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Going Low Carb

  • 28-08-2014 6:15pm
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭Chancer3001


    Meat and veg.

    Veg and meat.

    Salad with veg and meats.

    Eggs and meat.

    Rinse and repeat for ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 925 ✭✭✭RHJ


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭NinetyForNone


    quiet a few recipe blogs out there. google them.
    like theclothesmakethegirl-dot-com/recipes-index/

    Also free kindle books on Amazon search for paleo and order by price low-high.

    * I can't post links. replace -dot- with a '.'


  • Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭leanbh


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭homemadecider


    FYI chickpeas are really high in carbohydrates.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭leanbh


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    leanbh wrote: »
    Lentils are low cost low carb and high in protein. You can eat very well and cheaply on a low carb diet. In fact it can be cheaper than standard diet!
    Porridge for breakfast is way cheaper than processed cereal!
    I went low carb about 3 years ago and my weight dropped and stayed off. More importantly my energy levels rose dramatically!! No more 3 o'clock slump.
    Be aware that when you reduce sugars first you might have withdrawal symptoms! Eg getting irritable , tired , headaches.
    This shouldn't last for longer than a few days but it can be difficult.
    Don't have a book but check out any low gi diet books it's the same thing.
    Also try chickpeas cheap and great low carb food. Good luck!

    Porridge is high carb.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    leanbh wrote: »
    Chickpeas s *have* carbs, but they are also a good source of protein, fiber and nutrients. Few foods provide only one macronutrient and fit into neat Low carb prescribed categories. If you are trying to limit carbs, concentrate on limiting refined ones like white flour and white sugar (and the nutrient-stripped products made from them.) Unrefined, complex carbs like whole grains, fruits, vegetable and legumes like chickpeas are good for you and are your body's preferred fuel.

    This is total bull. Few foods fit low carb? Meat, fish, eggs, dairy, green veg etc.

    Fat is the the body's preferred fuel not carbohydrate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭MaceFace


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    This is total bull. Few foods fit low carb? Meat, fish, eggs, dairy, green veg etc.

    Fat is the the body's preferred fuel not carbohydrate.

    To be fair, a low carb (<50g/day) diet is quite restrictive. It's fine if you like eating meat/eggs/salad all the time but the list of good low carb foods is not very large (example).
    I'd like to see you continue beyond the etc in your response to see how how far you can list. Don't think it would be that much (and I would love to be proved wrong as I like being in ketosis but find it too difficult to remain there).

    As to the comment about the body's preferred fuel source - if you are a state of ketosis, you're body does prefer (look to) fat first, but for normal diets, it is primarily glycogen (i.e. carbs).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    MaceFace wrote: »
    To be fair, a low carb (<50g/day) diet is quite restrictive. It's fine if you like eating meat/eggs/salad all the time but the list of good low carb foods is not very large (example).
    I'd like to see you continue beyond the etc in your response to see how how far you can list. Don't think it would be that much (and I would love to be proved wrong as I like being in ketosis but find it too difficult to remain there).

    As to the comment about the body's preferred fuel source - if you are a state of ketosis, you're body does prefer (look to) fat first, but for normal diets, it is primarily glycogen (i.e. carbs).

    It's not restrictive at all. 100s of options of different types of meals with meat, fish, spices, eggs, dairy, veg, nuts. Cooking is the key. What's a normal diet?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭MaceFace


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    It's not restrictive at all. 100s of options of different types of meals with meat, fish, spices, eggs, dairy, veg, nuts. Cooking is the key. What's a normal diet?

    So you have just repeated the same food stuffs as before but added spices and nuts.

    No potatoes, bread, rice, pasta, cereal, fruit, anything with sugar.
    All fine if you want to live that way but it is hard going out. Very difficult to go out for food. Even getting a lunch from a shop on any town.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    MaceFace wrote: »
    So you have just repeated the same food stuffs as before but added spices and nuts.

    No potatoes, bread, rice, pasta, cereal, fruit, anything with sugar.
    All fine if you want to live that way but it is hard going out. Very difficult to go out for food. Even getting a lunch from a shop on any town.

