Deise Greenway. Cycle path. Waterford City to Dungarvan.

Cabaal wrote: »

Indeed there is,

Yet strangely you'll find most of the fencing used by farmers boarder public roads isn't suitable to keep pets/dogs off their land. Why is that?

Your argument seems to be based on a false premise, because most of the fencing is inadequate then it's acceptable to continue on this line, well I don't think it is.

Also, I think you'll find other types of fencing which could be considered pet/dog proof.








Any of these would be rural in character and I think you'll find this type of fencing as prevalant in the countryside as the examples you picked out.

Cabaal wrote: »

What it sounds like you want is this:

Just to be clear here, I don't WANT anything, I have no vested interests here, I am merely pointing out a concern as I was asked to do.

Someone from the Greenway came on stating that works were nearly ready to start and I pointed out that the discussions with the adjacent landowners which were promised by the authorities never materialised to address the landowners concerns.

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

lads, ye seem to be forgetting that part of this walk/greenway has operated very successfully for the past number of years in the Dungarvan/Ballinacourty area....There are no issues with trespassing/animal-disease/trespass etc...the new deise greenway will be fantastic...

Most of the already operating part is through relatively urban area from Dungarvan to Ballinroad traversing mostly urban and cropping areas. The remaining miles of line area to the City boundary is through rural countryside and should be viewed differently.

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

p.s. there are none of these issues in Mayo either, where the FARMERS came together and developed the greenway!!!!

Now there's a thought, why can't the authorities sit down with the landowners and discuss this........
why hasn't someone thought of that?.......:D

Anyone know what is happening with greenway. All the fanfare earlier in the year and now it seems it's stalled again. Are objecting landowners still stalling it by dragging their heels? Between €30 to €50 million of spending has been lost to our county over the past decade when this greenway should have been up and going. Are there still people who consider themselves good Waterford folk still holding our county to ransom!!

Hi all, to their credit, the council have been working away in the background and are in final negotiations with a few adjoining land owners. This will allow the project to get underway very soon, with everyone on board.

Funding for the Waterford to Kilmeaden section was allocated for the purpose of "region stimulus" and will get underway within weeks.

The Western Greenway from Westport to Achill is a fantastic route and a huge attraction for the Mayo region. However, it's operated on the basis that landowners allow you to pass through their land, which they can revoke at any time (as threatened this week). We, just a group of everyday punters, have repeatedly pointed out to the council that the Deise Greenway must not operate on this model. Instead, the route must be owned outright by the council. The good news is that the council itself is of the same opinion but this future-proof model takes a bit longer to sort out.

So all in all, you can rest assured that the greenway is edging ever closer to getting started and new sections will be open in 2015. As a group, we won't be letting it rest until it's fully finished from Waterford to Dungarvan and is the best it can possibly be (route taken, aesthetics, accessibility etc).

The latest news is always on our Facebook page, which I can't yet post a link to (< 50 posts restriction). Hopefully you can get your friends and family to like and follow our page!

deisegreenway wrote: »

Hi all, to their credit, the council have been working away in the background and are in final negotiations with a few adjoining land owners. This will allow the project to get underway very soon, with everyone on board.

Funding for the Waterford to Kilmeaden section was allocated for the purpose of "region stimulus" and will get underway within weeks.

The Western Greenway from Westport to Achill is a fantastic route and a huge attraction for the Mayo region. However, it's operated on the basis that landowners allow you to pass through their land, which they can revoke at any time (as threatened this week). We, just a group of everyday punters, have repeatedly pointed out to the council that the Deise Greenway must not operate on this model. Instead, the route must be owned outright by the council. The good news is that the council itself is of the same opinion but this future-proof model takes a bit longer to sort out.

So all in all, you can rest assured that the greenway is edging ever closer to getting started and new sections will be open in 2015. As a group, we won't be letting it rest until it's fully finished from Waterford to Dungarvan and is the best it can possibly be (route taken, aesthetics, accessibility etc).

The latest news is always on our Facebook page, which I can't yet post a link to (< 50 posts restriction). Hopefully you can get your friends and family to like and follow our page!

Is it true that major parts of this project are now on the back burner again owing to legal cases being taken? Any idea when these court cases will take place? Shame really that a couple of local farmers can ruin this facility. What I don't understand is if it is following a route on which a train previously operated, how can the landowners claim entitlement to any part of the greenway?

Also, the existing track from Abbeyside to Ballinroad is fantastic, expect for the part after the crossing at the Gold Coast road - how in the name of God was a three foot wide path signed off by all concerned, without any lights as opposed to the rest of the route also - the train didn't fit through that - it appears that the owner of the former railway cottage just extended their garden over the railway line and was allowed to maintain it

Andalucia wrote: »

Also, the existing track from Abbeyside to Ballinroad is fantastic, expect for the part after the crossing at the Gold Coast road - how in the name of God was a three foot wide path signed off by all concerned, without any lights as opposed to the rest of the route also - the train didn't fit through that - it appears that the owner of the former railway cottage just extended their garden over the railway line and was allowed to maintain it

This narrow path was always just a temporary arrangement, this section will be widened and upgraded as part of the upcoming works being done elsewhere on the greenway.

Just to clarify, Dungarvan to Durrow including the extension will be 10km...edit button doesn't work!

Has construction begun on it?

deisegreenway wrote: »

Yes work started on some sections a couple of weeks ago, scrub had to be removed and surveying on 3 main sections is ongoing. There are 3 crossings of the N25 to be constructed (two underpasses and one bridge) so there's a lot of prep work needed. Because these areas are awkward to get at and generally not visible from the road, we didn't put up any photos.

As soon as the more obvious work gets underway, photos will be on Facebook and our website.

Tenders for various pieces of work continue to be raised by the council so it's all moving along in the background.

A photo of the clearance work in Kilmacthomas has been posted on our Facebook page (I don't think we can post it here as <50 posts). There's also signs of life at Bilberry, photo also on our FB page.

It's building up for serious work to be done in January and it'll need to be if the council's June completion date is to materialise.

Finnbar01 wrote: »

Any plans for a few dogging sites on the route?

The greenway does go through a place called Woodstown but I think you have the wrong one in mind Finnbar!!

Can the public access parts of it yet?

royrogers wrote: »

Is there any plans to do the Ferrybank to New Ross line. I know they cleared it off sometime ago but nothing more happened.

The briars are starting to grow back again on it.

How wide is the cycle path going to be?
Do you know when? it will all be tarmac completed.

I my self cycle the main road from waterford to dungarvan & back. And would love to try the path once its ready.

BadCharlie wrote: »

How wide is the cycle path going to be?
Do you know when? it will all be tarmac completed.

I my self cycle the main road from waterford to dungarvan & back. And would love to try the path once its ready.

It'll be between 2 and 4 meters wide on the Kilmeaden to Waterford section. This is because of either the positioning of the railway track in relation to the overall width OR restrictions due to cuts/embankments. It should achieve 4 meters from Kilmeaden to Dungarvan.

Timelines...all we know is the council aim to have Waterford to Kilmeaden and Dungarvan to Durrow finished by June 2015...with full tarmac. The middle section, which includes Kilmacthomas, has some complicated N25 crossings that are currently in the tendering process. This will allow for a cost analysis and then an application for funding.

If the Waterford City section is used as much as the existing Dungarvan to Ballinroad section, it'll put serious pressure on the council to get the middle section completed.

Kilmeaden



Possible new carpark near Mount Congreve



New access road near Mount Congreve



Gorse and briars cut back to original ditch near Mount Congreve



Well underway near WIT