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Deise Greenway. Cycle path. Waterford City to Dungarvan.

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  • #52
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,512 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »
    The main concern I have been told about is the 'risk of spread of disease to livestock'. As the old railway line passes through farmland throughout the centre of the county it allows access to farm livestock by anyone who strays from the pathway or any pets they may have.

    Any of the details on show regarding the green way don't show boundary fencing which would prohibit this rouge access, and therefore will not stop the spread of disease from one farm to another. This wasn't a problem when the pathway was used as a railway line as the public were not encouraged to use it for recreational purposes.

    As one farmer pointed out to me, 'it isn't the normal person, but the ignorant ones that cause the problems' he used the analogy that the beaches in the county can be used for walking dogs but they have to be on a leash, every single day you can see dogs on the beaches that are not on leashes.

    A rather lame argument, maybe they should 'take in the roads' to quote Fr Ted, to limit the spread of disease as the public roads frequently bound farmland.
    Likewise, farmers aren't that bothered about fishermen and hunters who, with or without permission, go from farm to farm with what they do.

    With the North Kerry GST, having been on it a few times, I didn't see any people traipsing around adjacent farmland at all. Everyone stuck to the trail.


  • #53
    Cabaal
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    Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »
    The main concern I have been told about is the 'risk of spread of disease to livestock'. As the old railway line passes through farmland throughout the centre of the county it allows access to farm livestock by anyone who strays from the pathway or any pets they may have.

    Any of the details on show regarding the green way don't show boundary fencing which would prohibit this rouge access, and therefore will not stop the spread of disease from one farm to another. This wasn't a problem when the pathway was used as a railway line as the public were not encouraged to use it for recreational purposes.

    So I'm guessing that due to these concerns farmers are against any new road construction up and down the country for the exact same reasons?

    If inadequate boundary fencing is such a concern then from my own experience alot of farmers are pretty negligent in this regard as they are happy to use barb wire fencing which has massive gaps in it and/or fail to maintain proper fencing at all, this situations allow animals and humans to very easily pass through from public roads and/or other farmer fields.

    I'm also curious what disease are of concern exactly?


  • #54
    Poor Uncle Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,546 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    whisky_galore wrote: »
    A rather lame argument, maybe they should 'take in the roads' to quote Fr Ted, to limit the spread of disease as the public roads frequently bound farmland.
    Cabaal wrote: »
    So I'm guessing that due to these concerns farmers are against any new road construction up and down the country for the exact same reasons?

    You both seem to be missing the point, if a new road were being put in place the Authorities would sit down with landowners and discuss the new boundaries to be put in place, all this would be agreed before any works would be done.

    Why is that not the case here? The old boundaries for the most part are not fit for the new purpose.
    whisky_galore wrote: »
    Likewise, farmers aren't that bothered about fishermen and hunters who, with or without permission, go from farm to farm with what they do.

    That's a rather large brush you are using there, not all farms have rivers and from those that do, not all farmers allow fishing or hunting.
    whisky_galore wrote: »
    With the North Kerry GST, having been on it a few times, I didn't see any people traipsing around adjacent farmland at all.Everyone stuck to the trail.

    So we can take it from that that you are stating no one ever trespassed off the North Kerry GST, because you didn't see it when you were there....:rolleyes:
    Cabaal wrote: »
    If inadequate boundary fencing is such a concern then from my own experience alot of farmers are pretty negligent in this regard as they are happy to use barb wire fencing which has massive gaps in it and/or fail to maintain proper fencing at all, this situations allow animals and humans to very easily pass through from public roads and/or other farmer fields.

    I have no doubt that this is happening but I would say that is the exception rather than the rule. If any landowner had that blasé attitude they wouldn't have the concerns I am referring to. I am talking about the responsible landowners who care about protecting their stock.
    Cabaal wrote: »
    I'm also curious what disease are of concern exactly?

