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Transfer Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread - Summer 2014 - Mod note in OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    I'd be shocked if he went to Atleti... Apparently the German press are treating the rumour as a complete joke. It's crazy if he leaves for a rumoured 25-30m pounds. He's worth at least double that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,503 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    Arsenal possibly in for him too , Crazy if we signed him aswell as the others we've signed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,238 ✭✭✭qwabercd


    Think Atletico would be a sideways step for him, at 25 he should be coming into his peak years soon, could go back to business as usual next season in La Liga with Real and Barca at the top

    I'd be happy if United threw money at him, but sadly United are a step down for him at the moment

    They got to the champions league final and won La Liga last year:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    qwabercd wrote: »
    They got to the champions league final and won La Liga last year:confused:

    They aren't the same team. Villa, Costa, Filipe Luís and Courtois to name a few that have left. Can't see past a Real/Barca 1-2 in La Liga and can't see Atleti getting to the final of the CL either. I'd agree, it's a sideways step and can't see it happening


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    Think Atletico would be a sideways step for him, at 25 he should be coming into his peak years soon, could go back to business as usual next season in La Liga with Real and Barca at the top

    I'd be happy if United threw money at him, but sadly United are a step down for him at the moment
    qwabercd wrote: »
    They got to the champions league final and won La Liga last year:confused:

    Yeah granted they've lost Courtois, Costa and Luis to Chelsea they've brought in Mandzukic and Griezmann...if they added Reus they'd be as strong as last year if not stronger tbh.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    qwabercd wrote: »
    They got to the champions league final and won La Liga last year:confused:

    I am aware of that

    Dortmund have got to a final and quarter final in the last two years too.

    They've lost Costa, Luis and Courtois, Real or Barca win La Liga almost every year but in the instance they don't every second year one will win it, you have to go back as far as 1982 before this becomes untrue. Both have strengthened, Barca have bought one of the best strikers in the world and good midfielders and defenders, Real have bought top class players too. I think the norm will reconvene and the top 2 will be Barca and Real again.

    It would seem like a sideways step to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    I am aware of that

    Dortmund have got to a final and quarter final in the last two years too.

    They've lost Costa, Luis and Courtois, Real or Barca win La Liga almost every year but in the instance they don't every second year one will win it, you have to go back as far as 1982 before this becomes untrue. Both have strengthened, Barca have bought one of the best strikers in the world and good midfielders and defenders, Real have bought top class players too. I think the norm will reconvene and the top 2 will be Barca and Real again.

    It would seem like a sideways step to me

    To avoid falling into Dortmund's trap, Athletico need to buy quality additions to compensate for the losses. They're attempting that with the likes of Manduzic & Griezzman brought into the squad. Bringing in Reus would help them to remain at the top of the Spanish and European game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭LostBoy101


    Reus would strengthen that squad big time but personally he is better off at Dortmund for another season at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,610 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    People will believe anything. It must be great being a football 'journalist' these days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭DildoFaggins


    Worst transfer rumour ever.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,960 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    greendom wrote: »
    To avoid falling into Dortmund's trap, Athletico need to buy quality additions to compensate for the losses. They're attempting that with the likes of Manduzic & Griezzman brought into the squad. Bringing in Reus would help them to remain at the top of the Spanish and European game.

    Dortmunds trap? They reason Dortmund were so far behind last season was a crippling injury crisis, not through selling players. The only player they lost was Goetze and that wasn't by choice. They replaced him with Mkhtaryan and Aubameyang for €38m. This season only Lewandowski left and he ran down his contract (Dortmunds choice rather than selling). They've spent €47m on Immobile, Ginter, Sahin and Ramos. They won't be selling Reus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    Villa signed Carlos Sanchez aka The Rock for £4.5m most of which has gone to third parties. Will strengthen midfield a lot and allow a platform for other players to shine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,238 ✭✭✭qwabercd


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    They aren't the same team. Villa, Costa, Filipe Luís and Courtois to name a few that have left. Can't see past a Real/Barca 1-2 in La Liga and can't see Atleti getting to the final of the CL either. I'd agree, it's a sideways step and can't see it happening

    Regardless, I think calling the 2nd best team in the world last year a sidewards step from anyone v.harsh. Nobody expected them to challenge like they did last season and i would fully trust Simeone to replace the lost players with the likes of griezmann, mandzukic etc. They obviously don't jabe the same star quality that real and barca have, but they didn't have it last year either and still won the league.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I get the feeling a lot of fortunes are going to turn on the following

    Monaco--Falcao
    Real Madrid-- Di Maria
    PSG-Lavezzi

    Real want Falcao and Falcao wants Real, but Real need to shift a non EU player out to get another one in, so Di Maria will leave. The current story is that the Argentine striker will leave on a loan to buy deal to PSG but PSG will need to move on one player themselves and Lavezzi is generally considered the most likely having refused a new contract and been naughty on twitter (!).

