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SafeSurfer · 19-08-2014 09:50PM

wiseoldelf34 wrote: »

my favourite part was when he shot the guy from the dole for cutting his scratcher

The man wasn't shot. A car bomb was planted in his car and he was badly injured but survived. He was until recently head of the department of justice.

Jawgap · 19-08-2014 09:54PM

Jimminy Mc Fukhead wrote: »

Of course they weren't delighted. Did I say they would be?

Unfortunately Jawgp you lack the intellect to comprehend that any action in this world can be simultaneously morally deficient and competently executed.

I see everything has to be explained to you - slowly. I wasn't talking about him being excitable. It was an obviously too subtle reference to you getting your knickers in a twist.

Well, I don't wear knickers and I'm not sure how you get from my posts they would be in a twist if I did wear them but hey-Ho, anyway.

I don't believe I lack intellect, and I'm not sure I'd cast any of his (Cahill's) actions as 'victories' - but each to their own, I suppose.

Jimminy Mc Fukhead · 19-08-2014 10:01PM

Jawgap wrote: »

Well, I don't wear knickers and I'm not sure how you get from my posts they would be in a twist if I did wear them but hey-Ho, anyway.

I don't believe I lack intellect, and I'm not sure I'd cast any of his (Cahill's) actions as 'victories' - but each to their own, I suppose.

It's a term of expression refers to your first post jumping down my neck.

I'm not going to pull any punches when you to suit whatever emotional hang ups you have about Cahill attempt to cast me as an advocate of the man.

Jawgap · 19-08-2014 10:01PM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

The man wasn't shot. A car bomb was planted in his car and he was badly injured but survived. He was until recently head of the department of justice.

No, it was James O'Donovan he tried to kill using a car bomb, leaving him partially disabled.

Brian Purcell was the then official who cut off his social welfare and was kidnapped (having tied up his pregnant wife) and shot him in the legs.

tashiusclay · 19-08-2014 10:41PM

I wonder if that Renault 5 still exists today? It'd be a comical piece of Irish motoring history for sure, if it does!

Sunnyisland · 19-08-2014 11:29PM

tashiusclay wrote: »

I wonder if that Renault 5 still exists today? It'd be a comical piece of Irish motoring history for sure, if it does!

Suppose General Motors has it...

Mr Williams · 02-09-2014 07:27PM

Martin Cahill was one of the last old school gentleman robin hood type criminals.

Todays criminals have no respect for anybody and will even shoot innocent people.

When Cahill ran Dublins gangland it was a much safer place than it is today.

Since Cahill died drugs and shootings have got out of control.

If Cahill was around today he simply would not tolerate all the drug dealing and shootings thats going on. Cahill was 100% anti drugs and would of ran the drug dealers out of Dublin.

Santa Cruz · 02-09-2014 07:36PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

Martin Cahill was one of the last old school gentleman robin hood type criminals.

Todays criminals have no respect for anybody and will even shoot innocent people.

When Cahill ran Dublins gangland it was a much safer place than it is today.

Since Cahill died drugs and shootings have got out of control.

If Cahill was around today he simply would not tolerate all the drug dealing and shootings thats going on. Cahill was 100% anti drugs and would of ran the drug dealers out of Dublin.

That is pure unadulterated tripe. "Robin Hood" Have you the list of deserving causes which he gave his ill gotten gains to? Are you aware of the beatings he administered to innocent staff in post offices, etc he was robbing?
The only problem I have was that they didn't take him out a lot sooner and his gang of scum with him

Tail Docker · 02-09-2014 08:00PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

Martin Cahill was one of the last old school gentleman robin hood type criminals.

Todays criminals have no respect for anybody and will even shoot innocent people.

When Cahill ran Dublins gangland it was a much safer place than it is today.

Since Cahill died drugs and shootings have got out of control.

If Cahill was around today he simply would not tolerate all the drug dealing and shootings thats going on. Cahill was 100% anti drugs and would of ran the drug dealers out of Dublin.

Umm. No. When he was hiding out from his surveillance, he stayed at a house I now own. He had a purpose built apartment there. The owner then was a major drug trafficker. So, fairly tolerant of drugs etc..

Mr Williams · 02-09-2014 08:16PM

Tail Docker wrote: »

Umm. No. When he was hiding out from his surveillance, he stayed at a house I now own. He had a purpose built apartment there. The owner then was a major drug trafficker. So, fairly tolerant of drugs etc..

I dont believe that the general would never knowingly get involved with drug dealers.

He use to visit the area my grandmother lives in. Anybody that met him would tell you that he was a true gentleman.

Did you know that he use to hand out free nappies and other household items to single mothers. What criminal today would do that ?

Valetta · 02-09-2014 08:20PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

I dont believe that the general would never knowingly get involved with drug dealers.

He use to visit the area my grandmother lives in. Anybody that met him would tell you that he was a true gentleman.