    Any disease that can be carried and spread from one animal to another.
    Neosporosis or Sarcocystosis are just 2 that come to mind right away.

    http://www.nfus.org.uk/uploadedFiles/Campaigns/Disease%20in%20Livestock.pdf


  • #55
    Max Powers
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    spinal column in a bap baguette


  • #56
    whisky_galore
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    For your infomation, Mr Rolly eyes, met by chance a farmer who happened to own land right longside the GST close to Newcastle West and he was VERY happy with it, thought it was the best thing to come to the locality. No problems. He totally didn't get the Bull Mccabe-ism/Down with this Sort of Thing that was evident around Listowel direction, orchestrated by a Town Counciller who has 'interests' there I might add.

    Why would anyone WANT to deviate off trail anyway? Maybe kids might, catching collies in a small river or something, but regular walkers, runners and cyclists aren't going to be bothered.

    True not all farmers allow fishing and hunting, maybe not for disease maybe for other reasons.


  • #57
    Poor Uncle Tom
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    whisky_galore wrote: »
    For your infomation, Mr Rolly eyes, met by chance a farmer who happened to own land right longside the GST close to Newcastle West and he was VERY happy with it, thought it was the best thing to come to the locality. No problems. He totally didn't get the Bull Mccabe-ism/Down with this Sort of Thing that was evident around Listowel direction, orchestrated by a Town Counciller who has 'interests' there I might add.

    Why would anyone WANT to deviate off trail anyway? Maybe kids might, catching collies in a small river or something, but regular walkers, runners and cyclists aren't going to be bothered.

    True not all farmers allow fishing and hunting, maybe not for disease maybe for other reasons.
    I'm not saying it,s a bad thing, it can be a huge resource, but if it's being done, do it right.


  • #58
    Cabaal
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    Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »
    Why is that not the case here? The old boundaries for the most part are not fit for the new purpose.

    But they are boundaries already in place none the less,

    I'd be curious how many farmers along the old rail line have properly maintained fencing over the decades,

    I'm not saying its the case, but perhaps some farmers may not have maintained proper fencing on the basis that they believed they didn't need to as no person or machine was using the route anymore so it wasn't a big deal if a cow etc go onto the line. Perhaps a person could be annoyed now because they are now required to maintain things again and this costs them money.


    Any disease that can be carried and spread from one animal to another.
    Neosporosis or Sarcocystosis are just 2 that come to mind right away.

    Sarcocystosis? So you want nets over fields then I'm guessing?
    Given birds can have it, also we should restrict deer?

    Neosporosis, so you want to restrict all animals and humans then? Deer etc shouldn't be allowed to move around the Irish countryside...you know, just in case.

    I'm not seeing the issue here, as long as farmers have properly maintained their boundaries this is really a none issue. Its really no different to if a farmer has land bordering a public road.

    As already pointed out the vast majority of people using this route are on the route to use it, they won't be on it to walk across fields. The same can be said for usage of any public road, majority of people are on it to use the road....but of course you'll always get somebody who might wounder into a field for whatever reason.


  • #59
    Poor Uncle Tom
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    Cabaal wrote: »
    But they are boundaries already in place none the less,

    I'd be curious how many farmers along the old rail line have properly maintained fencing over the decades,

    I'm not saying its the case, but perhaps some farmers may not have maintained proper fencing on the basis that they believed they didn't need to as no person or machine was using the route anymore so it wasn't a big deal if a cow etc go onto the line. Perhaps a person could be annoyed now because they are now required to maintain things again and this costs them money.

    There's a difference between a farmer providing stock proof fencing to keep his/her animals on their own landholding and with providing fencing to keep pets/dogs off their lands.

    The existing fencing on the railway line can not and will not cater for the latter. Remember it is not the farmers/landowners who are introducing a new use for the old railway line here. Whoever is responsible for introducing the change of use of the line should also be responsible for any ancillary works associated with it also, that includes the necessary fencing to control the added risk of spread of disease, simple.
    Cabaal wrote: »
    Sarcocystosis? So you want nets over fields then I'm guessing?
    Given birds can have it, also we should restrict deer?

