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Be honest. Is "mail order bride" one of your reactions?

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For at least the tenth time, I had an Irish cunt last night turn from friendly into a "You're being taken for a ride" or "can you not find an Irish girl?" when I said my girlfriend was Vietnamese.

I was by myself playing pool in the bar after a really tough week at work and I had just given him some advice about travelling and stuff. For about ten minutes, I listened to his "I don't agree with that, go home and find a proper girl" speech and then I just flipped, called him out as a racist wanker and then he tried to start a fight. Thankfully, his older friend got involved and made him leave.

My brother had the same with his eastern European wife. My friends back home said it all about him.

The Irish ambassador to Vietnam (I hope she sees this) on her last night six months ago or a year ago was drunk, came onto me and when I told her "I'm with my girlfriend" who was standing next to me, said "Is she with you for your money?". This woman had been here for three years and that was her opinion.

In Galway a few years ago, one of the lads took home his Japanese girlfriend and everyone had a field day talking about it.

One of my friends came to Hanoi a few months ago and told me about "a terrible rumor that I had married an Asian".

And then there's been all the Irish passing through Hanoi who had to give their backward opinion.

No other nationality has ever said a word.. It's literally always the Irish. And then people wonder why I don't go to Irish bars or visit home.

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DellyBelly

Shakespeare's Sister wrote: »

Yeh you sound really... "Nice". Making sure to pick up "pussy" every night out is the epitome of nice.

I am nice. Just trying to show that nice guys dont always finish last. It's possible to be nice and still get some action on a night out.

lufties

Foxmint wrote: »

I'm a nice guy, often the nicest in the room by far, and I get all the women I want.
Far too many of them at times, if truth be told.
Some of the slimely pick up book mantra's spouted as gospel here on boards are laughable.

With regard to attraction and dating, nice guys are guys who are afraid to speak their mind for fear of rejection, the are pushovers who are insincere, bland, unconfident,, avoid conflict and have stored up anger. I should know seen as I was one.

I'm now a genuine nice guy as I have got my **** together somewhat and learned a thing or two. I still accept that I'm human and we are not perfect.

Wibbs

Foxmint wrote: »

I'm also thinking, fair fcks to them.

Ditto. So long as both are happy and no one is getting hurt I really don't see the issue. I wouldn't be into that sorta thing myself and would have concerns for both of them down the line of course(and any kids they might beget), but again it wouldn't be any of my biz.

bodice ripper

Foxmint wrote: »

I'm also thinking, fair fcks to them.

oh yes, good luck to them and their infinite capacity for self delusion.

Wibbs

bodice ripper wrote: »

oh yes, good luck to them and their infinite capacity for self delusion.

To some degree we all "self delude" in relationships. In any event what's the issue? I'm not them or in their relationship so why would it worry me?

Outside of the whole "mail order" arrangements, I have encountered a bit of the snarkiness in age gap relationships I've had(10-15 year gaps, so nothing too mad). Men who made comments were coming from jealously as far as I was concerned. The women who made comments were the ones around my age who were usually single and as they aged added to their long list of criteria for what they wanted, nay demanded in a man. Yea real clever love, that's like sticking a Ferrari price tag on a Skoda. Might work at 20, ain't gonna fly at 40. And they knew it, hence the snarkiness at what they saw as "unfair competition" from younger women.

bodice ripper

Wibbs wrote: »

To some degree we all "self delude" in relationships. In any event what's the issue? I'm not them or in their relationship so why would it worry me?

Outside of the whole "mail order" arrangements, I have encountered a bit of the snarkiness in age gap relationships I've had(10-15 year gaps, so nothing too mad). Men who made comments were coming from jealously as far as I was concerned. The women who made comments were the ones around my age who were usually single and as they aged added to their long list of criteria for what they wanted, nay demanded in a man. Yea real clever love, that's like sticking a Ferrari price tag on a Skoda. Might work at 20, ain't gonna fly at 40. And they knew it, hence the snarkiness at what they saw as "unfair competition" from younger women.

I believe adults should be allowed to do as they please. But just don't expect me to play along with the idea that it is about love.

TheBeardedLady

Wibbs wrote: »

To some degree we all "self delude" in relationships. In any event what's the issue? I'm not them or in their relationship so why would it worry me?

Outside of the whole "mail order" arrangements, I have encountered a bit of the snarkiness in age gap relationships I've had(10-15 year gaps, so nothing too mad). Men who made comments were coming from jealously as far as I was concerned. The women who made comments were the ones around my age who were usually single and as they aged added to their long list of criteria for what they wanted, nay demanded in a man. Yea real clever love, that's like sticking a Ferrari price tag on a Skoda. Might work at 20, ain't gonna fly at 40. And they knew it, hence the snarkiness at what they saw as "unfair competition" from younger women.

Very catty, Wibbs. Very catty indeed.

Foxmint

bodice ripper wrote: »

oh yes, good luck to them and their infinite capacity for self delusion.

What self delusion ? They've got a younger, better looking, more loyal and supporting wife, who they can raise a good family with. So fair fcks to them I say.

bodice ripper

TheBeardedLady wrote: »

Very catty, Wibbs. Very catty indeed.

Word. Can't have an opinion on what seems to be an exploitative arrangement without it being about your age and desirability as a woman. Why not go the whole hog and say "your pussy is all dried up and no one wants it."

