BMI of 38!

ClareP1983 · 13-08-2014 11:17AM #1

Okay.... I just weighed myself and appear to have a BMI of 38.9! I'm not in the better of it!! I started googling and loads of people say to ignore the BMI calculator - I'm 31 year old woman and nearing 17 stone. Myself and my partner are trying for a child soon.

I'm so anxious now over complications etc if I'm classed as morbidly obese

Can anyone offer advise. X

Alf Veedersane · 13-08-2014 11:23AM

It's not always a good guide but it is general a reasonable indication of whether or not you need to lose weight.

Without wishing to be blunt, you should address your weight for your own health and to increase your chances when it comes to trying for a chile.

If you post up your average day's food and drink, then people will be able to help you make the changes.

ClareP1983 · 13-08-2014 11:26AM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

It's not always a good guide but it is general a reasonable indication of whether or not you need to lose weight.

Without wishing to be blunt, you should address your weight for your own health and to increase your chances when it comes to trying for a chile.

If you post up your average day's food and drink, then people will be able to help you make the changes.

I would but I'm too embarrassed because it's terrible what I eat. I just got a fright when I weighed myself. I shouldn't tho because I've let myself get into a rut and let myself go

RedXIV · 13-08-2014 11:28AM

ClareP1983 wrote: »

I would but I'm too embarrassed because it's terrible what I eat. I just got a fright when I weighed myself. I shouldn't tho because I've let myself get into a rut and let myself go

First step is the worst and best all at the same time.

Trust me, start today, baby steps and you'd be surprised how fast some of it will turn around. I lost a stone and a half the first month I started eating healthier, hadn't even started exercising at that stage!

Alf Veedersane · 13-08-2014 11:41AM

ClareP1983 wrote: »

I would but I'm too embarrassed because it's terrible what I eat. I just got a fright when I weighed myself. I shouldn't tho because I've let myself get into a rut and let myself go

No one is going to judge you. It's a starting point from where you will move in the right direction.

But no one will be able to advise unless they have a good picture of what you eat and drink. People will just want to help and make suggestions as to what you can change and how.

ClareP1983 · 13-08-2014 11:47AM

Ok here goes;

Breakfast/lunch : large brown roll, egg, 3 x grilled rashers, mayo, grated cheese and tomato with tea, one sugar and low fat milk. Glass of fresh OJ

Dinner: chips and chicken gougons with ketchup and coke

2 x coffee with milk and one sugar

Snacks
2 x club milks
3 x packets of tayto
2 x glasses of coke

My daily diets would nearly always include crisps and chips. No wonder I'm in the state that I am

bmwguy · 13-08-2014 11:52AM

ClareP1983 wrote: »

Ok here goes;

Breakfast/lunch : large brown roll, egg, 3 x grilled rashers, mayo, grated cheese and tomato with tea, one sugar and low fat milk. Glass of fresh OJ

Dinner: chips and chicken gougons with ketchup and coke

2 x coffee with milk and one sugar

Snacks
2 x club milks
3 x packets of tayto
2 x glasses of coke

My daily diets would nearly always include crisps and chips. No wonder I'm in the state that I am

Start with ditching the tayto and the coke. No nutrients, just empty calories. Cut the club milk down to 1 with your tea or coffee. 500-800 calories daily saved right there, depending on size of the coke you normally have. Thats half the work done already. Reduce portion size slightly in the chips and goujons later, more of the way there now.

chrysagon · 13-08-2014 11:54AM

BMI aint even used by sportspeople, 4 time mr olympia Jay Cutler had BMI of 33, bodyfat less than 2%...118kgs of muscle..mirror should be a good guide..and u can "grow" into tracksuits without noticing it!

Stench Blossoms · 13-08-2014 11:59AM

chrysagon wrote: »

BMI aint even used by sportspeople, 4 time mr olympia Jay Cutler had BMI of 33, bodyfat less than 2%...118kgs of muscle..mirror should be a good guide..and u can "grow" into tracksuits without noticing it!

The OP is not an athlete and her diet is poor. BMI is probably accurate in this case.

OP: Your diet needs serious work. There's no veg at all.

How about:

Breakfast: Scrambled eggs with bacon
Lunch: Chicken salad (Spinach, tomato, onion, peppers, mushrooms etc)
Dinner: Meat/fish and veg (steak,pork,chicken,salmon,cod)

Alf Veedersane · 13-08-2014 12:07PM

chrysagon wrote: »

BMI aint even used by sportspeople, 4 time mr olympia Jay Cutler had BMI of 33, bodyfat less than 2%...118kgs of muscle..mirror should be a good guide..and u can "grow" into tracksuits without noticing it!

Sportspeople are outliers, in many many cases.

It holds pretty well for the majority of 'normal' people.

Hanley · 13-08-2014 12:09PM

ClareP1983 wrote: »

I would but I'm too embarrassed because it's terrible what I eat. I just got a fright when I weighed myself. I shouldn't tho because I've let myself get into a rut and let myself go

I spoke to a girl yesterday who eats takeaway 2x per day, and smokes 20+ daily too.

