna fly at 40. And they knew it, hence the snarkiness at what they saw as "unfair competition" from younger women.

bodice ripper · 28-09-2014 12:50PM

Wibbs wrote: »

To some degree we all "self delude" in relationships. In any event what's the issue? I'm not them or in their relationship so why would it worry me?

Outside of the whole "mail order" arrangements, I have encountered a bit of the snarkiness in age gap relationships I've had(10-15 year gaps, so nothing too mad). Men who made comments were coming from jealously as far as I was concerned. The women who made comments were the ones around my age who were usually single and as they aged added to their long list of criteria for what they wanted, nay demanded in a man. Yea real clever love, that's like sticking a Ferrari price tag on a Skoda. Might work at 20, ain't gonna fly at 40. And they knew it, hence the snarkiness at what they saw as "unfair competition" from younger women.

I believe adults should be allowed to do as they please. But just don't expect me to play along with the idea that it is about love.

TheBeardedLady · 28-09-2014 12:50PM

Wibbs wrote: »

To some degree we all "self delude" in relationships. In any event what's the issue? I'm not them or in their relationship so why would it worry me?

Outside of the whole "mail order" arrangements, I have encountered a bit of the snarkiness in age gap relationships I've had(10-15 year gaps, so nothing too mad). Men who made comments were coming from jealously as far as I was concerned. The women who made comments were the ones around my age who were usually single and as they aged added to their long list of criteria for what they wanted, nay demanded in a man. Yea real clever love, that's like sticking a Ferrari price tag on a Skoda. Might work at 20, ain't gonna fly at 40. And they knew it, hence the snarkiness at what they saw as "unfair competition" from younger women.

Very catty, Wibbs. Very catty indeed.

Foxmint · 28-09-2014 01:01PM

bodice ripper wrote: »

oh yes, good luck to them and their infinite capacity for self delusion.

What self delusion ? They've got a younger, better looking, more loyal and supporting wife, who they can raise a good family with. So fair fcks to them I say.

bodice ripper · 28-09-2014 01:01PM

TheBeardedLady wrote: »

Very catty, Wibbs. Very catty indeed.

Word. Can't have an opinion on what seems to be an exploitative arrangement without it being about your age and desirability as a woman. Why not go the whole hog and say "your pussy is all dried up and no one wants it."

Shakespeare's Sister · 28-09-2014 01:02PM

Saying "smash pussy" sounds really bad-ass and not like something a guy like this would say at all.

bodice ripper · 28-09-2014 01:02PM

Foxmint wrote: »

What self delusion ? They've got a younger, better looking, more loyal and supporting wife, who they can raise a good family with. So fair fcks to them I say.

amazing what money can buy.

Foxmint · 28-09-2014 01:06PM

bodice ripper wrote: »

amazing what money can buy.

And far more quality for a lot less money at that, in complete contrast to saturday night's worn out gold diggers.

bodice ripper · 28-09-2014 01:10PM

Foxmint wrote: »

And far more quality for a lot less money at that, in complete contrast to saturday night's worn out gold diggers.

Healthy. If you had a daughter, is this the way you would want anyone to see her? When she was born, do you think you would hold her in your arms and think, "maybe one day, she can find a man 20+ years her senoir who doesn't speak the language, so she can represent good value for money."

Shakespeare's Sister · 28-09-2014 01:10PM

Not sure what's incorrect/out of line about the self delusion thing? It is obviously one element of a situation involving a man in his 60s with a lot of money and a woman 40 years younger whom he "buys" to be his wife. Personally I don't see the harm because the woman isn't being forced and it affects nobody else, but it is obviously self deluding to view this as a recipe for a happy marriage that won't encounter problems down the line, and that she might not just fleece him and be gone by 30 (if even).

But I.. guess... any auld opportunity to go on about Irish women being unattractive and jealous.

It's bad-ass and edgy to refer to a human being in terms of "quality" also - shur may as well view them as products, they're only mere Asian women.

Demonique · 28-09-2014 01:12PM

Being from a poorer country doesn't necessarily mean someone is from a poor family themselves.

Most of the people from outside the EU (which includes people from Africa and Asia as well as Americans and Aussies) who are studying at Irish universities would be from well-off families as it costs a lot more for them to study here than it does for a student from the EU.