    Neosporosis, so you want to restrict all animals and humans then? Deer etc shouldn't be allowed to move around the Irish countryside...you know, just in case.

    I think your facetious comments overlook the real issue which is the ADDED risk from the new use of the old railway line, not the current risk from extranuous sources.
    Cabaal wrote: »
    I'm not seeing the issue here,

    Look a little harder, it's there.
    Cabaal wrote: »
    As already pointed out the vast majority of people using this route are on the route to use it, they won't be on it to walk across fields.

    Again, I think you are missing the point, it isn't the people per se, but their furry companions which can be the problem and all it can take is one. If the effort is put in by the authorities now there needen't be that one.


  • #60
    Cabaal
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    Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »
    There's a difference between a farmer providing stock proof fencing to keep his/her animals on their own landholding and with providing fencing to keep pets/dogs off their lands.

    Indeed there is,

    Yet strangely you'll find most of the fencing used by farmers boarder public roads isn't suitable to keep pets/dogs off their land. Why is that? ;)

    What it sounds like you want is this:
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    Yet this is one of the types of fencing I've seen farmers and the council put up, it hasn't a chance of stopping a human or dog. Its especially popular on new roads and improvements to existing roads.

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    Lets not forget that its more common to see this type of barb fencing on more rural roads. They don't stop dogs but they certainly make it more awkward and unsafe for a human to get over them.

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    and if it isn't fencing then its a hedge growth which farmers must maintain by law,


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  • #61
    Smiley Burnett
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Smiley Burnett


    lads, ye seem to be forgetting that part of this walk/greenway has operated very successfully for the past number of years in the Dungarvan/Ballinacourty area....There are no issues with trespassing/animal-disease/trespass etc...the new deise greenway will be fantastic...p.s. there are none of these issues in Mayo either, where the FARMERS came together and developed the greenway!!!!


  • #62
    Poor Uncle Tom
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    Cabaal wrote: »
    Indeed there is,

    Yet strangely you'll find most of the fencing used by farmers boarder public roads isn't suitable to keep pets/dogs off their land. Why is that? ;)
    Your argument seems to be based on a false premise, because most of the fencing is inadequate then it's acceptable to continue on this line, well I don't think it is.

    Also, I think you'll find other types of fencing which could be considered pet/dog proof.




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    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS9GOdzJO2t2kJcGoK4TaI6juz17UZqd3fV5aBdjLX89kh4iHaG

    Any of these would be rural in character and I think you'll find this type of fencing as prevalant in the countryside as the examples you picked out.
    Cabaal wrote: »
    What it sounds like you want is this:

    Just to be clear here, I don't WANT anything, I have no vested interests here, I am merely pointing out a concern as I was asked to do.

    Someone from the Greenway came on stating that works were nearly ready to start and I pointed out that the discussions with the adjacent landowners which were promised by the authorities never materialised to address the landowners concerns.
    Smiley Burnett wrote: »
    lads, ye seem to be forgetting that part of this walk/greenway has operated very successfully for the past number of years in the Dungarvan/Ballinacourty area....There are no issues with trespassing/animal-disease/trespass etc...the new deise greenway will be fantastic...

    Most of the already operating part is through relatively urban area from Dungarvan to Ballinroad traversing mostly urban and cropping areas. The remaining miles of line area to the City boundary is through rural countryside and should be viewed differently.
    Smiley Burnett wrote: »
    p.s. there are none of these issues in Mayo either, where the FARMERS came together and developed the greenway!!!!

    Now there's a thought, why can't the authorities sit down with the landowners and discuss this........
    why hasn't someone thought of that?.......:D


  • #63
    Fate Amenable To Change
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    Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »
    Can you elaborate on the 'more employment' part of the above regurgitated expression please.

