Class division is real

DEFTLEFTHAND · 08-09-2014 04:41AM

I love rugby and GAA, listen dude the middle class don't have any hangups.

I'm a great fan of football also and the saddest thing I see is clowns supporting 'Yanited', Lolpool and Chelski.

Liverpool especially, their fans produce the biggest bullsh1t going. RAWK Meltdown on Twitter is always good for a laugh.

It pains me to see the real boys out there trying to make a stand. Ireland doesn't have much of a soccer culture because these sh1tes won't support the domestic league. You Jackeens for instance, you've 4 LOI teams to support, Pats, Bohs, Rovers and Shels (in the first division.)

Stop pissing around and start going to games.

suicide_circus · 08-09-2014 05:44AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I love rugby and GAA, listen dude the middle class don't have any hangups.

I'm a great fan of football also and the saddest thing I see is clowns supporting 'Yanited', Lolpool and Chelski.

Liverpool especially, their fans produce the biggest bullsh1t going. RAWK Meltdown on Twitter is always good for a laugh.

It pains me to see the real boys out there trying to make a stand. Ireland doesn't have much of a soccer culture because these sh1tes won't support the domestic league. You Jackeens for instance, you've 4 LOI teams to support, Pats, Bohs, Rovers and Shels (in the first division.)

Stop pissing around and start going to games.

People dont watch premier league because of some defect in their character. They watch it because they enjoy seeing top quality players plying their trade. You dont get this with LOI.
Although I do agree, the tribalism engaged in by grown men for a team they have no real affiliation with is questionable.

Nodin · 08-09-2014 05:52AM

Awkward Badger wrote: »

What about them ? They are pro British agenda ?

Essentially.

Tail Docker · 08-09-2014 06:38AM

better call saul wrote: »

Well I've never heard much of it

Pfffftt. Totes bogger. As I said to Tarquin only the other day, while waiting for a tennis court to come free - "Sure they don't have a clue loike, bogball is their loife ffs".

cloud493 · 08-09-2014 06:50AM

Awkward Badger wrote: »

Have to say regardless of class, sporting interests or whatever else I haven't yet come across anyone I'd class as "Pro British Agenda". Whatever the fcuk that entails.

Lots of tea and extremely greasy food.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 08-09-2014 07:02AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

People dont watch premier league because of some defect in their character. They watch it because they enjoy seeing top quality players plying their trade. You dont get this with LOI.
Although I do agree, the tribalism engaged in by grown men for a team they have no real affiliation with is questionable.

Football culture means something in England and on the Continent, supporting your local team whether it be Grimsby Town or Man United. Saying the masses support the best quality means you don't understand their culture, it's not a consumer product it's something that these men have ingrained in them from a young age.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0tkwqhXTc4

mikemac1 · 08-09-2014 07:06AM

Of course, South Dublin elite Garrett Fitzgerald passed comment on Donneycarney local Charles Haughey that he had a "flawed pedigree"

We all know about Haughey. Wasn't his fault as he just wasn't bred of the right stuff :rolleyes:

suicide_circus · 08-09-2014 07:20AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Football culture means something in England and on the Continent, supporting your local team whether it be Grimsby Town or Man United. Saying the masses support the best quality means you don't understand their culture, it's not a consumer product it's something that these men have ingrained in them from a young age. Their born with it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0tkwqhXTc4

I guess I can only speak for myself and my pals, we would watch games from the premiership, bundesliga, la liga, Eredivisie, series A, champos, europa, WC because there is quality football on show. Quality football is a rarity in the LOI.

RobYourBuilder · 08-09-2014 07:38AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

I guess I can only speak for myself and my pals, we would watch games from the premiership, bundesliga, la liga, Eredivisie, series A, champos, europa, WC because there is quality football on show. Quality football is a rarity in the LOI.

Did you watch the Dundalk and Pats game on RTE last Friday? An entertaining game with some quality players on display.