Did you know that he use to hand out free nappies and other household items to single mothers. What criminal today would do that ?

They weren't free nappies.

Someone paid for them.

McCrack · 02-09-2014 08:20PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

Martin Cahill was one of the last old school gentleman robin hood type criminals.

Todays criminals have no respect for anybody and will even shoot innocent people.

When Cahill ran Dublins gangland it was a much safer place than it is today.

Since Cahill died drugs and shootings have got out of control.

If Cahill was around today he simply would not tolerate all the drug dealing and shootings thats going on. Cahill was 100% anti drugs and would of ran the drug dealers out of Dublin.

Paul is that you?

Tail Docker · 02-09-2014 08:49PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

I dont believe that the general would never knowingly get involved with drug dealers.

He use to visit the area my grandmother lives in. Anybody that met him would tell you that he was a true gentleman.

Did you know that he use to hand out free nappies and other household items to single mothers. What criminal today would do that ?

You're talking out of your butt. Simple as.

Jawgap · 02-09-2014 09:15PM

Mr Williams wrote: »

I dont believe that the general would never knowingly get involved with drug dealers.

He use to visit the area my grandmother lives in. Anybody that met him would tell you that he was a true gentleman.

Did you know that he use to hand out free nappies and other household items to single mothers. What criminal today would do that ?

So were the attacks on Purcell and O'Donovan justified? How do you reconcile your ideas about him with those acts?

Beano · 02-09-2014 11:46PM

Valetta wrote: »

They weren't free nappies.

Someone paid for them.

Exactly. Its a lot easier to be generous with stuff that you have robbed.

wiseoldelf34 · 03-09-2014 05:46PM

that was a fast twenty years.
fair play to him.absolute gent

Tail Docker · 03-09-2014 06:22PM

wiseoldelf34 wrote: »

that was a fast twenty years.
fair play to him.absolute gent

In as much as? Ever meet or chat to him?

wiseoldelf34 · 03-09-2014 07:32PM

Tail Docker wrote: »

In as much as? Ever meet or chat to him?

yes.he was a pigeon enthusiast like myself knew him very well.he would come to meetings and was in my home many times.much of the hype was media generated.I found him to be nothing but civil to my wife and childrenI

Beano · 03-09-2014 07:36PM

wiseoldelf34 wrote: »

yes.he was a pigeon enthusiast like myself knew him very well.he would come to meetings and was in my home many times.much of the hype was media generated.I found him to be nothing but civil to my wife and childrenI

i'm sure he was a lovely lad apart from all the theft, violence, intimidation, attempted murder and the like.

Jawgap · 03-09-2014 07:47PM

wiseoldelf34 wrote: »

yes.he was a pigeon enthusiast like myself knew him very well.he would come to meetings and was in my home many times.much of the hype was media generated.I found him to be nothing but civil to my wife and childrenI

Sure didn't he like families - that's why he had two.

wiseoldelf34 · 03-09-2014 08:05PM

I never knew him in that capacity .so I can't comment all I will say is papers will print the most attention grabbing headlines to sell.and to hell with the truth.

smash · 03-09-2014 08:07PM

wiseoldelf34 wrote: »

I never knew him in that capacity .so I can't comment all I will say is papers will print the most attention grabbing headlines to sell.and to hell with the truth.

They only published the truth!

Valetta · 03-09-2014 08:14PM

wiseoldelf34 wrote: »

I never knew him in that capacity .so I can't comment all I will say is papers will print the most attention grabbing headlines to sell.and to hell with the truth.

Can you not comment on all his court appearances and convictions?

Welruc · 03-09-2014 08:35PM

smash wrote: »

But like myself and another person have said already... He was not killed outside one of his houses!

sure he wasn't inside any house when he was killed so therefore he had to be outside every house.....even mine!!!

nlgbbbblth · 03-09-2014 08:57PM

Shakespeare's Sister wrote: »

Well they would have been hard men, yeh. Any view on the UVF, also mentioned in the post?

There's quite a few Irish people who are happy to stay silent and offer no criticism of the UVF and other loyalist paramilitaries. Some of them were in the coalition government and the Gardaí during 1974.

The General's association with UVF was a threat to our national security.

Shakespeare's Sister · 03-09-2014 08:58PM

The OP is probably from a nice comfortable background but with a "gangsta" fixation.

nlgbbbblth wrote: »

There's quite a few Irish people who are happy to stay silent and offer no criticism of the UVF and other loyalist paramilitaries.

The "The entire conflict in the North was the IRA and nobody else" crowd.

wiseoldelf34 · 03-09-2014 09:13PM

the loyalists were animals too.the only differece was that the republicans were more articulate

Tail Docker · 03-09-2014 10:43PM

wiseoldelf34 wrote: »

the loyalists were animals too.the only differece was that the republicans were more articulate

Worser, in a better way?? You've lost me there tbh, nothing new really, but carry on.

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