    Shops and pubs near the greenway would likely experience increased custom, possible tourism shops like bike rentals/camping equipment etc.


  • #64
    askwhat youcando foryourcountry
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭askwhat youcando foryourcountry


    Anyone know what is happening with greenway. All the fanfare earlier in the year and now it seems it's stalled again. Are objecting landowners still stalling it by dragging their heels? Between €30 to €50 million of spending has been lost to our county over the past decade when this greenway should have been up and going. Are there still people who consider themselves good Waterford folk still holding our county to ransom!!


  • #65
    whisky_galore
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    Don't know why the Achill project can't be used as a template for elsewhere, what did they do right?

    Maybe one thing that's going for them is the value of the land around there, and let's be fair, it's marginal land.
    Sheep and rocks, pretty much.


  • #66
    deisegreenway
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭deisegreenway


    Hi all, to their credit, the council have been working away in the background and are in final negotiations with a few adjoining land owners. This will allow the project to get underway very soon, with everyone on board.

    Funding for the Waterford to Kilmeaden section was allocated for the purpose of "region stimulus" and will get underway within weeks.

    The Western Greenway from Westport to Achill is a fantastic route and a huge attraction for the Mayo region. However, it's operated on the basis that landowners allow you to pass through their land, which they can revoke at any time (as threatened this week). We, just a group of everyday punters, have repeatedly pointed out to the council that the Deise Greenway must not operate on this model. Instead, the route must be owned outright by the council. The good news is that the council itself is of the same opinion but this future-proof model takes a bit longer to sort out.

    So all in all, you can rest assured that the greenway is edging ever closer to getting started and new sections will be open in 2015. As a group, we won't be letting it rest until it's fully finished from Waterford to Dungarvan and is the best it can possibly be (route taken, aesthetics, accessibility etc).

    The latest news is always on our Facebook page, which I can't yet post a link to (< 50 posts restriction). Hopefully you can get your friends and family to like and follow our page!


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  • #67
    JMcL
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    deisegreenway wrote: »
    The latest news is always on our Facebook page, which I can't yet post a link to (< 50 posts restriction). Hopefully you can get your friends and family to like and follow our page!

    Deise Greenway Facebook page


  • #68
    Andalucia
    Registered Users Posts: 553 ✭✭✭Andalucia


    deisegreenway wrote: »
    Hi all, to their credit, the council have been working away in the background and are in final negotiations with a few adjoining land owners. This will allow the project to get underway very soon, with everyone on board.

    Funding for the Waterford to Kilmeaden section was allocated for the purpose of "region stimulus" and will get underway within weeks.

    The Western Greenway from Westport to Achill is a fantastic route and a huge attraction for the Mayo region. However, it's operated on the basis that landowners allow you to pass through their land, which they can revoke at any time (as threatened this week). We, just a group of everyday punters, have repeatedly pointed out to the council that the Deise Greenway must not operate on this model. Instead, the route must be owned outright by the council. The good news is that the council itself is of the same opinion but this future-proof model takes a bit longer to sort out.

    So all in all, you can rest assured that the greenway is edging ever closer to getting started and new sections will be open in 2015. As a group, we won't be letting it rest until it's fully finished from Waterford to Dungarvan and is the best it can possibly be (route taken, aesthetics, accessibility etc).

    The latest news is always on our Facebook page, which I can't yet post a link to (< 50 posts restriction). Hopefully you can get your friends and family to like and follow our page!

    Is it true that major parts of this project are now on the back burner again owing to legal cases being taken? Any idea when these court cases will take place? Shame really that a couple of local farmers can ruin this facility. What I don't understand is if it is following a route on which a train previously operated, how can the landowners claim entitlement to any part of the greenway?

    Also, the existing track from Abbeyside to Ballinroad is fantastic, expect for the part after the crossing at the Gold Coast road - how in the name of God was a three foot wide path signed off by all concerned, without any lights as opposed to the rest of the route also - the train didn't fit through that - it appears that the owner of the former railway cottage just extended their garden over the railway line and was allowed to maintain it


  • #69
    deisegreenway
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭deisegreenway


    Andalucia wrote: »
    Is it true that major parts of this project are now on the back burner again owing to legal cases being taken?

