'Keto' snacks.. as near to zero carbs as possible!

ford2600 · 23-09-2014 02:55PM

Bruno26 wrote: »

How do you know this? What are you basing it on?

I don't think he was talking about food! If you reread it!

Bruno26 · 23-09-2014 03:00PM

ford2600 wrote: »

I don't think he was talking about food! If you reread it!

Oh I see now- thanks!

Bruno26 · 23-09-2014 03:05PM

cletus van damme wrote: »

It never ceases to amuse me how fitness folk seem to be so qualified in what our ancestors ate.
The utter bollocks I read on the net of the type "our ancestors drank camel piss for protein...you should too and reject modern thinking"

Fcuk off the lot of you - unless you are an archaeologist.

How people ate yonks ago is not relevant unless you know how they lived and what condition they were in.
This idea that all prehistoric men were conan the barbarian clones types fighting wholly mammoths with their bare hands is claptrap.

a modern example would be vegans. I know 2 vegans of 20+ years devotion , they survive handy enough and are probably healthy enough but their physical condition is not something to be aspired too.
But historically somebody may look at them and say - they survived on veg. "big deal" says me "did you see the state of them?"

As for the piece in bold - I really doubt it, methinks they be eating fruit or veg which contain carbs. The inuit diet is probably as close to a fat laden diet as you get and they eat berries and roots etc...

You should read a few books instead of random websites!
We do know how people ate and lived years ago.

I don't know why people get so worked up . Eat real food- eliminate processed food- limit consumption of sugar. Who cares if people put a label on it.

Hanley · 23-09-2014 03:12PM

ford2600 wrote: »

I don't think he was talking about food! If you reread it!

Nah, I've people who pay me money to explain things to them waiting.

cletus van damme · 23-09-2014 03:36PM

Bruno26 wrote: »

The brain works as well if not better when fuelled primarily by fat.

Any chance you'd explain why seeking ketosis is bad?

I recall the bbc documentary where the two twins eat the heavy carb and heavy fat diets.
Carb boy was much more competant at using his brain for quick thinking.
quick thinking keeps you alive - and richer if you read deeply into their "play the stock market" test.
the name of the program escapes me at the min

plus carb boy cycled up the hill a lot faster.

Bruno26 wrote: »

You should read a few books instead of random websites!
We do know how people ate and lived years ago.

the websites I read are no more random than the books you read.
I read loads of books - admittedly not exclusively on food.

Bruno26 wrote: »

I don't know why people get so worked up . Eat real food- eliminate processed food- limit consumption of sugar. Who cares if people put a label on it.

Everybody agrees on that !
but when you bail in preaching a non carb diet I think needs a counter balance . By all means knock yourself out but I don't want people (esp people new to this ) reading threads like this and thinking your approach is gospel. Without counterargument it would present itself as such.

generic2012 · 23-09-2014 03:37PM

Dr Nic wrote: »

And what was the average lifespan back then?
This kind of stuff is insane... Ok for a couple of days I suppose but after that... Bananas

No. Bananas are high in sugar.

Lunaarli · 23-09-2014 03:40PM

Would like to keep this on topic!!!!

.ak · 23-09-2014 03:54PM

MaceFace wrote: »

The first half of this post is just wrong! You do not need carbs in your diet.
Using fat as an energy source is not a trick, it is how humans functioned for long periods for millennia.

I have done strict keto at a deficit, unbroken for 3 months with the only side effect being constipation due to lack of fibre. Supplementing with fibre and a multi vitamin and increased sodium intake eliminated all side affects and my lifts increased and cardio sessions as intense as ever.

Is a lifestyle choice but to be clear keto should mean high fat and moderate protein and not just high protein.

Humans didn't eat plants, fruit, and veg? All with high sources of carbs?

Bruno26 · 23-09-2014 04:16PM

Hanley wrote: »

Nah, I've people who pay me money to explain things to them waiting.

Fair play. However I can only presume you are unable to explain why.

generic2012 · 23-09-2014 04:23PM

Bruno26 wrote: »

Fair play. However I can only presume you are unable to explain why.

What does that even mean?

Bruno26 · 23-09-2014 04:51PM

cletus van damme wrote: »

I recall the bbc documentary where the two twins eat the heavy carb and heavy fat diets.
Carb boy was much more competant at using his brain for quick thinking.
quick thinking keeps you alive - and richer if you read deeply into their "play the stock market" test.
the name of the program escapes me at the min

plus carb boy cycled up the hill a lot faster.

the websites I read are no more random than the books you read.
I read loads of books - admittedly not exclusively on food.

Everybody agrees on that !
but when you bail in preaching a non carb diet I think needs a counter balance . By all means knock yourself out but I don't want people (esp people new to this ) reading threads like this and thinking your approach is gospel. Without counterargument it would present itself as such.

