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FullblownRose

Everything seems quite tightly regulated nowadays. I seems that new rules and regulations come into effect very frequently. I doubt if very technology focused ppeople would notice r feel affected by this but not everyone is of the same view so I am curious as to whether others have noticed and are bothered ?

In fact it seems that so many rules come into force that it might eventually become impossible for anyone to maintain any old fashioned hobby or craft ithut special licenses and permits etc.

I see society as quite restrictive now, and I wonder if others here feel the same, either in relatin to the carrying out of old fashioned non technolog related activity or in any other ways?

Perhaps there is a more appropriate forum for this query, in which case a moderator might move the post for me

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Fr_Dougal

Apparently Rolf Harris feels the same.

cloud493

Something something nanny state.

FullblownRose

TheZohan wrote: »

Apparently Rolf Harris feels the same.

Ah now.

I'm talking about traditiohnal crafts, farming, restoring machiner or cars, blacksmithing..stuff that's probably half died out already... and stuff..no need to drag it down into the gutter!

FullblownRose

cloud493 wrote: »

Something something nanny state.

Well yes.. it has not been an issue for you, i take it...

ceadaoin.

What old fashioned crafts and hobbies do you mean?

FullblownRose

ceadaoin. wrote: »

What old fashioned crafts and hobbies do you mean?

Any of them...blacksmithing and woodworking are the first that spring to mind....I know they're already almost obsolete but I am wondering if they'll become impossible because rules will be geared towards cleaner, more high technology industries...I am trying to understand whether this has alread been the case or whether anyone can offer some insight from personal experience...we do live in an era where mass production is normal and necessary...

Satriale

I've discovered that if you ignore many regulations your hobbies work away just fine without them.

TheBeardedLady

ceadaoin. wrote: »

What old fashioned crafts and hobbies do you mean?

Darning, fuzzwinking, leedle-doodling, thrembabbling and the likes.

Shakespeare's Sister

FullblownRose wrote: »

Well yes.. it has not been an issue for you, i take it...

Well it's just that it's a woefully over-used/misused phrase - think that's what they meant.
What do you mean specifically? Don't know what to say as your post is kinda vague.

[Deleted User]

I need more examples to make some kind of judgement. How do regulations affect hobbyist carpenters?

kneemos

Old folk love talking about how everything was slower and more difficult back I'm the day.
Don't know why you'd want to go back to it though,mass production is more environmentally friendly and cheaper.
If it's just a hobby I doubt anyone would care if you work some iron in the garden,as long as the neighbour's don't complain aboutb the smoke.

ceadaoin.

FullblownRose wrote: »

Any of them...blacksmithing and woodworking are the first that spring to mind....I know they're already almost obsolete but I am wondering if they'll become impossible because rules will be geared towards cleaner, more high technology industries...I am trying to understand whether this has alread been the case or whether anyone can offer some insight from personal experience...we do live in an era where mass production is normal and necessary...

Well I don't have much experience of those things but I wasn't aware that they were being restricted or that there is a possibility that they may be in the future?

Crafts and hobbies are different from industry. There is nothing stopping someone setting up a carpentry workshop in their shed if they wish is there? I'm sure there will always be a demand for high quality bespoke furniture or iron work but as that is more expensive, mass produced stuff is going to be more popular. But I don't think the handmade stuff will become obselete if that's what you're trying to say.

dxhound2005

FullblownRose wrote: »

Everything seems quite tightly regulated nowadays. I seems that new rules and regulations come into effect very frequently. I doubt if very technology focused ppeople would notice r feel affected by this but not everyone is of the same view so I am curious as to whether others have noticed and are bothered ?

In fact it seems that so many rules come into force that it might eventually become impossible for anyone to maintain any old fashioned hobby or craft ithut special licenses and permits etc.

I see society as quite restrictive now, and I wonder if others here feel the same, either in relatin to the carrying out of old fashioned non technolog related activity or in any other ways?

Perhaps there is a more appropriate forum for this query, in which case a moderator might move the post for me

Old fashioned spelling is a thing of the past.

I know, I know, you sent it from your phone and that is quite difficult.