I didn't care where she was at - just she could
Improve.

Eg;

Have a breakfast of any kind
Get a sandwich or wrap for lunch
Have only 1 takeaway

That's the new plan until she's comfortable. Doesn't have to be hard or revolutionary

Oryx · 13-08-2014 12:16PM

ClareP1983 wrote: »

Ok here goes;

Breakfast/lunch : large brown roll,3x egg, 3 x grilled rashers, mayo, grated cheese and tomato with tea, one sugar and low fat milk. Glass of fresh OJwater

Dinner: chipsthree bean salad and chicken gougonsuncoated chicken pieces with ketchup and cokewater

2 x coffee with milk and one sugar

Snacks
2 x club milkswalnuts
3 x packets of tayto unbuttered popcorn* not ideal but better.
2 x glasses of coke water!!!

My daily diets would nearly always include crisps and chips. No wonder I'm in the state that I am

Your diet is all about carbs, salt, sugar, and high taste items. You will need to reeducate your palate to accept less highly flavoured foods, this can take a few weeks, bear with it. If you crave your usual snacks, eat a few nuts, drink water, eat fruit or carrot sticks with hummous. You need to relearn how to eat.

connollys · 13-08-2014 12:19PM

As suggested above, small changes at first. You'll be amazed how quickly the weight will fall off at first and this will then lead to motivation to keep it going. Dont over analyse just pick one thing to change this week. Drop the crisps for example, next week, make another improvement. I was guilty in the past of going at it like a hero and dropping everything straight away. It cant last and ya end up just bingeing again.

chrysagon · 13-08-2014 12:20PM

it aint all about diet.. and for starters bacon is generally of the list, so is pork, due to sodium content, but exercise has to be part of the equation, and i dont mean a trot to the fridge..60 mins in morn on empty stomach, as yer body is low on glycogen, burns fat faster!

Long journeys start with small steps, and leads to a healtheir heart!

Alf Veedersane · 13-08-2014 12:21PM

chrysagon wrote: »

it aint all about diet

No. Just about ~80%.

Stench Blossoms · 13-08-2014 12:24PM

chrysagon wrote: »

it aint all about diet.. and for starters bacon is generally of the list, so is pork, due to sodium content, but exercise has to be part of the equation, and i dont mean a trot to the fridge..60 mins in morn on empty stomach, as yer body is low on glycogen, burns fat faster!

Long journeys start with small steps, and leads to a healtheir heart!

The door is over there -> use it.

I eat bacon everyday, not really doing much training because of an injury and I ain't fat. Diet is 80%

Nyom nyom bacon.

Penny Tration · 13-08-2014 12:26PM

chrysagon wrote: »

it aint all about diet.. and for starters bacon is generally of the list, so is pork, due to sodium content, but exercise has to be part of the equation, and i dont mean a trot to the fridge..60 mins in morn on empty stomach, as yer body is low on glycogen, burns fat faster!

Long journeys start with small steps, and leads to a healtheir heart!

Bacon is wonderful, feck off.

Ri_Nollaig · 13-08-2014 12:30PM

chrysagon wrote: »

BMI aint even used by sportspeople, 4 time mr olympia Jay Cutler had BMI of 33, bodyfat less than 2%...118kgs of muscle..mirror should be a good guide..and u can "grow" into tracksuits without noticing it!

How is that even comparable in any way shape or form to the OP?

Try reducing the fuzzy drinks first anyway, atleast replace with the diet versions. You might find that alone could make a nice improvement. Take small steps to reduce your diet, don't try and do too much to quickly.

GarIT · 13-08-2014 12:33PM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

No. Just about ~80%.

That is a load of bull, it is a minimum of 99% down to diet.

A 30 min run every single day will increase the calories you are allowed in a day by 10% for weight (not health) exercise makes little to no difference. I've lost 10lbs in the last month without any exercise at all starting from 160lbs.

chrysagon · 13-08-2014 12:33PM

Ri_Nollaig wrote: »

How is that even comparable in any way shape or form to the OP?

Try reducing the fuzzy drinks first anyway, atleast replace with the diet versions. You might find that alone could make a nice improvement. Take small steps to reduce your diet, don't try and do too much to quickly.

Meaning BMI is barely used anymore as not a clear indicator!

Alf Veedersane · 13-08-2014 12:35PM

GarIT wrote: »

That is a load of bull, it is a minimum of 99% down to diet.

Steady on there, princess.

The point is that it's mostly due to diet.

GarIT · 13-08-2014 12:35PM

chrysagon wrote: »

Meaning BMI is barely used anymore as not a clear indicator!

BMI is the most accurate indicator in existence assuming you spend less than two hours in the gym per week.

Also all BMI claims to do is measure your body mass which it does accurately for everybody, muscular people do have more mass.

GarIT · 13-08-2014 12:36PM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Steady on there, princess.