That programme was very poor. It's been debunked many times.
The only one preaching here is yourself.

generic2012 · 23-09-2014 05:23PM

Bruno26 wrote: »

That programme was very poor. It's been debunked many times.
The only one preaching here is yourself.

OP said to keep it on-topic Bruno, stop dragging down the conversation. Please just ignore all posts that irritate you and answer the original post. It's very frustrating to see you blatantly ignore the OP.

The Hill Billy · 23-09-2014 05:55PM

And the he/she has been carded for back-seat modding.
Cut out the sniping & help the OP.
If you cannot all have a civil discussion - I will dish out bans & lock the thread.

tHB

ford2600 · 23-09-2014 06:33PM

The Hill Billy wrote: »

And the he/she has been carded for back-seat modding.
Cut out the sniping & help the OP.
If you cannot all have a civil discussion - I will dish out bans & lock the thread.

tHB

http://dietketo.com/keto-food/fat-bombs/

Op I've never tried these but they might suit.

I have too much fruit in my diet for ketosis and don't see much point to it anyhow.

If your just low carb this is nice; melt dark chocolate lidl/aldi do 80/83% in a bowl (microwave works) place home roasted hazelnuts into chocolate. Put in fridge to set.shake cinnamon on top and enjoy

generic2012 · 23-09-2014 06:36PM

ford2600 wrote: »

If your just low carb this is nice; melt dark chocolate lidl/aldi do 80/83% in a bowl (microwave works) place home roasted hazelnuts into chocolate. Put in fridge to set.shake cinnamon on top and enjoy

That actually sounds lovely

ford2600 · 23-09-2014 06:40PM

generic2012 wrote: »

That actually sounds lovely

It's delicious. My carb heavy brother thought it up!

Bruno26 · 23-09-2014 06:50PM

Eggs, , some types of cheese, macadamia nuts, dark choc, boiled ham, avocado and almond butter, Greek yogurt and cinnamon, homemade smoothie (coffee, ice, almond butter, coconut cream, milk)

Mickery · 23-09-2014 07:13PM

Eggs scrambled with chilli flakes and coconut or olive oil, add in chopped rashers and cheddar cheese (feta is nice too).

Flavour with black pepper, salt and spices.

Tesco do a delicious chopped pork belly, spices and garlic mix if you want to try that instead of rashers. Can't think of the name of it

Mmmm I'm starving.

generic2012 · 23-09-2014 07:35PM

Jar of peanut butter and a spoon.

Remmy · 23-09-2014 08:34PM

Beef Jerky is a good suggestion. Anyone ever try Biltong? Keep seeing it on different food blogs but it isn't to easy to find in Ireland.

Wood · 24-09-2014 12:34PM

Remmy wrote: »

Beef Jerky is a good suggestion. Anyone ever try Biltong? Keep seeing it on different food blogs but it isn't to easy to find in Ireland.

BOOM!

http://southafricanfood.ie/store/department/30/Biltong-%26-Boerewors/

http://www.haynestownmeats.ie/irish-biltong/

http://www.jaqalsandwolf.ie/

http://www.unclebok.com/

http://www.jerky-house.com/Ireland/biltong-tasting-packs.htm

ford2600 · 24-09-2014 01:33PM

Remmy wrote: »

Beef Jerky is a good suggestion. Anyone ever try Biltong? Keep seeing it on different food blogs but it isn't to easy to find in Ireland.

I've had some nice beef jerky and biltong but given it's very high protein and low fat it probably wouldn't quality as keto. Great snack though

I've heard of lads eating just egg yokes and discarding the whites to keep protein low. All a bit too far for me

link_2007 · 24-09-2014 01:51PM

ford2600 wrote: »

I've had some nice beef jerky and biltong but given it's very high protein and low fat it probably wouldn't quality as keto. Great snack though

I've heard of lads eating just egg yokes and discarding the whites to keep protein low. All a bit too far for me

Isn't 40-50% of the protein in the yolk?

Mellor · 24-09-2014 02:02PM

link_2007 wrote: »

Isn't 40-50% of the protein in the yolk?

Yeah, but all of the fat is there too.

It's silly. Just because a keto diet aims for 50%+ in fats, doesn't mean every snack needs to hit the same breakdown.

Remmy · 24-09-2014 06:59PM

Wood wrote: »

BOOM!

http://southafricanfood.ie/store/department/30/Biltong-%26-Boerewors/

http://www.haynestownmeats.ie/irish-biltong/

http://www.jaqalsandwolf.ie/

http://www.unclebok.com/

http://www.jerky-house.com/Ireland/biltong-tasting-packs.htm

Feckin legend. No longer will I stalk bakkies botha's twitter in envy of his biltong supplies

Blacktie. · 27-09-2014 11:47AM

ford2600 wrote:

Is it not easier to get fibre from veg and fruit.

Yes but this would quickly take you out of ketosis. More so the fruit than the veg

'Keto' snacks.. as near to zero carbs as possible!

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