WWE Network Thread

gerrybbadd · 18-09-2014 03:10PM

Its for reasons above that i'm thankful that the Wrestling With Shadows documentary exists. WWE will always try to re-write history to suit themselves, and frankly, I don't think anybody can blame Bret for not wanting to drop the title to Shawn after his comments about not returning the favour. Losing in Canada wasn't the real issue for Bret anyhow. It was the way Shawn had disrespected him and his family continually that led to all of this.

I always wondered, what power has Shawn over Vince to have gotten away with all he did? We've all heard the rumors, perhaps there's an inkling of truth in there someplace.

The Ayatolla · 18-09-2014 04:33PM

Who wrote the above piece? Meltzer?

rovert · 18-09-2014 04:36PM

The Ayatolla wrote: »

Who wrote the above piece? Meltzer?

Yep.

The Ayatolla · 18-09-2014 04:40PM

The only piece I wasn't aware of was the 3 week contract. Makes sense now.

Rjd2 · 18-09-2014 07:24PM

Shawn comes across as such an arse more and more I read about him.

Monokne · 19-09-2014 09:10AM

Hart of War was horrendous. The whole Monday Night War has been a huge letdown. As irritating as it is that they rewrite history to paint themselves as the poor, disadvantaged underdogs fighting evil Billionaire Ted, the bigger frustration is that every episode has been WWF themed bar the NWO one. So apparently WCW had one good idea and that was it. I dreamt the success of Goldberg, DDP's rise to prominence, the cruiserweight division, etc, etc.

The Ayatolla · 19-09-2014 10:02AM

Monokne wrote: »

So apparently WCW had one good idea and that was it. I dreamt the success of Goldberg, DDP's rise to prominence, the cruiserweight division, etc, etc.

How many episodes are in the series?

I imagine they have enough material to go with those ideas and likely will in the future.

Monokne · 19-09-2014 10:06AM

There will be 20.

Of the first 7, 1 is an introductory, 1 is about the nwo, and the other 5 are on WWE.

Angron · 19-09-2014 10:08AM

History is written by the victors or some such.

Beefy78 · 19-09-2014 10:10AM

"There was an outstanding lawsuit and it had been established in one case (when Flair used the WCW belt on WWF television in 1991) and there was a legal action going on over a second case (Madusa throwing the WWF women’s belt in a garbage can) to where it was clear a title belt was the company’s intellectual property. There was no possible way at that point in time, that such a scenario could happen. He had a valid WWF contract and the belt was established in court cases as the intellectual property of the promotion, not the temporary property of the champion"

It's an interesting piece but you'd have the be very naive to believe the above. If WCW could have had anyway to get the WWF Title onto Nitro to be disrespected they'd have done it and dealt with any consequences later.

The Ayatolla · 19-09-2014 10:11AM

Beefy78 wrote: »

"There was an outstanding lawsuit and it had been established in one case (when Flair used the WCW belt on WWF television in 1991) and there was a legal action going on over a second case (Madusa throwing the WWF women’s belt in a garbage can) to where it was clear a title belt was the company’s intellectual property. There was no possible way at that point in time, that such a scenario could happen. He had a valid WWF contract and the belt was established in court cases as the intellectual property of the promotion, not the temporary property of the champion"

It's an interesting piece but you'd have the be very naive to believe the above. If WCW could have had anyway to get the WWF Title onto Nitro to be disrespected they'd have done it and dealt with any consequences later.

Could have just blurred it out.

savemejebus · 19-09-2014 10:35AM

Beefy78 wrote: »

It's an interesting piece but you'd have the be very naive to believe the above. If WCW could have had anyway to get the WWF Title onto Nitro to be disrespected they'd have done it and dealt with any consequences later.

As Rovert via Meltzer pointed out, Bret had 3 weeks to run on his contract, it would have been financial suicide for both him and WCW to break the contract in such a way.

I think WWE were never concerned about that, their main concern would have been Bischoff announcing to the world that they had signed the current WWF champion the night after Montreal.

Blue_Dabadee · 21-09-2014 04:07PM

Meh, I am not bothered if we have to wait a day for WWE PPV on WWE Network because I never stay up to watch WWE PPV unless it is Royal Rumble or WrestleMania.

I will be upset though if we dont get NXT and Main Event on our version of WWE Network.

But this is all speculation coming from "beta" tester of WWE Network.

I really do hope our version is just like US version because dont feel like paying for VPN for another month.

Agent Coulson · 21-09-2014 04:12PM

I've been saying from day one and still think Sky have a huge say in what version of the Network we get in Ireland/UK due to the huge money they paid for exclusive rights to show WWE over here.

Garseys · 21-09-2014 06:56PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I've been saying from day one and still think Sky have a huge say in what version of the Network we get in Ireland/UK due to the huge money they paid for exclusive rights to show WWE over here.

I don't think so, I think the ball was firmly in WWE's court with regard negotiations considering BT could have easily snapped a deal with them and the fact that WWE provide them with so much new weekly content.