    You obviously can't / don't cook if you think that's restrictive. Order steak and veg. Make your own lunch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,682 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    You obviously can't / don't cook if you think that's restrictive. Order steak and veg. Make your own lunch.

    To be fair, you don't claim to go anywhere near as low as 50g carbs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    RHJ wrote: »
    Hello everyone hope all is going well :D

    I have decided I would like to try a low carb life style to both improve my health and lose a little weight.

    I have a few questions I hope you can answer

    1. Is a low carb diet expensive would someone on social welfare be able to manage the food bill every week?

    2. I am not much of a cook so I would like to get a good recipe book with clear and simple recipes here are two I have come across but I am unsure which would suit me best?

    The Big Book of Low-Carb Recipes: 365 Fast and Fabulous Dishes for Every Low-Carb Lifestyle

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1844831388/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

    The Low-Carb Gourmet

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Low-Carb-Gourmet-Karen-Barnaby/dp/1405087935/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_y

    If you have an iPad a book called real meal revolution by Tim Noakes is fantastic. It hasn't been published here yet. Other books I'd recommend are why we get fat, wheat belly and grain brain. Reading these will help you stick with it. I've two cookbooks I use- ballymaloe cookery course and Leon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    To be fair, you don't claim to go anywhere near as low as 50g carbs.

    I'd consider under 150 g to be low carb.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,682 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    I'd consider under 150 g to be low carb.

    I get that.

    Big difference between 150 and 50 though.

    I'd go below below 150 without even trying.

    50 is different.

    Not impossible or anything but not as easy as you seem to suggest it is when you comment that someone isn't able to cook if they think it's hard.

    If it was that easy, you'd be doing it yourself, no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    I get that.

    Big difference between 150 and 50 though.

    I'd go below below 150 without even trying.

    50 is different.

    Not impossible or anything but not as easy as you seem to suggest it is when you comment that someone isn't able to cook if they think it's hard.

    If it was that easy, you'd be doing it yourself, no?

    Someone else mentioned 50 g and ketosis. I was just pointing out that it's quite easy to eat low carb (under 150g) as there are loads of options. If you cook there are 100s of different dishes / meals that can be cooked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,682 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    Someone else mentioned 50 g and ketosis. I was just pointing out that it's quite easy to eat low carb (under 150g) as there are loads of options. If you cook there are 100s of different dishes / meals that can be cooked.

    No. They said <50g was restrictive. You said it wasn't if you can cook and said there are 100s of recipes.

    If you meant <150g then you might be clearer because it certainly doesn't read like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    No. They said <50g was restrictive. You said it wasn't if you can cook and said there are 100s of recipes.

    If you meant <150g then you might be clearer because it certainly doesn't read like that.

    As I said my idea of low carb is different to them. Either way 50 g isn't restrictive either as there are 100s of options for meals. My initial response was to someone who said there were limited choices for low carb.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭MaceFace


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    You obviously can't / don't cook if you think that's restrictive. Order steak and veg. Make your own lunch.

    Funny. I cook lunch and dinner every day and when on low carb also cook a fry for breakfast. Don't be to quick to make assumptions when you have zero idea. Make yourself look foolish.

    See you go out to almost any restaurant and almost every meal involves potatoes, rice, pasta or bread.
    And you say it's not restrictive.

    You didn't prepare a packed lunch and you go to any shop and you look for a bunch of cooked meat and done cheese. No fruit, no sandwiches. Those are the staples of what shops provide for lunch. Maybe a salad if your lucky.
    And you say it's not restrictive.

    Do you even understand the meaning of the word?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,682 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    As I said my idea of low carb is different to them. Either way 50 g isn't restrictive either as there are 100s of options for meals. My initial response was to someone who said there were limited choices for low carb.

    Your direct response was to someone who said <50g was restrictive. You said it wasn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    MaceFace wrote: »
    Funny. I cook lunch and dinner every day and when on low carb also cook a fry for breakfast. Don't be to quick to make assumptions when you have zero idea. Make yourself look foolish.