    We're not aware that anything has changed...negotiations and arrangements are being finalised.


  • #70
    deisegreenway
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭deisegreenway


    Andalucia wrote: »
    Also, the existing track from Abbeyside to Ballinroad is fantastic, expect for the part after the crossing at the Gold Coast road - how in the name of God was a three foot wide path signed off by all concerned, without any lights as opposed to the rest of the route also - the train didn't fit through that - it appears that the owner of the former railway cottage just extended their garden over the railway line and was allowed to maintain it

    This narrow path was always just a temporary arrangement, this section will be widened and upgraded as part of the upcoming works being done elsewhere on the greenway.


  • #71
    deisegreenway
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭deisegreenway


    The council made a big announcement this week by stating on WLR that they expect the Waterford to Kilmeaden and Ballinroad to Durrow sections to be open next summer. These are around 10km apiece with far less engineering work required on the western section than on the eastern.


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  • #72
    deisegreenway
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭deisegreenway


    Just to clarify, Dungarvan to Durrow including the extension will be 10km...edit button doesn't work!


  • #73
    Stokolan
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    Great news, I cant wait for this to open fully!


  • #74
    STIG83
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    Has construction begun on it?


  • #75
    deisegreenway
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭deisegreenway


    STIG83 wrote: »
    Has construction begun on it?

    Yes work started on some sections a couple of weeks ago, scrub had to be removed and surveying on 3 main sections is ongoing. There are 3 crossings of the N25 to be constructed (two underpasses and one bridge) so there's a lot of prep work needed. Because these areas are awkward to get at and generally not visible from the road, we didn't put up any photos.

    As soon as the more obvious work gets underway, photos will be on Facebook and our website.

    Tenders for various pieces of work continue to be raised by the council so it's all moving along in the background.


  • #76
    deisegreenway
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭deisegreenway


    deisegreenway wrote: »
    Yes work started on some sections a couple of weeks ago, scrub had to be removed and surveying on 3 main sections is ongoing. There are 3 crossings of the N25 to be constructed (two underpasses and one bridge) so there's a lot of prep work needed. Because these areas are awkward to get at and generally not visible from the road, we didn't put up any photos.

    As soon as the more obvious work gets underway, photos will be on Facebook and our website.

    Tenders for various pieces of work continue to be raised by the council so it's all moving along in the background.

    A photo of the clearance work in Kilmacthomas has been posted on our Facebook page (I don't think we can post it here as <50 posts). There's also signs of life at Bilberry, photo also on our FB page.

    It's building up for serious work to be done in January and it'll need to be if the council's June completion date is to materialise.


  • #77
    Finnbar01
    Registered Users Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭Finnbar01


    deisegreenway wrote: »
    A photo of the clearance work in Kilmacthomas has been posted on our Facebook page (I don't think we can post it here as <50 posts). There's also signs of life at Bilberry, photo also on our FB page.

    It's building up for serious work to be done in January and it'll need to be if the council's June completion date is to materialise.

    Any plans for a few dogging sites on the route?


  • #78
    deisegreenway
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭deisegreenway


    Finnbar01 wrote: »
    Any plans for a few dogging sites on the route?

    The greenway does go through a place called Woodstown but I think you have the wrong one in mind Finnbar!!


  • #79
    deisegreenway
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭deisegreenway


    Quick update...work is well underway on the Kilmeaden to Bilberry section, in at least 3 places...Kilmeaden, Mount Congreve and Carriganore. Still trying to reach 50 posts so we can post photos but rest assured, the greenway is on its way!


  • #80
    TheSelf
    Registered Users Posts: 88 ✭✭TheSelf


    Can the public access parts of it yet?


