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BMI of 38!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,043 ✭✭✭Berserker


    ClareP1983 wrote: »
    Ok here goes;

    Breakfast/lunch : large brown roll, egg, 3 x grilled rashers, mayo, grated cheese and tomato with tea, one sugar and low fat milk. Glass of fresh OJ

    Dinner: chips and chicken gougons with ketchup and coke

    2 x coffee with milk and one sugar

    Snacks
    2 x club milks
    3 x packets of tayto
    2 x glasses of coke

    My daily diets would nearly always include crisps and chips. No wonder I'm in the state that I am

    No point in setting a diet for you, OP, as others have done so already.

    The first piece of advice I would give you OP is to take it one step of a time. Set yourself weekly goals and work towards them. For example, an adult should consume 2L of water per day. Now, judging by your diet, you don't drink any. To go from none to 2L won't work. You will end up spending most of the day in the bathroom. So, for the next 7 days, aim to drink 500ml of water each day, throughout the day. There is no point in drinking it all in one go. Next week, add another 500ml and so on.

    Finally, allow yourself one "bad" meal a week. I run competitively and I still take in one takeaway, small portions, on a Friday, once I don't have an important race coming up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Typer Monkey


    Hi OP,
    Don't concern yourself with the argument over the validity of BMI as a measurement. A 17 stone woman is obese in any language (sorry!)

    I think you know all the chocolate, crisps and coke is not right and needs to go. Maybe hold onto one club milk a day and have it in the evening with a cuppa as a treat. Cut all the rest out. Eating it all is only habit and can be broken if you put your mind to it. I find not buying treats so they're not in the house tempting me helps.

    Do you know how to cook and just don't do it or did you never learn? For example do you know how to make curry, stir fry, an omlette, fish etc? You really need to cook real food for your dinner instead of goujans and chips if you want to loose weight. Real food takes the same amount of time as shoving beige food from the freezer in the oven and tastes so much nicer. You can batch cook in advance and freeze if time is an issue.

    Have you always been overweight? If you have and have never cooked perhaps a group setting like slimming world might help. I would not usually recommend SW or weight watchers because I have issues with their fat demonising and the lack of oortion control but maybe it would be a good starting place for you if you really feel 'all at sea' with loosing weight. A few sessions with a good PT would be far better though if you could afford it. There's lots of very knowledgable people on here that could assist you there.

    Is there any exercise that you enjoy doing? Again a good PT could assist you there. I always hated running but felt that I had to do it. I've since found weight lifting and I love it. I'm dying to hit the gym now instead of dreading it.

    The main thing is getting a handle on your diet first. The exercise can come later. You know how you are eating is detrimental to your health and your life goals so use that as your motivation. You just need new habits. All the initial hard work will become your new habits if you stick at it.

    Good luck


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Allen Lively Wagon


    Yeah still have a club milk each day but I'd cut out the crisps and coke first off.
    Do you have time constraints on cooking or do you just need recipes and getting used to it? Either is fine to work around.

    I'd replace the brown roll in your breakfast with an egg or two

    Oryx is right about retraining your palate.
    Once you give up coke for a few weeks you'll find it unpleasant if you tried drinking it again after. Same for when you cut down on sugar.

    Don't bother changing anything about the milk and sugar in tea, if you're only having one or two cups a day it's not going to break anything.
    Drink a load of water.
    Diet 7up if you really need a fix but better to have water

    Don't spend too much time going "I'm such a state" now you know you need to make changes ... just go for it and you'll get there :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭Healthis


    ClareP1983 wrote: »
    Okay.... I just weighed myself and appear to have a BMI of 38.9! I'm not in the better of it!! I started googling and loads of people say to ignore the BMI calculator - I'm 31 year old woman and nearing 17 stone. Myself and my partner are trying for a child soon.

    I'm so anxious now over complications etc if I'm classed as morbidly obese

    Can anyone offer advise. X

    You should be ashamed of your weight. There is no excuse for this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,486 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Healthis wrote: »
    You should be ashamed of your weight. There is no excuse for this.

    Now now. Letting yourself go is depressing enough without people kicking you while you're down.

    OP, I think you know what you have to do.

    What you DON'T have to do is go on some sort of mad diet or binge on nothing but fruit and fresh air. Take it slow and change one thing at a time.

    Download My Fitness Pal, set it so that you're dropping 1lb per week and stick to the goals. You'll want to lose it all now but, trust me, the trick to keeping it off is making small changes each week until you're in a position where all of the changes have accumulated and you now have a healthier lifestyle.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Healthis wrote: »
    You should be ashamed of your weight. There is no excuse for this.