    See you go out to almost any restaurant and almost every meal involves potatoes, rice, pasta or bread.
    And you say it's not restrictive.

    You didn't prepare a packed lunch and you go to any shop and you look for a bunch of cooked meat and done cheese. No fruit, no sandwiches. Those are the staples of what shops provide for lunch. Maybe a salad if your lucky.
    And you say it's not restrictive.

    Do you even understand the meaning of the word?

    Foolish is thinking its restrictive. If you cook as much as you say I find it hard to believe how you find it restrictive. When you are ordering you can say please leave those foods out and give me extra veg! Buying lunch out every day is laziness. If you want to be low carb just cook it yourself. It's not restrictive if you are prepared and if you have to eat out just make good decisions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,682 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    Foolish is thinking its restrictive. If you cook as much as you say I find it hard to believe how you find it restrictive. When you are ordering you can say please leave those foods out and give me extra veg! Buying lunch out every day is laziness. If you want to be low carb just cook it yourself. It's not restrictive if you are prepared and if you have to eat out just make good decisions.

    <50g carbs = restrictive.
    <150g carbs = not restrictive.

    And I don't know why you don't regularly go below 50g yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭mickman


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    If you have an iPad a book called real meal revolution by Tim Noakes is fantastic. It hasn't been published here yet. Other books I'd recommend are why we get fat, wheat belly and grain brain. Reading these will help you stick with it. I've two cookbooks I use- ballymaloe cookery course and Leon.

    I read grain brain. Then I read the book he wrote begire grain brain saying that whole grains were superb for you and had to be eaten

    Clearly another guy who latches on to the latest research and spits out a book on if


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    mickman wrote: »
    I read grain brain. Then I read the book he wrote begire grain brain saying that whole grains were superb for you and had to be eaten

    Clearly another guy who latches on to the latest research and spits out a book on if

    What was that book called?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    <50g carbs = restrictive.
    <150g carbs = not restrictive.

    And I don't know why you don't regularly go below 50g yourself.

    What's restrictive to one person is not restrictive to another. Not sure what your second point is about as the thread is not about how many carbs I eat. Anyway, probably some days below 50 and some days above depending on what's eaten.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭mickman


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    What was that book called?

    The better brain book. For example page 62 "replace them with real food such as unprocessed while grains loaded with brain boosting b vitamins"

    Whereas in grain brain he says that all grains are going to kill you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    mickman wrote: »
    The better brain book. For example page 62 "replace them with real food such as unprocessed while grains loaded with brain boosting b vitamins"

    Whereas in grain brain he says that all grains are going to kill you

    I see. Has he ever addressed this?

    I suppose people are allowed to change their views though e.g. Tim Noakes who admitted he was wrong in the past.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,685 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    leanbh wrote: »
    Few foods provide only one macronutrient and fit into neat Low carb prescribed categories.
    Not really.
    All meats, cheese, fat sources are all mono-macro. And suitable for LC diets.
    Add to that non-starchy veg.
    Unrefined, complex carbs like whole grains, fruits, vegetable and legumes like chickpeas are good for you and are your body's preferred fuel.
    Maybe, maybe not. But they arent suitable for a low carb diet.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭mickman


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    I see. Has he ever addressed this?

    I suppose people are allowed to change their views though e.g. Tim Noakes who admitted he was wrong in the past.

    Didn't see any part in grain brain saying he changed his mind.

    I'd take his advice with a pinch of salt. Do what works for you

    A mostly veg / meat diet with some bread and dairy works for me . Key is getting quality products

    A neighbour of mine is 103 years old . He has eaten bread / potatoes ALL his life


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭Candy_Girl


    RHJ wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Back to the OP - No it's not expensive it's just a diet that requires more prep and thought as it can get boring easily if you are not prepared... herbs and spices are your friend, stock up also on nuts and berries for snacks.

    You don't really need to buy a cook book as Google search will give you enough recipes, try facebook also if you're on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 925 ✭✭✭RHJ


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭ford2600


    Rob I eat lchf, more out of curiosity than anything at start but 12 months on I wll keep it up to a certain extent.