Foxmint · 28-09-2014 01:16PM

bodice ripper wrote: »

Healthy. If you had a daughter, is this the way you would want anyone to see her? When she was born, do you think you would hold her in your arms and think, "maybe one day, she can find a man 20+ years her senoir who doesn't speak the language, so she can represent good value for money."

It's her adult choice how she betters her life, not yours, and none of your business.

bodice ripper · 28-09-2014 01:18PM

Foxmint wrote: »

It's her adult choice how she betters her life, not yours, and none of your business.

It is my buisness, if it is happening amonsgt my friends and family. And I would think less of the guy, not so much the girl.

Foxmint · 28-09-2014 01:19PM

bodice ripper wrote: »

It is my buisness, if it is happening amonsgt my friends and family. And I would think less of the guy, not so much the girl.

Actually it is none of your business, you cannot dictate to other adults how they choose to live their lives. You'll have to get over your prudishness and get on with your own life. Newsflash - no one cares what jealous prudes or begruders think, other than themsleves.

suicide_circus · 28-09-2014 01:20PM

bodice ripper wrote: »

It is my buisness, if it is happening amonsgt my friends and family. And I would think less of the guy, not so much the girl.

Ah yeah, evil men

Shakespeare's Sister · 28-09-2014 01:22PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Ah yeah, evil men

That's not what she said whatsoever but tell yourself it is if you enjoy the idea. "A man" isn't = men.

Shakespeare's Sister · 28-09-2014 01:23PM

Foxmint wrote: »

You'll have to get over your prudishness and get on with your own life. Newsflash - no one cares what jelous prudes or begruders think, other than themsleves.

Where's the prudishness?
And it's stupid enough to use "jealous" and "begrudger" incorrectly and with no substantive cause, let alone spell them incorrectly.

Foxmint · 28-09-2014 01:24PM

Shakespeare's Sister wrote: »

Where's the prudishness?
And it's stupid enough to use "jealous" and "begrudger" incorrectly and with no substantive cause, let alone spell them incorrectly.

Reduced to typo's now ? lol, Enough said.

suicide_circus · 28-09-2014 01:24PM

Shakespeare's Sister wrote: »

That's not what she said whatsoever but tell yourself it is if you enjoy the idea. "A man" isn't = men.

But why is they guy the one she thinks less of?

Shakespeare's Sister · 28-09-2014 01:25PM

Foxmint wrote: »

And far more quality for a lot less money at that, in complete contrast to saturday night's worn out gold diggers.

And an earlier post from you saying "I am a nice guy" - but actually, surprise surprise, you're not! I'm utterly amazed! :pac:

bodice ripper · 28-09-2014 01:25PM

Foxmint wrote: »

Actually it is none of your business, you cannot dictate to other adults how they choose to live their lives. You'll have to get over your prudishness and get on with your own life. Newsflash - no one cares what jealous prudes or begruders think, other than themsleves.

I didn't dictate **** to anyone, in fact I explicitly said that adults should do as they please.

Shakespeare's Sister · 28-09-2014 01:26PM

Foxmint wrote: »

Reduced to typo's now ? lol, Enough said.

Enough said about what?

People who go on about jealousy and begrudgery non stop don't put thought into things, which is bad enough - but they could at least spell the words. Where's the prudishness?

bodice ripper · 28-09-2014 01:27PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

But why is they guy the one she thinks less of?

Because I hold the far older person more responible, and because I can imagine there exists situations bad enough that you would do whatever to get out of them.

Foxmint · 28-09-2014 01:28PM

Shakespeare's Sister wrote: »

And an earlier post from you saying "I am a nice guy" - but actually, surprise surprise, you're not! I'm utterly amazed! :pac:

I see no reason to be nice to begrudgers and the jealous, it's their problem and envy, not mine

bodice ripper · 28-09-2014 01:29PM

Foxmint wrote: »

I see no reason to be nice to begrudgers and the jealous, it's their problem and envy, not mine

why am I envious? I can get a hooker down the road here in two minutes.

Foxmint · 28-09-2014 01:30PM

bodice ripper wrote: »

why am I envious? I can get a hooker down the road here in two minutes.

That might fit you better than whining about people with better, younger, wives than you have.

Be honest. Is "mail order bride" one of your reactions?

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