The point is that it's mostly due to diet.

I know, I was just making a point of disagreeing with the other guy.

Alf Veedersane · 13-08-2014 12:36PM

chrysagon wrote: »

Meaning BMI is barely used anymore as not a clear indicator!

Two words: normal distribution.

It's a moot point anyway.

chrysagon · 13-08-2014 12:37PM

GarIT wrote: »

BMI is the most accurate indicator in existence assuming you spend less than two hours in the gym per week.

Also all BMI claims to do is measure your body mass which it does accurately for everybody, muscular people do have more mass.

Fat calipers alot more accurate!...and your pulse rate will tell alot...

GarIT · 13-08-2014 12:46PM

chrysagon wrote: »

Fat calipers alot more accurate!...and your pulse rate will tell alot...

Bodyfat is only a new thing, it doesn't have the same supporting evidence as BMI. I'm not saying that it's not good just that it doesn't have the same history of research that we can say if you have a bodyfat of X Y is Z times more likely to happen. Bodyfat is much more difficult to measure and most people will get measurements wrong.

As for pulse it would appear the OP is more concerned about weight than health/fitness.

Backstreet Moyes · 13-08-2014 12:47PM

ClareP1983 wrote: »

Ok here goes;

Breakfast/lunch : large brown roll, egg, 3 x grilled rashers, mayo, grated cheese and tomato with tea, one sugar and low fat milk. Glass of fresh OJ

Dinner: chips and chicken gougons with ketchup and coke

2 x coffee with milk and one sugar

Snacks
2 x club milks
3 x packets of tayto
2 x glasses of coke

My daily diets would nearly always include crisps and chips. No wonder I'm in the state that I am

Small steps even starting off making drastic changes will make it likely you will relapse. Just slowly make chages small steps at a time.

Bring the large brown roll down to medium. If you are putting on butter with Mayo leave out the butter you won't even taste it with the mayo.

Change to low fat milk, maybe change sugar to sweetners although i can't.

Change from breaded chicken to whole chicken fillets which are just as nice. Instead of chips somedays just add in a load of veg to fill you up.

Although not great try change from coke to diet coke starting off.

Cut down slowly only the crisps and chocolate by reducing one a day starting off.

Don't try ditch everything and make drastic changes starting off. Small changes will make a difference starting off and when you get used to these changes then try cut down more.

Hanley · 13-08-2014 12:49PM

chrysagon wrote: »

Meaning BMI is barely used anymore as not a clear indicator!

It's a great indicator for someone who isn't an elite athlete.

A fat lad who lifts weights is still a fat lad.

GarIT wrote: »

Bodyfat is only a new thing, it doesn't have the same supporting evidence as BMI. I'm not saying that it's not good just that it doesn't have the same history of research that we can say if you have a bodyfat of X Y is Z times more likely to happen. Bodyfat is much more difficult to measure and most people will get measurements wrong.

As for pulse it would appear the OP is more concerned about weight than health/fitness.

Head out of the texts book friend.

Body fat levels are a great indicator of;
> health
> fitness
> how someone is likely to feel about themselves

And it's quite easy to measure - does it jiggle.

I can't believe the thread has derailed this much given where the OP is at.

All they need to do? Work towards the following;

> 3-5 hours of physical activity a week of any kind
> 3-4 meals a day of "real food"
> do it for a month, then step it up

GarIT · 13-08-2014 12:50PM

I'm actually going to reply to the OP as it might make more sense than the pointless arguing.

OP you eat all a female of your age is allowed to eat in one day just in your snacks alone. You really need to cut your calories by at least 50% (although definitely not all at once).

You should try myfitnesspal.com for monitoring what you eat.

GarIT · 13-08-2014 12:55PM

Hanley wrote: »

Head out of the texts book friend.

Body fat levels are a great indicator of;
> health
> fitness
> how someone is likely to feel about themselves

And it's quite easy to measure - does it jiggle.

I can't believe the thread has derailed this much given where the OP is at.

I like evidence over the pseudo-science that gets posted online.

If it's done by someone trained to do it, it probably is better, but the places to measure and how to measure is so vague that the has to be inaccuracies, I know of people (with a healthy BMI) that can vary by at least in inch depending on where they measure.

I agree.

rubadub · 13-08-2014 01:09PM

chrysagon wrote: »

Meaning BMI is barely used anymore as not a clear indicator!

barely used? its used worldwide all the time

chrysagon wrote: »

BMI aint even used by sportspeople

You make that sound like you are saying "nobody bothers with BMI, not even those it suits most".

When the musclar sports people are the ones who it does not suit.

Most people to whom BMI does not apply are very well aware of the fact, e.g. a professional bodybuilder with a high BMI or conversely a person with an amputated leg & arm with very low BMI. If either of these do not realise why BMI does not apply to them then being over/underweight should be the least of their worries. They shouldn't be out on the streets alone if they are that lacking in common sense.

BMI of 38!

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