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Transfer Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread - Summer 2014 - Mod note in OP

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  • #1262
    Vinz Mesrine
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭Vinz Mesrine


    rob316 wrote: »
    Na Southampton rode ye on the price like the rest of us. Shaw is nothing really special either as you put it.

    He will be when he moves forward on to the left wing in 3/4 years.


  • #1263
    Rayne Wooney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    A 17/18 year old doing consistently well in the premier league is very special


  • #1264
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,869 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Rayne Wooney wrote: »
    A 17/18 year old doing consistently well in the premier league is very special

    I would rather pay 13m for a 22 year old left back than 27m for a 18 year old left back.


  • #1265
    Rayne Wooney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    rob316 wrote: »
    I would rather pay 13m for a 22 year old left back than 27m for a 18 year old left back.

    So you're an ageist now father?


  • #1266
    Mikeyt086
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Mikeyt086


    Is it impossible to avoid doing this every time a Premier League club makes a signing?


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  • #1267
    Talib Fiasco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    Like it or not 30 million for an 18 year old is a savage risk...sure is a talented player but so many young English players have turned out to be absolute stinkers after making a big move


  • #1268
    Alfred Borden
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭Alfred Borden


    why was shaw even dragged into this?


  • #1269
    Rayne Wooney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    Raf32 wrote: »
    why was shaw even dragged into this?

    Seems to grate Liverpool fans that United got Shaw without CL football, so he has been brought up a lot when they are linked with a left back


  • #1270
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,869 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Rayne Wooney wrote: »
    So you're an ageist now father?

    I'm merely pointing out its a huge risk that fee, his development could stall as he is fairly young where as moreno is 22 who is much further along in his development who is less of a risk and half the fee.

    Shaw might turn out to be brilliant but right now it's not good business and is a 27m risk.


  • #1271
    Vinz Mesrine
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭Vinz Mesrine


    Raf32 wrote: »
    why was shaw even dragged into this?

    I suppose it's my fault for saying it was ridiculous that United were forced into paying so much money for their left back just because he's English when you consider how much Liverpool paid for a player at about the same level.


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  • #1272
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,869 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Rayne Wooney wrote: »
    Seems to grate Liverpool fans that United got Shaw without CL football, so he has been brought up a lot when they are linked with a left back

    Lmfao where did you come up with that. I don't know a single liverpool fan bothered that united signed him, not one.


  • #1273
    Vinz Mesrine
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭Vinz Mesrine


    Rayne Wooney wrote: »
    Seems to grate Liverpool fans that United got Shaw without CL football, so he has been brought up a lot when they are linked with a left back

    Who the hell does it grate? Liverpool were never in for Shaw, very strange post.


  • #1274
    Utopia Parkway
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,034 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Vinz Mesrine wrote: »
    He will be when he moves forward on to the left wing in 3/4 years.

    I don't see him doing a Bale like that to be honest. Don't think he has a winger's attacking instincts. Doesn't have Bale's sheer athleticism either. I think he'll stay a LB.


  • #1275
    keane2097
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,829 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Can someone PM me when the transfer news comes back?


  • #1276
    glued
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭glued


    rob316 wrote: »
    I'm merely pointing out its a huge risk that fee, his development could stall as he is fairly young where as moreno is 22 who is much further along in his development who is less of a risk and half the fee.

    Shaw might turn out to be brilliant but right now it's not good business and is a 27m risk.


    Every transfer is a risk... Shaw has the upside of actually playing in the Premier League, United have a huge turnover (£150M+ move than Liverpool for example) and he's 'homegrown'.

    Moreno is certainly a good left back but is he any better than Shaw? I'm not sure about that even at being 4 years ahead in his development.

    I don't get why we have to do this for every Premier League transfer. It's not as if Liverpool have written the book on Premier League transfers. If Shaw turns out to be shít then I'm not going to care either as the Glazer family will have to pocket up for that. It's not as if United are spending our last £27M on Shaw.


  • #1277
    Bog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭Bog


    Hull accept 12 (TWELVE) million bid from Southampton for Long


  • #1278
    Vinz Mesrine
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭Vinz Mesrine


    Utopia Parkway wrote: »
    I don't see him doing a Bale like that to be honest. Don't think he has a winger's attacking instincts. Doesn't have Bale's sheer athleticism either. I think he'll stay a LB.

    You have to remember hes only 18 and will be moved slightly forward this year when compared to last season, he's going to be much more attacking as a wingback which will definitely aid his transition to playing as a winger/forward.


  • #1279
    Kiwi_knock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭Kiwi_knock


    Shane Long being linked with a £12 million move to Southampton. A lot of money for a striker who is not a guaranteed goal scorer.


  • #1280
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gets your lads out and start measuring!

    Hard to say who'll be the better play of the two mentioned. Both could be great, both could be failures. Who knows


  • #1281
    Johner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    Kiwi_knock wrote: »
    Shane Long being linked with a £12 million move to Southampton. A lot of money for a striker who is not a guaranteed goal scorer.

    Fee agreed according to Jim White.


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  • #1282
    Rayne Wooney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    As I said, good buy at that price and a decent player

    If you want to compare the prices then Shaw is better, younger and already done well in the premier league, went for 15 million more as a result


  • #1283
    Vinz Mesrine
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭Vinz Mesrine


    My only intention on posting was to give out about the English tax, I have no interest in comparing players because as I said, I see Shaw as a winger.


  • #1284
    prettyboy81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭prettyboy81


    Moreno :D


  • #1285
    ArielAtom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭ArielAtom


    Hoddle to a coaching role at QPR, great move byb'Arry


  • #1286
    Lucas Hood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    There's so much money involved at the top end of football now I find it hard to care how much is spent on any given player.


  • #1287
    Rayne Wooney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    Kiwi_knock wrote: »
    Shane Long being linked with a £12 million move to Southampton. A lot of money for a striker who is not a guaranteed goal scorer.

    Long a player guaranteed to get into a position to score and then miss, hopefully he starts putting them away


  • #1288
    Aenaes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭Aenaes


    I think a move to Southampton will benefit Long. He should have more genuine chances in front of goal and hopefully starts putting a few of them away.


  • #1289
    .jacksparrow.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    Kiwi_knock wrote: »
    Shane Long being linked with a £12 million move to Southampton. A lot of money for a striker who is not a guaranteed goal scorer.

    He only moved to hull?????


  • #1290
    hjkl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭hjkl


    Long's finishing can be very poor but he will still get you 6,7,8 goals a season which is a perfectly fine return for a striker at mid-lower Premier League clubs.


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  • #1291
    ASOT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭ASOT


    frimpong wrote: »
    Long's finishing can be very poor but he will still get you 6,7,8 goals a season which is a perfectly fine return for a striker at mid-lower Premier League clubs.

    8 goals for 12m is a terrible return lets be honest.


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