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FullblownRose · 07-09-2014 09:06PM #1

Everything seems quite tightly regulated nowadays. I seems that new rules and regulations come into effect very frequently. I doubt if very technology focused ppeople would notice r feel affected by this but not everyone is of the same view so I am curious as to whether others have noticed and are bothered ?

In fact it seems that so many rules come into force that it might eventually become impossible for anyone to maintain any old fashioned hobby or craft ithut special licenses and permits etc.

I see society as quite restrictive now, and I wonder if others here feel the same, either in relatin to the carrying out of old fashioned non technolog related activity or in any other ways?

Perhaps there is a more appropriate forum for this query, in which case a moderator might move the post for me

Fr_Dougal · 07-09-2014 09:09PM

Apparently Rolf Harris feels the same.

cloud493 · 07-09-2014 09:11PM

Something something nanny state.

FullblownRose · 07-09-2014 09:12PM

TheZohan wrote: »

Apparently Rolf Harris feels the same.

Ah now.

I'm talking about traditiohnal crafts, farming, restoring machiner or cars, blacksmithing..stuff that's probably half died out already... and stuff..no need to drag it down into the gutter!

FullblownRose · 07-09-2014 09:12PM

cloud493 wrote: »

Something something nanny state.

Well yes.. it has not been an issue for you, i take it...

ceadaoin. · 07-09-2014 09:13PM

What old fashioned crafts and hobbies do you mean?

FullblownRose · 07-09-2014 09:16PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

What old fashioned crafts and hobbies do you mean?

Any of them...blacksmithing and woodworking are the first that spring to mind....I know they're already almost obsolete but I am wondering if they'll become impossible because rules will be geared towards cleaner, more high technology industries...I am trying to understand whether this has alread been the case or whether anyone can offer some insight from personal experience...we do live in an era where mass production is normal and necessary...

Satriale · 07-09-2014 09:21PM

I've discovered that if you ignore many regulations your hobbies work away just fine without them.

TheBeardedLady · 07-09-2014 09:23PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

What old fashioned crafts and hobbies do you mean?

Darning, fuzzwinking, leedle-doodling, thrembabbling and the likes.

Shakespeare's Sister · 07-09-2014 09:23PM

FullblownRose wrote: »

Well yes.. it has not been an issue for you, i take it...

Well it's just that it's a woefully over-used/misused phrase - think that's what they meant.
What do you mean specifically? Don't know what to say as your post is kinda vague.

07-09-2014 09:25PM

I need more examples to make some kind of judgement. How do regulations affect hobbyist carpenters?

kneemos · 07-09-2014 09:29PM

Old folk love talking about how everything was slower and more difficult back I'm the day.
Don't know why you'd want to go back to it though,mass production is more environmentally friendly and cheaper.
If it's just a hobby I doubt anyone would care if you work some iron in the garden,as long as the neighbour's don't complain aboutb the smoke.

ceadaoin. · 07-09-2014 09:31PM

FullblownRose wrote: »

Any of them...blacksmithing and woodworking are the first that spring to mind....I know they're already almost obsolete but I am wondering if they'll become impossible because rules will be geared towards cleaner, more high technology industries...I am trying to understand whether this has alread been the case or whether anyone can offer some insight from personal experience...we do live in an era where mass production is normal and necessary...

Well I don't have much experience of those things but I wasn't aware that they were being restricted or that there is a possibility that they may be in the future?

Crafts and hobbies are different from industry. There is nothing stopping someone setting up a carpentry workshop in their shed if they wish is there? I'm sure there will always be a demand for high quality bespoke furniture or iron work but as that is more expensive, mass produced stuff is going to be more popular. But I don't think the handmade stuff will become obselete if that's what you're trying to say.

dxhound2005 · 07-09-2014 09:37PM

FullblownRose wrote: »

Everything seems quite tightly regulated nowadays. I seems that new rules and regulations come into effect very frequently. I doubt if very technology focused ppeople would notice r feel affected by this but not everyone is of the same view so I am curious as to whether others have noticed and are bothered ?

In fact it seems that so many rules come into force that it might eventually become impossible for anyone to maintain any old fashioned hobby or craft ithut special licenses and permits etc.

I see society as quite restrictive now, and I wonder if others here feel the same, either in relatin to the carrying out of old fashioned non technolog related activity or in any other ways?

Perhaps there is a more appropriate forum for this query, in which case a moderator might move the post for me

Old fashioned spelling is a thing of the past.

I know, I know, you sent it from your phone and that is quite difficult.