    You should be ashamed of being an asshat.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    @Healthis. Post helpfully or not at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 105 ✭✭ClareP1983


    @Healthis I am clearly ashamed of my weight hence the reason I am here looking for help. I am not stupid I know nearly 17 stone is awful I don't need clarification on that. Thanks everyone else for your words of encouragement


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    ClareP1983 wrote: »
    @Healthis I am clearly ashamed of my weight hence the reason I am here looking for help. I am not stupid I know nearly 17 stone is awful I don't need clarification on that. Thanks everyone else for your words of encouragement

    There's nothing wrong with your weight.

    Your weight is a result of the choices you've made and the foods you've eaten up until now.

    Those foods have told your body what to do, and what signals to send to your brain.

    Your brain can say "no" all it wants, but eventually your body will win.

    You solve that problem by eliminating will power and starting to improve the foods you eat right now, 1 meal at a time.

    So whatever you're doing now, stop, get the hell of the computer, go buy some chicken, some rice, weight out 50g of rice, 200g of chicken and throw some veg in.

    Eat that, and then make another smart choice next time.

    :)


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,832 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Healthis wrote: »
    You should be ashamed of your weight. There is no excuse for this.

    That's a really unhelpful comment. The OP is trying sort herself out - and fair play to her for coming on here and asking for scrutiny.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    GarIT wrote: »
    That is a load of bull, it is a minimum of 99% down to diet.

    A 30 min run every single day will increase the calories you are allowed in a day by 10% for weight (not health) exercise makes little to no difference. I've lost 10lbs in the last month without any exercise at all starting from 160lbs.

    Eh, my understanding is that regular exercise will boost the metabolism - and as a result accelerate weight loss and also aid with keeping the weight off.

    Is this not correct?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    drumswan wrote: »
    Eh, my understanding is that regular exercise will boost the metabolism - and as a result accelerate weight loss and also aid with keeping the weight off.

    Is this not correct?

    The point is that diet is more important.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    drumswan wrote: »
    Eh, my understanding is that regular exercise will boost the metabolism - and as a result accelerate weight loss and also aid with keeping the weight off.

    Is this not correct?

    Not to a significant degree tbh. You need to add quite a bit of muscle to see any major metabolic benefit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


    drumswan wrote: »
    Eh, my understanding is that regular exercise will boost the metabolism - and as a result accelerate weight loss and also aid with keeping the weight off.

    Is this not correct?

    You cannot out train a bad diet..

    Edit: a very quick estimation, the OP is probably eating 4000Kcal a day based on what she listed. She would need to burn maybe 3000Kcal/day training to lose anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    The point is that diet is more important.

    Of course. Im a newb to this, have been using myfitnesspal to count calories and doing the couch to 5k thing, Ive lost 4kg in 5 weeks.

    Are you saying there is no tangible benefit to exercise then?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    drumswan wrote: »
    Of course. Im a newb to this, have been using myfitnesspal to count calories and doing the couch to 5k thing, Ive lost 4kg in 5 weeks.

    Are you saying there is no tangible benefit to exercise then?

    The key word in the sentence - "more".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


    drumswan wrote: »
    Of course. Im a newb to this, have been using myfitnesspal to count calories and doing the couch to 5k thing, Ive lost 4kg in 5 weeks.

    Are you saying there is no tangible benefit to exercise then?

    If you have started from a completely inactive lifestyle to counting and training you will lose the first 2-3kg very easily. Most of it will be bloated water retention.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    Well what an encouraging thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


    drumswan wrote: »
    Well what an encouraging thread

    Do you want people to pat you on the back and say "keep eating junk and do a bit of exercise and it'll be grand" or do you want actual helpful advise?

    Everything posted in reply to the OP has outlined the best way to start... slowly cut out junk and improve meals, get some exercise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    mloc123 wrote: »
    Do you want people to pat you on the back and say "keep eating junk and do a bit of exercise and it'll be grand" or do you want actual helpful advise?
    Eh? I dont eat junk, wtf are you ****eing on about? I was looking for input from runners or others on the tangible benefits of exercise


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    drumswan wrote: »
    Eh? I dont eat junk, wtf are you ****eing on about? I was looking for input from runners or others on the tangible benefits of exercise

    It didn't come across that way at all....but yes there are obvious benefits to running.