    On cost, steaks, chicken breasts, lamb chops are expensive cuts and when grilled you can lose some of the nutritional benefit.

    For meat get to know a good butcher and buy the cheapest cuts of lamb, and beef. Lamb neck cooked slow with onion garlic stock salt pepper and a little spice is outstanding. By slow I mean 4-10 hrs at a low heat circa 100C.

    If butcher is any good he will leave cuts aside for you. Cook the bones and all, marrow slow cooked is very tasty and full of good fats.

    Lambs liver is cheap and a nutritional motherload.

    Having said that, I eat meat 3/4 times a week and eat 60% fat. Calorie for calorie with nearly any food olive oil is great value even for decent quality. I buy it in 5 L drums. It probably accounts for 10-15% of my total calorific intake.

    Coconut and a little butter are also mainstays of diet with nuts, avacado etc.

    Eggs to me are key. Huge variety in how to cook them and great nutrition without being expensive.

    Don't worry about ketosis for now, if at all, and be sure to keep decent fruit in diet.Bring veg way up. Buy whatever is cheap, fry in coconut and cover with olive oil and some salt and it becomes an enjoyable part of diet while keeping fibre niacin etc etc in diet.

    Above all listen to your body and fcuk the lads selling you something. You will know best.

    Good luck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭ford2600


    Just to add find a fish wholesaler, buy what's cheap learn to cook chowder, fish stew galician style or whatever. Even paella with a little rice, adding chorizo for fat and flavour.

    Seafood mix is fine for stews/chowder


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    I only have a tiny little fridge/freezer so I find it difficult to buy in bulk, for instance my local butcher does 5 chicken fillets for a fiver, however I have to cook it all at once because there's no space to freeze it. If I had the money, I would definitely invest in a mini freezer. A friend has one and she can cook meals in advance and freeze them, would be really handy for a low carb diet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    <50g carbs = restrictive.
    <150g carbs = not restrictive.

    And I don't know why you don't regularly go below 50g yourself.

    I've been trying out this <=50g carb for 4 or 5 days a week for the past 2 weeks and it is pretty restrictive .

    You do need to think and plan ahead your meals but it is very possible.

    Just try to reduce it as much as you can , even 100 or 150 would be a good starting point , no point jumping into the deep end and giving up because it's unsustainable and too much work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,682 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    papu wrote: »
    I've been trying out this <=50g carb for 4 or 5 days a week for the past 2 weeks and it is pretty restrictive .

    You do need to think and plan ahead your meals but it is very possible.

    Just try to reduce it as much as you can , even 100 or 150 would be a good starting point , no point jumping into the deep end and giving up because it's unsustainable and too much work.

    Exactly.

    Good podcast on carb intake here (credit again to conzy on the linkage) and the it's all in the calories and macros vs low-carb debate.

    Well worth a listen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭CaptainAhab


    Here is an article on low-carb diets recently published in the New York Times - the science appears to be getting some traction.

    I cannot link direct as I don't have the post count but you will find it by searching 'A Call for a Low-Carb Diet' and 'New York Times'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    Here is an article on low-carb diets recently published in the New York Times - the science appears to be getting some traction.

    I cannot link direct as I don't have the post count but you will find it by searching 'A Call for a Low-Carb Diet' and 'New York Times'.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/02/health/low-carb-vs-low-fat-diet.html?_r=0

    The Study http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1900694
    TLDR; latest study from NIH (150 participants, 1 year) shows low carbohydrate dieters lose more than low fat, with no restriction on calories, lipid profiles improve.

    interesting part of that study

    By the end of the yearlong trial, people in the low-carbohydrate group had lost about eight pounds more on average than those in the low-fat group. They had significantly greater reductions in body fat than the low-fat group, and improvements in lean muscle mass — even though neither group changed their levels of physical activity.

    While the low-fat group did lose weight, they appeared to lose more muscle than fat.