Tail Docker · 07-09-2014 09:38PM

Bob Dylan makes and sells steel gates as his hobby. Who knew?? They sell for a lot too.

The Backwards Man · 07-09-2014 09:40PM

I agree.

*sips poitin*

TheBeardedLady · 07-09-2014 09:42PM

Candie wrote: »

I need more examples to make some kind of judgement. How do regulations affect hobbyist carpenters?

Bugle-grobling, winkytaling, pinch-minch....there's literally 100s!

07-09-2014 09:43PM

TheBeardedLady wrote: »

Bugle-grobling, winkytaling, pinch-minch....there's literally 100s!

No nanny state interference needed in any of those.

Except bugle-grobling, I suspect that one carries a health risk.

TheBeardedLady · 07-09-2014 09:44PM

Candie wrote: »

No nanny state interference needed in any of those.

Except bugle-grobling, I suspect that one carries a health risk.

Cheeky

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 07-09-2014 09:49PM

A. What have regulations got to do with the demise of the blacksmith?
B. I remember the smithies well and it was not regulations that did them in.
C. Things move on. Such is life. Fletchers are no longer employed by kings for instance.

hatrickpatrick · 07-09-2014 09:53PM

Ireland seems to be far worse than many other countries. Take the Irish Medicines Board for example - hundreds of bodybuilding supplements which are happily sold OTC in Britain and the US have to be smuggled into Ireland and have no chance whatsoever of appearing in any shops. St John's Wort is another example.

Country is ridiculous but what can we do about it? Most of the quangos which bring these regulations in, such as the IMB, are unelected and therefore entirely unaccountable to the public. :mad:

dxhound2005 · 07-09-2014 10:00PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Ireland seems to be far worse than many other countries. Take the Irish Medicines Board for example - hundreds of bodybuilding supplements which are happily sold OTC in Britain and the US have to be smuggled into Ireland and have no chance whatsoever of appearing in any shops. St John's Wort is another example.

Country is ridiculous but what can we do about it? Most of the quangos which bring these regulations in, such as the IMB, are unelected and therefore entirely unaccountable to the public. :mad:

I think I can dectect a little bit of 'roid rage in that mad face.

anncoates · 07-09-2014 10:00PM

I was a cooper myself but that trade is a memory.

I lost out to redundancy around the time my mot ran off to Birmingham with a black student.

dxhound2005 · 07-09-2014 10:01PM

anncoates wrote: »

I was a cooper myself but that trade is a memory.

I lost out to redundancy around the time my mot ran off to Birmingham with a black student.

Ah, the rare oul times.

Greenmachine · 07-09-2014 10:05PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Ireland seems to be far worse than many other countries. Take the Irish Medicines Board for example - hundreds of bodybuilding supplements which are happily sold OTC in Britain and the US have to be smuggled into Ireland and have no chance whatsoever of appearing in any shops. St John's Wort is another example.

Country is ridiculous but what can we do about it? Most of the quangos which bring these regulations in, such as the IMB, are unelected and therefore entirely unaccountable to the public. :mad:

And to think I can go to any Greengrocer or supermarket and buy grapefruit.

dr.bollocko · 07-09-2014 10:18PM

Greenmachine wrote: »

And to think I can go to any Greengrocer or supermarket and buy grapefruit.

Opium is much harder to get over the counter too. Time was you couldn't have a good witch burning without it.

hatrickpatrick · 08-09-2014 12:33AM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I think I can dectect a little bit of 'roid rage in that mad face.

PES Erase baby

Greenmachine · 08-09-2014 12:37AM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Opium is much harder to get over the counter too. Time was you couldn't have a good witch burning without it.

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Gee's linctus?

StewartGriffin · 08-09-2014 01:30AM

TheZohan wrote: »

Apparently Rolf Harris feels the same.

Feeble effort at thanks-whore humour recieving negligible thanks....

Fail!

Dermighty · 08-09-2014 01:42AM

FullblownRose wrote: »

Ah now.

I'm talking about traditiohnal crafts, farming, restoring machiner or cars, blacksmithing..stuff that's probably half died out already... and stuff..no need to drag it down into the gutter!

A major reason blacksmithing and traditional crafts are gone for has to do with the division of labour more than 200 years ago!

FloatingVoter · 08-09-2014 01:50AM

Tail Docker wrote: »

Bob Dylan makes and sells steel gates as his hobby. Who knew?? They sell for a lot too.

Harrison Ford is a very good carpenter. He was making a handy living from it until Star Wars came along.
Clint Eastwood used to dig the holes for swimming pools - cheap Hollywood gits wouldn't get in a JCB back in the '50s.

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