    In the context of losing weight, getting the diet right is a higher priority as it will be the main reason for success. Exercise of course plays a role in it and is ideally part of a change in lifestyle but you can still lose weight and and get where you want by nailing your diet.

    But yes, there are tangible benefits to running like fitness and burning calories.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


    drumswan wrote: »
    Eh? I dont eat junk, wtf are you ****eing on about? I was looking for input from runners or others on the tangible benefits of exercise

    Exercise burns calories. Greater muscle mass will increase your BMR but unless you are body builder size not to any great amount.

    You said earlier that exercise was more important than diet, it isn't. Take for example a 5km run. You will burn probably at most 300Kcal, that is roughly a mars bar?

    To lose weight - calories out > calories in. Do this any way you like but it is impossible to out train a bad diet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭groovyg


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    What you DON'T have to do is go on some sort of mad diet or binge on nothing but fruit and fresh air. Take it slow and change one thing at a time.

    Totally agree, I'm working with a colleague who did this, well went to a company that specialises in losing weight, spent a hell of a lot of dosh and ended up on a binge diet where she was essentially eating a 1000 cals a day. Did lose a lot of weight in a short space of time, however is now back eating junk every day and evidently piling it all back on.

    OP there is no quick fix, I'd say set yourself samll targets, my fittnesspal as others have mentioned is very good.
    Do you eat breakfast at all? Would you try switching to sparking water instead of coke in order to wean yourself off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    drumswan wrote: »
    Eh? I dont eat junk, wtf are you ****eing on about? I was looking for input from runners or others on the tangible benefits of exercise

    What they are saying is that its far easier to fix the food and the amounts of food your eating then trying to out-train a bad diet. As I've discovered over the last 6 months, when you train hard bad food effects you negatively.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    mloc123 wrote: »
    You said earlier that exercise was more important than diet, it isn't.
    I said no such thing!?
    What they are saying is that its far easier to fix the food and the amounts of food your eating then trying to out-train a bad diet. As I've discovered over the last 6 months, when you train hard bad food effects you negatively.
    Cheers. Im surprised that exercise is such a minor factor in weight loss, I'd always assumed 'diet and regular exercise' went hand in hand. Looking at the calorie returns from the apps I am using, I could just skip a meal a week to replace my entire exercise regime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    drumswan wrote: »
    Cheers. Im surprised that exercise is such a minor factor in weight loss, I'd always assumed 'diet and regular exercise' went hand in hand. Looking at the calorie returns from the apps I am using, I could just skip a meal a week to replace my entire exercise regime.

    Ideally, they would.

    But you can lose the excess by improving what you eat and getting the portions right without needing to exercise.

    Exercise will help the process though and will have other health benefits as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,911 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    The door is over there -> use it.

    I eat bacon everyday, not really doing much training because of an injury and I ain't fat. Diet is 80%

    Nyom nyom bacon.

    It may not make you fat but processed meat, in particular bacon & ham are unhealthy in other ways due to salt and nitrate content (unless this advice has been debunked, but I haven't heard that) - I wouldn't eat it every day.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    loyatemu wrote: »
    It may not make you fat but processed meat, in particular bacon & ham are unhealthy in other ways due to salt and nitrate content (unless this advice has been debunked, but I haven't heard that) - I wouldn't eat it every day.

    Well I do and I look great AND I'm healthy.

    (Someone back me up here)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭GarIT


    drumswan wrote: »
    I said no such thing!?


    Cheers. Im surprised that exercise is such a minor factor in weight loss, I'd always assumed 'diet and regular exercise' went hand in hand. Looking at the calorie returns from the apps I am using, I could just skip a meal a week to replace my entire exercise regime.

    MyFitnessPal is wrong for the amount of calories burned in exercise. Whatever you see on MFP you need to divide by 5.

    On the couch to 5k program you are burning about 120 calories for the first 3-4 weeks.

    I used to run but at the moment I'm on 2.2k calories, a 30 min run isn't worth the 120 extra calories. When I finishing cutting and start to bulk I'll be on 3k calories exercise would be completely pointless. I will be doing strength training but obviously for different reasons.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭GarIT


    loyatemu wrote: »
    It may not make you fat but processed meat, in particular bacon & ham are unhealthy in other ways due to salt and nitrate content (unless this advice has been debunked, but I haven't heard that) - I wouldn't eat it every day.

    I eat a lot of meat and I'm fine I watch everything though. I've only gone over on salt once and that was when I ate bacon for both lunch and dinner (that was a good day).


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