Tail Docker

Bob Dylan makes and sells steel gates as his hobby. Who knew?? They sell for a lot too.

The Backwards Man

I agree.

*sips poitin*

TheBeardedLady

Candie wrote: »

I need more examples to make some kind of judgement. How do regulations affect hobbyist carpenters?

Bugle-grobling, winkytaling, pinch-minch....there's literally 100s!

[Deleted User]

TheBeardedLady wrote: »

Bugle-grobling, winkytaling, pinch-minch....there's literally 100s!

No nanny state interference needed in any of those.

Except bugle-grobling, I suspect that one carries a health risk.

TheBeardedLady

Candie wrote: »

No nanny state interference needed in any of those.

Except bugle-grobling, I suspect that one carries a health risk.

Cheeky

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

A. What have regulations got to do with the demise of the blacksmith?
B. I remember the smithies well and it was not regulations that did them in.
C. Things move on. Such is life. Fletchers are no longer employed by kings for instance.

hatrickpatrick

Ireland seems to be far worse than many other countries. Take the Irish Medicines Board for example - hundreds of bodybuilding supplements which are happily sold OTC in Britain and the US have to be smuggled into Ireland and have no chance whatsoever of appearing in any shops. St John's Wort is another example.

Country is ridiculous but what can we do about it? Most of the quangos which bring these regulations in, such as the IMB, are unelected and therefore entirely unaccountable to the public. :mad:

dxhound2005

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Ireland seems to be far worse than many other countries. Take the Irish Medicines Board for example - hundreds of bodybuilding supplements which are happily sold OTC in Britain and the US have to be smuggled into Ireland and have no chance whatsoever of appearing in any shops. St John's Wort is another example.

Country is ridiculous but what can we do about it? Most of the quangos which bring these regulations in, such as the IMB, are unelected and therefore entirely unaccountable to the public. :mad:

I think I can dectect a little bit of 'roid rage in that mad face.

anncoates

I was a cooper myself but that trade is a memory.

I lost out to redundancy around the time my mot ran off to Birmingham with a black student.

dxhound2005

anncoates wrote: »

I was a cooper myself but that trade is a memory.

I lost out to redundancy around the time my mot ran off to Birmingham with a black student.

Ah, the rare oul times.

Greenmachine

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Ireland seems to be far worse than many other countries. Take the Irish Medicines Board for example - hundreds of bodybuilding supplements which are happily sold OTC in Britain and the US have to be smuggled into Ireland and have no chance whatsoever of appearing in any shops. St John's Wort is another example.

Country is ridiculous but what can we do about it? Most of the quangos which bring these regulations in, such as the IMB, are unelected and therefore entirely unaccountable to the public. :mad:

And to think I can go to any Greengrocer or supermarket and buy grapefruit.

dr.bollocko

Greenmachine wrote: »

And to think I can go to any Greengrocer or supermarket and buy grapefruit.

Opium is much harder to get over the counter too. Time was you couldn't have a good witch burning without it.

hatrickpatrick

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I think I can dectect a little bit of 'roid rage in that mad face.

PES Erase baby

Greenmachine

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Opium is much harder to get over the counter too. Time was you couldn't have a good witch burning without it.

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Gee's linctus?

StewartGriffin

TheZohan wrote: »

Apparently Rolf Harris feels the same.

Feeble effort at thanks-whore humour recieving negligible thanks....

Fail!

Dermighty

FullblownRose wrote: »

Ah now.

I'm talking about traditiohnal crafts, farming, restoring machiner or cars, blacksmithing..stuff that's probably half died out already... and stuff..no need to drag it down into the gutter!

A major reason blacksmithing and traditional crafts are gone for has to do with the division of labour more than 200 years ago!

FloatingVoter

Tail Docker wrote: »

Bob Dylan makes and sells steel gates as his hobby. Who knew?? They sell for a lot too.

Harrison Ford is a very good carpenter. He was making a handy living from it until Star Wars came along.
Clint Eastwood used to dig the holes for swimming pools - cheap Hollywood gits wouldn't get in a JCB back in the '50s.