  • #81
    royrogers
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    deisegreenway wrote: »
    Quick update...work is well underway on the Kilmeaden to Bilberry section, in at least 3 places...Kilmeaden, Mount Congreve and Carriganore. Still trying to reach 50 posts so we can post photos but rest assured, the greenway is on its way!

    Is there any plans to do the Ferrybank to New Ross line. I know they cleared it off sometime ago but nothing more happened.


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  • #82
    whisky_galore
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    royrogers wrote: »
    Is there any plans to do the Ferrybank to New Ross line. I know they cleared it off sometime ago but nothing more happened.

    The briars are starting to grow back again on it.


  • #83
    deisegreenway
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭deisegreenway


    TheSelf wrote: »
    Can the public access parts of it yet?

    No it's best to steer clear of this section at the moment, it's nigh on impossible to get near it with all the machines.

    A total of 2.5km at Kilmacthomas has been cleared for inspection purposes and can be safely walked, so can the viaduct there...the surface varies from gravel to compacted soil. This will see tarmac on a future phase. A new path has also been built linking the top of the bridge to the middle of the town.
    royrogers wrote: »
    Is there any plans to do the Ferrybank to New Ross line. I know they cleared it off sometime ago but nothing more happened.
    This was cleared only for inspection purposes and to allow them to assess the route and determine a cost for converting it to a greenway. In December, it was announced that this route goes to planning in 2015 and is being driven by the WD,KK and WX councils as a joint project as it's within these 3 counties.


  • #84
    BadCharlie
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    How wide is the cycle path going to be?
    Do you know when? it will all be tarmac completed.

    I my self cycle the main road from waterford to dungarvan & back. And would love to try the path once its ready.


  • #85
    Max Powers
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    this whole thing sounds fantastic, just a little bit concerned about the section down there on Bilberry, its not the most beautiful/welcoming place, hopefully something can be done to make it better.


  • #86
    deisegreenway
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭deisegreenway


    BadCharlie wrote: »
    How wide is the cycle path going to be?
    Do you know when? it will all be tarmac completed.

    I my self cycle the main road from waterford to dungarvan & back. And would love to try the path once its ready.

    It'll be between 2 and 4 meters wide on the Kilmeaden to Waterford section. This is because of either the positioning of the railway track in relation to the overall width OR restrictions due to cuts/embankments. It should achieve 4 meters from Kilmeaden to Dungarvan.

    Timelines...all we know is the council aim to have Waterford to Kilmeaden and Dungarvan to Durrow finished by June 2015...with full tarmac. The middle section, which includes Kilmacthomas, has some complicated N25 crossings that are currently in the tendering process. This will allow for a cost analysis and then an application for funding.

    If the Waterford City section is used as much as the existing Dungarvan to Ballinroad section, it'll put serious pressure on the council to get the middle section completed.


  • #87
    deisegreenway
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭deisegreenway


    Max Powers wrote: »
    this whole thing sounds fantastic, just a little bit concerned about the section down there on Bilberry, its not the most beautiful/welcoming place, hopefully something can be done to make it better.

    We'd the first to agree with you......in our planning submission, we pointed out to the council that Bilberry is not a logical starting point for a jewel-in-the-crown greenway and it must be run in as far as Rice Bridge for many different reasons. The good news is that they're a step ahead and have this very high on their to-do list. To fully achieve its potential, the greenway must be linked to the city.


  • #88
    my3cents
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    I was just wondering what is being done about the Japanese Knotweed on some parts of the track, in one area it looks like its just been bulldozed which will only increase and spread the problem?

    It doesn't look like any of the procedures listed at Invasive Species Ireland have been followed at the old Kildermody level crossing.


  • #89
    deisegreenway
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭deisegreenway


    my3cents wrote: »
    I was just wondering what is being done about the Japanese Knotweed on some parts of the track, in one area it looks like its just been bulldozed which will only increase and spread the problem?

    Hi my3cents, you'd have to contact the council's environmental team about this, none of us here would know enough about it.