Also wasn't it WWEs idea for SBO to show PPV's

21-09-2014 07:09PM

Watching Royal Rumble 94.... For a big man Yokozuna is pretty fast, love his leg drop! Doubt we will ever see such a bohemoth of a man who can actually wrestle again.

Has WWE forgot how to book heel monsters? Yoko won the rumble and headlined a mania in the space of a year.

Suppose same could be said about Brock, but he is easily promotable. Yoko was a massively overweight foreign wrestler.

why couldn't WWE promoted day Rusev in the same manager when he debuted. Or Umaga why couldn't he have just beat Cena in that excellent Last Man Standing match? What made Yoko so successful?

Agent Coulson · 21-09-2014 07:11PM

Garseys wrote: »

I don't think so, I think the ball was firmly in WWE's court with regard negotiations considering BT could have easily snapped a deal with them and the fact that WWE provide them with so much new weekly content.

Also wasn't it WWEs idea for SBO to show PPV's

You may be right.

But I just can't see Sky after paying 3 times the money for an exclusive rights contract they already had and then telling the WWE it's ok to show your PPV's for $9.99 when we charge £15.99/€21.99.

I was one of those who thought BT might have made a bid but they showed no interst at all in WWE. BT as of right now are after Sky's Football and Rugby.

Beefy78 · 21-09-2014 07:25PM

BT would have taken the WWE. Sky couldn't risk it either way.

Sky don't do PPV anymore. It doesn't work in Europe. If you look at the history of wrestling on PPV in UK/Ireland it was driven by WWE. I will be so surprised if they cause a fuss over the Network.

Itssoeasy · 21-09-2014 10:27PM

Watched the royal rumble 2001 originally shown on channel 4. I loved the royal rumble itself. Stone cold bleeding and that shot of him and rock in opposite corners and they locked eyes. Unreal.

21-09-2014 11:53PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Watched the royal rumble 2001 originally shown on channel 4. I loved the royal rumble itself. Stone cold bleeding and that shot of him and rock in opposite corners and they locked eyes. Unreal.

Remember Big Show was gone for a few months and returned at that Rumble.

"well it's the Big Show" hits and channel 4 cut to a break.

I used to hate the ppvs being on channel 4 :P

Itssoeasy · 22-09-2014 12:02AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Remember Big Show was gone for a few months and returned at that Rumble.

"well it's the Big Show" hits and channel 4 cut to a break.

I used to hate the ppvs being on channel 4 :P

Yeah and he was eliminated by the Rock and he dragged him out and chokeslammed him through the table. The rock selling it like a champ and JR losing his ****. Ah the attitude era.

The Ayatolla · 22-09-2014 08:54AM

Was that the one with Austin/Kane at the end?

Itssoeasy · 22-09-2014 10:50AM

The Ayatolla wrote: »

Was that the one with Austin/Kane at the end?

Yeah.

Beefy78 · 22-09-2014 11:19AM

Weirdly I was thinking about that one yesterday. It might be my favourite Rumble (I know a lot of people prefer 2002). Kane was immense throughout - still laugh at the Honky Tonk Man & Drew Carey spots. Scotty 2 Hotty's face when he realised he was stepping in the ring with Kane & Undertaker, Rock going through the table thanks to Big Show, the Hardcore Rumble part, Austin winning - it was just a fantastically well put together match.

Penn · 22-09-2014 11:57AM

Think it was Haku/Meng's WWF debut too. Definitely my favourite Royal Rumble. Kane was a beast.

MitchKoobski · 22-09-2014 11:15PM

Supposed to arrive here October 1st and still no advertising or news. This only increases my worry that Sky have gotten a stranglehold over it.

Garseys · 22-09-2014 11:23PM

MitchKoobski wrote: »

Supposed to arrive here October 1st and still no advertising or news. This only increases my worry that Sky have gotten a stranglehold over it.

Id reckon if Sky had a stranglehold on it we'd know well about it considering skys hype machine.

Then again could be WWE just not being bothered.

martyos121 · 23-09-2014 12:32AM

Garseys wrote: »

Id reckon if Sky had a stranglehold on it we'd know well about it considering skys hype machine.

Then again could be WWE just not being bothered.

It's this, for certain. Think about it, the network was made available in over 100 countries back in August, and I'm sure they didn't go through an extensive marketing campaign in each of these countries to promote the product. Despite us and the UK getting shows frequently, they just don't care about anyone unless they live in America. Just look at Canada, they got screwed over pretty bad.

Beefy78 · 23-09-2014 09:32AM

Yeah I doubt they have done much advertising anywhere. They figure that the constant plugging on the TV shows will drive business to the network,

Really, would anyone who doesn't watch the current product pay a tenner a month for this?

Sin Eater · 23-09-2014 10:54AM

martyos121 wrote: »

It's this, for certain. Think about it, the network was made available in over 100 countries back in August, and I'm sure they didn't go through an extensive marketing campaign in each of these countries to promote the product. Despite us and the UK getting shows frequently, they just don't care about anyone unless they live in America. Just look at Canada, they got screwed over pretty bad.

How did Canada get screwed?

Haven't been paying much attention to he network as it wasn't available. But did they not get the full version in Canada or something?

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