Tail Docker · 08-09-2014 08:03AM

If only there were a place where we could talk about football...

Teyla Emmagan · 08-09-2014 08:16AM

Tail Docker wrote: »

If only there were a place where we could talk about football...

And if only everyone who wants to talk about football would go there :-)

I actually met someone who described themselves as a west Brit a couple of weeks ago. It's a moniker I have never heard anyone apply to themselves. She was working the eccentric vibe though, so that may have been part of it.

Santa Cruz · 08-09-2014 08:53AM

Tail Docker wrote: »

Pfffftt. Totes bogger. As I said to Tarquin only the other day, while waiting for a tennis court to come free - "Sure they don't have a clue loike, bogball is their loife ffs".

So that's where Tarquin was last week. I had searched everywhere for him as we had a tricky cricket outing against Douglas Newman Good

Balmed Out · 08-09-2014 09:33AM

What I've noticed is that pro - British or west Brit are terms ignorant or stupid people ascribe to arrogant / annoying people that they don't like or have anything in common with.

Pumpkinseeds · 08-09-2014 09:45AM

Bambi wrote: »

Stay off the dublin coast and you'll be grand, we do hate brits and love a bit of GAA once you move bit more in land

Speak for yourself, it sounds like I need to move to D4.:p

suicide_circus · 08-09-2014 09:45AM

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

Did you watch the Dundalk and Pats game on RTE last Friday? An entertaining game with some quality players on display.

Fair enough, an exception rather than the rule but I take your point that some if games can be ok

traprunner · 08-09-2014 09:45AM

In Dublin it's something like this:
1. Banker and Property Developers class
2. Horse Show class
3. Hockey class
4. Rugby class
5. Soccer class
6. GAA class (because they think everyone that likes GAA is a bogger)
7. Long term dole class

The_Captain · 08-09-2014 09:54AM

In Dublin, horses are for knackers. Horse Show class is solely for posh boggers with stables

seamus · 08-09-2014 09:54AM

Balmed Out wrote: »

What I've noticed is that pro - British or west Brit are terms ignorant or stupid people ascribe to arrogant / annoying people that they don't like or have anything in common with.

Pro-British or "West Brit" are derogatory terms used by small-minded simpletons to describe anyone who doesn't subscribe to the notion that Northern Ireland belongs to people who've never even lived there (read: Southern Irish) and that the IRA of the 1970s and 80s were freedom fighters rather than butchers and scumbags.

I would describe myself as specifically non-nationalist*, but I love GAA, have little interest in rugby or soccer and have never watched a hockey game in my life.

Class divisions only exist in your head OP. You put them there yourself to convince yourself that there's something wrong with people who don't agree with you.

*I love Ireland, but I recognise that I love Ireland because I was born here by pure chance and had a fun upbringing. I would be willing to fight to defend Ireland only insofar as I would fight to protect my family and our freedom. If a merger with the UK was proposed tomorrow which would result in a better and more prosperous democratic state, I would consider it.

Balmed Out · 08-09-2014 09:58AM

seamus wrote: »

Pro-British or "West Brit" are derogatory terms used by small-minded simpletons to describe anyone who doesn't subscribe to the notion that Northern Ireland belongs to people who've never even lived there (read: Southern Irish) and that the IRA of the 1970s and 80s were freedom fighters rather than butchers and scumbags.

I wouldn't give them so much credit, most people who use it to describe someone else have absolutely no idea of the others political beliefs.

johnnyskeleton · 08-09-2014 10:49AM

better call saul wrote: »

Something I've only discovered in the past few months, there seems to be an elite withing Dublin and it's environs, rugby and hockey playing scoffing at any mention of gaa, anti nationalism pro British agenda, is it just me or am I going mad?

Wait, you mean people are allowed to choose which sports to watch and what politics to believe in? Next youll be saying that they dont have to live their lives accordig to the parish priest's dicta!