    “They actually lost lean muscle mass, which is a bad thing,” Dr. Mozaffarian said. “Your balance of lean mass versus fat mass is much more important than weight. And that’s a very important finding that shows why the low-carb, high-fat group did so metabolically well.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,682 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Just as a point of note, the participants not having diabetes or CVD is not the same as saying they were metabolically healthy which is likely to be a big factor in the effect of a low carb diet.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 852 ✭✭✭Underpaid Mike


    Just as a point of note, the participants not having diabetes or CVD is not the same as saying they were metabolically healthy which is likely to be a big factor in the effect of a low carb diet.

    Are you saying low carb is only effective for people with diabetes or CVD or am I reading this wrong?
    If thats what you are saying then you dont really understand the science behind this diet at all


  • Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭Fluxfan


    I'm confused by this thread! I always thought chickpeas were a good healthy option? I often cook a stirfry with a mountain of them in it, as a pasta or noodle replacement. thought I was doing the right thing. Also eat a lot of mixed beans in salads etc - again thought it was a good way to fill up. Am I wrong in this?

    I see a lot of people above mentioning herbs and spices? I'm not the best cook and have no idea what and how to use them, what to even buy in the supermarket. Anyone got some pointers that could be used here for those of us less blessed in the chef department? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,682 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Are you saying low carb is only effective for people with diabetes or CVD or am I reading this wrong?
    If thats what you are saying then you dont really understand the science behind this diet at all

    No, I wasn't saying that at all.

    I said that not having CVD or diabetes doesn't mean someone is necessarily metabolically healthy.

    Someone who isn't will get a therapeutic benefit that someone who is might not.

    It will work to varying degrees depending on metabolic health as opposed to only being effective for certain people.


  • Registered Users Posts: 852 ✭✭✭Underpaid Mike


    Fluxfan wrote: »
    I'm confused by this thread! I always thought chickpeas were a good healthy option? I often cook a stirfry with a mountain of them in it, as a pasta or noodle replacement. thought I was doing the right thing. Also eat a lot of mixed beans in salads etc - again thought it was a good way to fill up. Am I wrong in this?

    I see a lot of people above mentioning herbs and spices? I'm not the best cook and have no idea what and how to use them, what to even buy in the supermarket. Anyone got some pointers that could be used here for those of us less blessed in the chef department? :)

    This is not a diet based on whats "healthy/not healthy"
    This is a diet where you limit or eliminate all starch and sugar, both are quickly absorbed by the body and generate body fat at an annoying rate (from experience).
    Ive tried and failed a few times on this diet until I succeed specatularly at the start of this year. I lost around 3 stone in 5-6 months. Down from 18 stone to 15 as a 6ft3 man. I will credit 80% of my success to using myfitnesspal. It logs everything you eat and tells you how much protein, carbs and fat you are consuming. Determine what you should be consuming every day, catalog it and you will be well on your way. If you are not losing 2lbs+ a week at least from the start you are doing somethign wrong. This rate will slow to 1-2lbs after a few weeks. It has an iphone/andoid app too so you can simply scan a foods barcode and it will tell you whats in it. Also learn about calculating net carbs from food labels and grow to love the taste of olive oil and bacon as they are now your new best friends. Keep carbs below 20g for the first few weeks and you will be laughing.

    Finally on chickpeas 1 cup of chickpeas has 350 calories, 53 grams of carbs and just 60 grams of protein. DEFINITELY not suitable for a low carb diet

    As a comparison a 3 egg omlette, including 3 slices of ham, lots of spinich and cheese has the same amount of calories but just 2-3 grams of carbs. Thats the "trick" of this diet. Eating loads of the appropriate foods


  • Registered Users Posts: 852 ✭✭✭Underpaid Mike


    PS for your spices and herbs question take a look at this

    http://i.imgur.com/XRbTqkz.jpg

    Should steer you in the right direction. Do what I do, throw random stuff on whenever cooking and take note of what you like and dont like. Wont take long for you to get good at using herbs and spices after a while