    Man Utd are heavily linked to Di Maria and will have to shell out a premium rate to get him it seems.

    Liverpool are supposedly interested in Falcao on loan but frankly its massively unlikely, what might be plausible is looking to get Lavezzi cheapish at the last minute plus free agent Eto'o for a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,377 ✭✭✭Smithwicks Man


    I get the feeling a lot of fortunes are going to turn on the following

    Monaco--Falcao
    Real Madrid-- Di Maria
    PSG-Lavezzi

    Real want Falcao and Falcao wants Real, but Real need to shift a non EU player out to get another one in, so Di Maria will leave. The current story is that the Argentine striker will leave on a loan to buy deal to PSG but PSG will need to move on one player themselves and Lavezzi is generally considered the most likely having refused a new contract and been naughty on twitter (!).

    Man Utd are heavily linked to Di Maria and will have to shell out a premium rate to get him it seems.

    Liverpool are supposedly interested in Falcao on loan but frankly its massively unlikely, what might be plausible is looking to get Lavezzi cheapish at the last minute plus free agent Eto'o for a year.
    Lavezzi to move to Milan at a bargain price at the end of August :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭boccy23


    Greek defender Kostas Manolas is on the brink of an £8m move to Arsenal after undergoing a medical with the north London club.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Not transfer news itself, more a question, Barca tonight revealed they paid £65million for Suarez, how come Liverpool lied about it if that was the case?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭ASOT


    kryogen wrote: »
    Not transfer news itself, more a question, Barca tonight revealed they paid £65million for Suarez, how come Liverpool lied about it if that was the case?

    They also said they paid 57m for Neymar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,911 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    kryogen wrote: »
    Not transfer news itself, more a question, Barca tonight revealed they paid £65million for Suarez, how come Liverpool lied about it if that was the case?

    1) when did Liverpool say it was more than 65m?

    2) if they did, why assume it was Liverpool lying?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭cunnifferous


    kryogen wrote: »
    Not transfer news itself, more a question, Barca tonight revealed they paid £65million for Suarez, how come Liverpool lied about it if that was the case?

    Suarez's dad got paid the difference


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    kryogen wrote: »
    Not transfer news itself, more a question, Barca tonight revealed they paid £65million for Suarez, how come Liverpool lied about it if that was the case?

    LFC never said what they got, and Barca are dodgy about how much they say they pay for players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    Tony Barret says Liverpool said they got 75m. Not sure where though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,202 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    kryogen wrote: »
    Not transfer news itself, more a question, Barca tonight revealed they paid £65million for Suarez, how come Liverpool lied about it if that was the case?

    How dare you question the integrity of Liverpool football club!

    In fairness the truth is prob somewhere between the figure that both clubs are quoting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Is the united deal Nani and 16 million or worth 16 million inc Nani?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Rojo deal is 16m apparently plus Nani on loan for the year

    On the Suarez one, I would be working under the assumption that since Barca are under such scrutiny at the moment regarding transfers that they wouldnt be dumb enough to lie about this one is all. I dont like either club so no fear of bias or anything.

    If Liverpool didnt state a fee then fair enough, just I see £75m getting reported a lot, assumed it had come from the club, it was on SSN earlier saying that Barca saying it was 65mil was at odds with Liverpool saying it was 75mil

    Its no biggie I suppose


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,863 ✭✭✭brevity


    Gavlor wrote: »
    How dare you question the integrity of Liverpool football club!

    In fairness the truth is prob somewhere between the figure that both clubs are quoting.


    So 70m

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,033 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    kryogen wrote: »
    Not transfer news itself, more a question, Barca tonight revealed they paid £65million for Suarez, how come Liverpool lied about it if that was the case?

    If Barcelona said it, it must be true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,438 ✭✭✭5live


    If Barcelona said it, it must be true.

    Aye, its not like they have previous form in under-reporting fees paid for players bought or anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭Hangballlouie


    My assumption is that it is £65 million +£10 million add-ons, so both are kinda right.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,033 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    My assumption is that it is £65 million +£10 million add-ons, so both are kinda right.

    Probably something like that alright.


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