Seriously though OP, you seem to know very little about Ireland. Limerick is the rugby heartland, dublin have good (but, sadly, not great) football and hurling teams and hockey is played on a limited basis in various parts of ireland (including Mayo for example -http://www.mayosports.ie/ProgrammesGrants/Projects/ ).

As for politics, if anti nationalist and pro british means being in favour of northern ireland remaining in the uk and giving up our territorial claim to it, thats 94% of the population according to the good friday referendum. So unless people in dublin voted twice and people outside of dublin not at all, it couldnt posssibly be just Dublin.

The real problem is that a lot of people dislike Dublin for reasons they cant explain, and some of them try desperately to try to identify something to show that theyre different folk!

johnnyskeleton · 08-09-2014 11:01AM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

No your right but this was always the case with Dublin and Wicklow, if it wasnt for the south and west, Ireland would still be under british rule and most of the people there would love it.

Ah yes, we all remember the 1916 rising in Tralee and Galway post offices

RollieFingers · 08-09-2014 11:05AM

I'm from Greystones and would definitely have more of an affinity with Britain than I would anywhere in Ireland outside of Dublin or Wicklow.
And I detest GAA!

biko · 08-09-2014 11:07AM

better call saul wrote: »

Something I've only discovered in the past few months, there seems to be an elite withing Dublin and it's environs, rugby and hockey playing scoffing at any mention of gaa, anti nationalism pro British agenda, is it just me or am I going mad?

Yes, we've called them west brits for many years.
They just are closer culturally to Britain in general and loathe Irish things like our own sports, accents and Irish ways.
The further away from the pale you get the less of this influence you'll see.

Gyalist · 08-09-2014 11:27AM

Saw this tweet yesterday from the live coverage of a cricket match in South Dublin:

Not everyday your 2 sons play in the same match, but the [redacted]* is off to watch catholic hockey at GAAHQ #ohdear!

*identifying info redacted

Panthro · 08-09-2014 11:29AM

I've felt the class thing all the way through school...
Brutal, brutal times.

Berserker · 08-09-2014 11:31AM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

No your right but this was always the case with Dublin and Wicklow, if it wasnt for the south and west, Ireland would still be under british rule and most of the people there would love it.

And, so what? What's wrong with people being happy, if it's under British rule? You would swear that 100 years of Republican and RCC rule has brought us fantastic success, as opposed to the parochial based circus that is Dail Eireann, the shambolic health service or the farcical property bubble based economy.

TheBeardedLady · 08-09-2014 11:46AM

Super-Rush wrote: »

Jaysus you got in early with this weeks Dublin thread and would you believe it, its been done loike a million times.

TL,DR?

The majority of people in most counties are bang on people, a tiny minority are cunts.

Most counties? I'm bursting with curiosity to hear which don't have the majority of bang on people.

Berserker · 08-09-2014 11:50AM

TheBeardedLady wrote: »

Most counties? I'm bursting with curiosity to hear which don't have the majority of bang on people.

How do you measure how 'bang on' someone is? This is all new to me.

o1s1n · 08-09-2014 12:12PM

biko wrote: »

Yes, we've called them west brits for many years.
They just are closer culturally to Britain in general and loathe Irish things like our own sports, accents and Irish ways.
The further away from the pale you get the less of this influence you'll see.

It's got nothing to do with Dublin people being closer culturally to Britain and everything to do with city folk having a different mentality to country folk.

Britain has 'country people' too you know. I guess I better start calling people from the Irish countryside 'West Brits' seeing as they're so similar culturally to their British countryside dwelling brethren.

There's plenty of Irish culture to be seen in Dublin. Sure don't we play host to all of you culchies for GAA matches? :pac:

anncoates · 08-09-2014 12:18PM

biko wrote: »

The further away from the pale you get the less of this influence you'll see.

Wouldn't being further away from the pale make you a tan though?

Class division is real

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