  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭Betsysquared


    Hi underpaid mike. I have just started a LCHF diet and am down 5 lb after week one. I find breakfast and dinner fine but struggle at lunch. Could you post a few lunch ideas?? I don't want to over so eggs in case I get sick of them, I have them with rashers for breakfast each day.. Dinner is meat with mushrooms and broccoli or green beans and full fat philly. Lunch is a salad with salmon or cooked meat and nuts.
    Thank you and well dine on your weight loss. Very impressive and inspirational


  • Registered Users Posts: 852 ✭✭✭Underpaid Mike


    Hi underpaid mike. I have just started a LCHF diet and am down 5 lb after week one. I find breakfast and dinner fine but struggle at lunch. Could you post a few lunch ideas?? I don't want to over so eggs in case I get sick of them, I have them with rashers for breakfast each day.. Dinner is meat with mushrooms and broccoli or green beans and full fat philly. Lunch is a salad with salmon or cooked meat and nuts.
    Thank you and well dine on your weight loss. Very impressive and inspirational

    Ah nice work. What I will say is unless you read and put a bit of effort into mixing things up and tracking what you eat on an almost scientific basis, this diet (or any most likely) wont work.
    I got 99% of my inspiration and knowledge from reddit. Specifically from 2 forums
    http://www.reddit.com/r/keto/
    http://www.reddit.com/r/ketorecipes/
    Both see dozens of new posts a day with everything you would want to know about low carb. Plus loads of stuff you wouldnt want to know.

    I stopped doing low carb over the summer and probably gained 10lbs since May. I have been weight training all that time so a decent amount of that is muscle. I started low carb again on Monday and will now push to get to my final goal weight which should take about 3 more months. Cant wait.
    As an example of what I ate today

    Breakfast - 3 eggs, 3 slices of ham, 40ml double cream. Microwaved along with coffee and double cream x2
    Lunch - Spanish meat platter along with a variety of hard cheeses
    Dinner - Steak and as much brocolli as I can eat

    My breakfast rarely changes because I love eggs and ham/bacon.
    Lunch options would be tuna salad/Stir fry from night before/burritto bowl/carvery burger or other meat with loads green veg
    That would be the case if I was buying lunch, if I was making my own then literally the choice is endless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,385 ✭✭✭✭D'Agger


    I'm finding for dinners that I'll make alot of plain steak / chicken dishes with brocolli & sweet potato

    However, I enjoy beef & chicken stir fry dishes from the butchers near work which I'd normally have with tilda basmati rice. Should I be looking at other alternatives or is rice deemed okay?

    At this stage I've pretty much cut out bread, sugar is the next thing to get rid of - been drinking tea alot lately - need to revert to green tea so I'm not taking in sugar!


  • Registered Users Posts: 852 ✭✭✭Underpaid Mike


    This works for me (might not work for everyone)
    2+ liters of water a day and at least 3 cups of coffee. Both natural appetite suppressants. If I want something sweet its coke zero (can drink as much as you like but you will have a large dentist bill at some stage) and 95% cocoa dark chocolate.

    For dinners and lunches it means you really have to preplan and not just see what happens on the day as I used to do. Buy in bulk, cook like an industrial chef and make numerous portions always at hand so you never need to stray because you cant face cooking. Also absolutely no cheat days. If you do then it takes 3+ days to get back into ketosis and begin to burn fat again.
    Alcohol was a huge issue for me, loved nothing more than a few random pints a lot during the week. Instead ive moved to whiskey and ice or even gin or vodka and diet coke. Word of warning though hangovers are chronic when you dont eat carbs

    This is a bit sciency but its by a doctor and its brilliant. Came across him after watching his Ted talk which I think everyone should see



    http://eatingacademy.com/


  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭Betsysquared


    Hi again.

    So I am still ploughing away at low carb, doing fine. Currently have an almighty sore throat and am putting it down to just being a bit run down from the diet. However, sore throat I can cope with, I have had quite bad insomnia for the last three or four nights. I go to bed exhausted at my usual time and wake up about 4 or 5 hours later and can't sleep for an hour or two. The of course I am back asleep and its time to get up! Also, I am having quite vivid dreams and have songs on repeat in my head when I wake. Anyone have any idea? Is it the lack of carb?


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