  • #90
    deisegreenway
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭deisegreenway


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    Kilmeaden


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    Possible new carpark near Mount Congreve


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    New access road near Mount Congreve


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    Gorse and briars cut back to original ditch near Mount Congreve


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    Well underway near WIT


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  • #91
    thomasm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭thomasm


    royrogers wrote: »
    Is there any plans to do the Ferrybank to New Ross line. I know they cleared it off sometime ago but nothing more happened.

    There is a thread on this Royrogers with more detail
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056835578

    Also recent info here
    http://www.independent.ie/regionals/newrossstandard/news/3m-red-bridge-walkway-boost-30847046.html


  • #92
    STIG83
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭STIG83


    Just passed the level crossing at Carroll's Cross, I see the vegetation has been cleared on the Dungarvan side , is it going through the disused quarry?


  • #93
    comeraghs
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    Looks like good progress is being made!


  • #94
    deisegreenway
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭deisegreenway


    STIG83 wrote: »
    Just passed the level crossing at Carroll's Cross, I see the vegetation has been cleared on the Dungarvan side , is it going through the disused quarry?

    We havent heard otherwise!

    Super progress all round, the line has effectively been cleared end to end. There'll be serious amounts of work going on over the next 12 months, on all sections of the 48km.


  • #95
    AviationUK
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭AviationUK


    Does anybody know when the Waterford stretch will open up? I can't wait to take the kids out down it!


  • #96
    JMcL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭JMcL


    AviationUK wrote: »
    Does anybody know when the Waterford stretch will open up? I can't wait to take the kids out down it!

    Same here! As to when it's due to open, I stand to be corrected, but from talking in the past week to somebody directly involved on the council side, it's looking like autumn. The main issue is some structural works that need to be done which can't happen when the railway is operating. With the railway starting up on the 1st May, and running until September, my understanding is that they can't get all they need to do done this month. Come September 1st though, I believe the intention is to get in and get it done quickly as possible, weeks rather than months being the order of the day. It's a pity, I'd hoped to be able to get the kids out on it over the summer, but I still think it'll have been a great achievement to have it all brought to fruition in 9-10 months


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  • #97
    Beeker
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    From what I hear Waterford to Kilmeaden will open in November.


  • #98
    deisegreenway
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭deisegreenway


    It'll definitely be after the summer which is still an amazing achievement. It's a very tight space to work in safely and to their credit, the Waterford & Suir Valley Railway have sacrificed many weeks of their schedule to allow work to proceed.

    It's very exciting to see the venture at this stage of construction and it only needs to be built once, then we'll all be able to enjoy it all year round, forevermore!!


  • #99
    obezyana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭obezyana


    I cant wait for this to open :) its great for Waterford. I was recently out in the Anne Valley walk in Dunhill and that is fantastic aswell. Its good to see all these outdoor walkways being created and maintained. :)


  • #100
    rogshan
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭rogshan


    You can cycle from Kilmeaden to the tunnel under the N25. Its just that for some of it you are cycling on loose stones beside the railway track (e.g. beside Mount Congreve) or on a strip of grass beside the track. The ride is also very bumpy in parts. Also your not meant to cycle as it is a construction site but at weekends there are people walking.


  • #101
    JMcL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭JMcL


    rogshan wrote: »
    You can cycle from Kilmeaden to the tunnel under the N25. Its just that for some of it you are cycling on loose stones beside the railway track (e.g. beside Mount Congreve) or on a strip of grass beside the track. The ride is also very bumpy in parts. Also your not meant to cycle as it is a construction site but at weekends there are people walking.

    I really would advise not going on it Monday-Friday when work is ongoing. Carraiganore is one of the main works access points and there's a steady stream of tipper trucks going in there a lot of the time. These more often than not end up reversing up the track to wherever they need to dump their load so meeting one coming backwards towards me in a tight space wouldn't be my idea of fun.


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