Shakespeare's Sister

Saying "smash pussy" sounds really bad-ass and not like something a guy like this would say at all.

bodice ripper

Foxmint wrote: »

What self delusion ? They've got a younger, better looking, more loyal and supporting wife, who they can raise a good family with. So fair fcks to them I say.

amazing what money can buy.

Foxmint

bodice ripper wrote: »

amazing what money can buy.

And far more quality for a lot less money at that, in complete contrast to saturday night's worn out gold diggers.

bodice ripper

Foxmint wrote: »

And far more quality for a lot less money at that, in complete contrast to saturday night's worn out gold diggers.

Healthy. If you had a daughter, is this the way you would want anyone to see her? When she was born, do you think you would hold her in your arms and think, "maybe one day, she can find a man 20+ years her senoir who doesn't speak the language, so she can represent good value for money."

Shakespeare's Sister

Not sure what's incorrect/out of line about the self delusion thing? It is obviously one element of a situation involving a man in his 60s with a lot of money and a woman 40 years younger whom he "buys" to be his wife. Personally I don't see the harm because the woman isn't being forced and it affects nobody else, but it is obviously self deluding to view this as a recipe for a happy marriage that won't encounter problems down the line, and that she might not just fleece him and be gone by 30 (if even).

But I.. guess... any auld opportunity to go on about Irish women being unattractive and jealous.

It's bad-ass and edgy to refer to a human being in terms of "quality" also - shur may as well view them as products, they're only mere Asian women.

Demonique

Being from a poorer country doesn't necessarily mean someone is from a poor family themselves.

Most of the people from outside the EU (which includes people from Africa and Asia as well as Americans and Aussies) who are studying at Irish universities would be from well-off families as it costs a lot more for them to study here than it does for a student from the EU.

Foxmint

bodice ripper wrote: »

Healthy. If you had a daughter, is this the way you would want anyone to see her? When she was born, do you think you would hold her in your arms and think, "maybe one day, she can find a man 20+ years her senoir who doesn't speak the language, so she can represent good value for money."

It's her adult choice how she betters her life, not yours, and none of your business.

bodice ripper

Foxmint wrote: »

It's her adult choice how she betters her life, not yours, and none of your business.

It is my buisness, if it is happening amonsgt my friends and family. And I would think less of the guy, not so much the girl.

Foxmint

bodice ripper wrote: »

It is my buisness, if it is happening amonsgt my friends and family. And I would think less of the guy, not so much the girl.

Actually it is none of your business, you cannot dictate to other adults how they choose to live their lives. You'll have to get over your prudishness and get on with your own life. Newsflash - no one cares what jealous prudes or begruders think, other than themsleves.

suicide_circus

bodice ripper wrote: »

It is my buisness, if it is happening amonsgt my friends and family. And I would think less of the guy, not so much the girl.

Ah yeah, evil men

Shakespeare's Sister

suicide_circus wrote: »

Ah yeah, evil men

That's not what she said whatsoever but tell yourself it is if you enjoy the idea. "A man" isn't = men.

Shakespeare's Sister

Foxmint wrote: »

You'll have to get over your prudishness and get on with your own life. Newsflash - no one cares what jelous prudes or begruders think, other than themsleves.

Where's the prudishness?
And it's stupid enough to use "jealous" and "begrudger" incorrectly and with no substantive cause, let alone spell them incorrectly.

Foxmint

Shakespeare's Sister wrote: »

Where's the prudishness?
And it's stupid enough to use "jealous" and "begrudger" incorrectly and with no substantive cause, let alone spell them incorrectly.

Reduced to typo's now ? lol, Enough said.

suicide_circus

Shakespeare's Sister wrote: »

That's not what she said whatsoever but tell yourself it is if you enjoy the idea. "A man" isn't = men.

But why is they guy the one she thinks less of?

Shakespeare's Sister

Foxmint wrote: »

And far more quality for a lot less money at that, in complete contrast to saturday night's worn out gold diggers.

And an earlier post from you saying "I am a nice guy" - but actually, surprise surprise, you're not! I'm utterly amazed! :pac:

bodice ripper

Foxmint wrote: »

Actually it is none of your business, you cannot dictate to other adults how they choose to live their lives. You'll have to get over your prudishness and get on with your own life. Newsflash - no one cares what jealous prudes or begruders think, other than themsleves.

I didn't dictate **** to anyone, in fact I explicitly said that adults should do as they please.

Shakespeare's Sister

Foxmint wrote: »

Reduced to typo's now ? lol, Enough said.

Enough said about what?

People who go on about jealousy and begrudgery non stop don't put thought into things, which is bad enough - but they could at least spell the words. Where's the prudishness?

bodice ripper

suicide_circus wrote: »

But why is they guy the one she thinks less of?

Because I hold the far older person more responible, and because I can imagine there exists situations bad enough that you would do whatever to get out of them.

Foxmint

Shakespeare's Sister wrote: »

And an earlier post from you saying "I am a nice guy" - but actually, surprise surprise, you're not! I'm utterly amazed! :pac:

I see no reason to be nice to begrudgers and the jealous, it's their problem and envy, not mine

bodice ripper

Foxmint wrote: »

I see no reason to be nice to begrudgers and the jealous, it's their problem and envy, not mine

why am I envious? I can get a hooker down the road here in two minutes.

Foxmint

bodice ripper wrote: »

why am I envious? I can get a hooker down the road here in two minutes.

That might fit you better than whining about people with better, younger, wives than you have.