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Can a pub maintain a ban for life?

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  • #152
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    conorh91 wrote: »
    They were just being friendly or pragmatic.

    They would have been within their rights to ask you to leave.

    That would be a matter for the management to deicide. I'm not sure why you think it would be against the law.

    You are the only one that's mentioned law.


  • #153
    BizzyC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭BizzyC


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    You are the only one that's mentioned law.

    Didn't read the OP?

    This whole thread literally began with a question of whether the bar we're legally within their rights to ban someone for life.


  • #154
    20Cent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Was passing a pub on Meath st two women at the door smoking say to an old guy going in.
    "You can't come in here your barred"
    "Why?"
    "You went to the toilet in the bar"
    "Sher that was ages ago"
    He went in.


  • #155
    Hoop66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,829 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Maybe OP just smells?


  • #156
    Pedro K
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭Pedro K


    AngeGal wrote: »
    As opposed to the other anecdotal evidence in this thread??? At least my experience is first hand rather than 'sure everyone knows it going on'.




    How do you figure that? Need to pay two people for the day, something like 11am-6pm and 6-1am. Thirteen hours x 10/11 euro an hour = 140 euroish. 400 euro takings, how much profit?

    Well you originally said the €400 wouldn't cover the staff for the day, let alone other expenses. Which begs the question, how much staff have they got for a €400 day? Because the figures you've just suggested cover the staff cost.


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  • #157
    NipNip
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 656 ✭✭✭NipNip


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    That's what I do, I tend to do my Drinking at home now. But the pubs are now lobbying the government again. They are trying to say people drink to much, and there is no one at home to say you have had to much. They are also trying to get the price jacked up so it's prohibitively expensive to drink at home. You know so you have to go out to the pub to have a few. All the reasons they are lobbying under are total Boll*x btw.

    I have an uncle, a publican in another jurisdiction, arguing just that. Vested interest?


  • #158
    Ravenid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭Ravenid


    Ok, I'm not the worlds greatest fan of pubs nowadays.

    Between the constantly rising prices, the smoking bans and lets not forget the €2.50 crisps from a certain Dublin bar recently. But everyone knows that Pubs are business. And they have rules that they enforce fairly strictly. You push them on the rules, out you go.

    But I've never seen a pub ban someone for life for 1 incident of "tipping". And I've never seen a bar remember a ban on someone 8 years later after 1 incident. So I'm sorry OP I just don't believe you.

    You need to really make a mark on someone to have them remember you 8 years later and keep a ban in force. So we are either looking at a repeated offender here who the publican finally had enough of or some one who made such a scene being asked to leave that they burnt their bridges with the owners.

    Publicans want to make money, lots of it, everyone on the board has given you stories of how they do it. Turning down a customer with for 8 years who is willing to pay, over 1 incident if they have been a easy to handle regular before that. Nope.

    Tell us the whole story.


  • #159
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Much like people who bring their own drink into pubs I sometimes sneak my own films into cinemas and watch them in the toilets on my phone.

    Cineworld haven't caught on to my scam just yet but I am barred from the Savoy.


  • #160
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Much like people who bring their own drink into pubs I sometimes sneak my own films into cinemas and watch them in the toilets on my phone.

    Cineworld haven't caught on to my scam just yet but I am barred from the Savoy.

    I bring my demigod, a half full box of Persil, to mass every Sunday and worship it down the back pew.


  • #161
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    I bring my demigod, a half full box of Persil, to mass every Sunday and worship it down the back pew.

    I used to bring my own Eucharist made from Askey ice cream wafers and I'd forgive my own sins out in the car park after.

    Father Molloy feckin' hated me and eventually I was excommunicated.


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  • #162
    AngeGal
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    Pedro K wrote: »
    Well you originally said the €400 wouldn't cover the staff for the day, let alone other expenses. Which begs the question, how much staff have they got for a €400 day? Because the figures you've just suggested cover the staff cost.

    Well they obviously require two staff, day shift and night shift. 400 euro might just cover them but it would be tight particularly for full time staff on better wages.

    Anyway the point remains the same, even 'busy' bars in Galway City Centre are just about (if you want to be picky) covering the cost of staff wages mon - wed without considering other expenses.


  • #163
    Joe prim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Joe prim


    Flincher wrote: »
    They can refuse service to whoever they like, they just can't refuse service on certain discriminatory ground.

    As in they are entitled to refuse service to a black gay Jewish traveller in a wheelchair if he is too drunk or abusive, or sneaking in his own drink, etc. They can't refuse him just because he is black, or gay, or Jewish, or a traveller, or in a wheelchair.

    Yes, but the OP was "tipping up" wine! Wine is a middle-class drink (except in Glasgow). Therefore, the bar owner is discriminating against the OP on the grounds of being middle-class, and the OP can take a class action against the publican, and probably win, in my opinion, and get damages of around 50,000 Euro ( Which incidentally, would buy her about 25,000 of those little bottles of wine from Aldi).




    NB.; I am not, nor do I hold myself out to be, legally qualified.

    NNB; I am , in fact, an idiot.


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