PGA Tour Thread

Surely bernhard langer deserves a wildcard

PARlance wrote: »

So potentially GMac and X in for Donald and Donaldson.

X = Gallacher or Poulter?

The way the table is shaping up, the last two automatic spots look likely to go to two out of McDowell, Donald and Donaldson. Gallagher or Poulter could force their way into the side with a top 3 finish or thereabouts next week, but it will be interesting to see what changes players on the fringes of the team make to their playing schedules over the following three weeks, depending on how next week's results go.

I find it hard to picture Sergio as Mr Nice Guy. Sure, he's got bundles of talent, but I still remember his aggressive behaviour towards Padraig Harrington after the Seve Trophy incident against Olazabal and I just find his general on course demeanour a bit off putting.

Just caught up with the recorded coverage. All over on the 4th hole, could never see Sergio winning after that.

Some driving by Rory, got lucky with some branches, otherwise back to where he was in 2012.

The bonus of World No1.

Also Marc Leishman should have got a fairway map as well a the pin sheet at the start of the round, did well to finish 3rd.

vienne86 wrote: »

Good run by GMac, so does that qualify him for the Ryder Cup automatically? In any event, I'd fancy him to go well this week.

Not in qualifying spots yet, still a bit back but another top 10 at the USPGA gets him very close to Donaldson/Donald.

In fairness, he is definitely going to be picked if McGinley sticks to his mantra that he is going to pick the players in form.

My only worry is who he decides to pair him with due to Horizon/McIlroy gate.....

Hopefully this means tiger is out of the Ryder Cup, he doesn't deserve a spot and would only be there for tv numbers.

ssbob wrote: »

Not in qualifying spots yet, still a bit back but another top 10 at the USPGA gets him very close to Donaldson/Donald.

In fairness, he is definitely going to be picked if McGinley sticks to his mantra that he is going to pick the players in form.

My only worry is who he decides to pair him with due to Horizon/McIlroy gate.....

Hopefully this means tiger is out of the Ryder Cup, he doesn't deserve a spot and would only be there for tv numbers.

They haven't yet updated the World Points List to allow for yesterday's results. When they do, McDowell will be up to 8th in the list, just under 2 points ahead of Donaldson, who will be less than 1 point ahead of Donald. Too close to call between these three for the final two automatic spots, but recent form suggests it will be McDowell and Donald. I don't think Donaldson will get a pick if he fails to qualify automatically, but either of the other two almost certainly will.

Did anyone see the sneaky canvassing for Westwood from Simon Holmes??

abff wrote: »

I think Westwood could well get a pick if both McDowell and Donald make the team automatically.

Poulter would get one of the picks and I think the other two would be between Donaldson, Gallacher, Jimenez, Westwood and maybe Luiten and Francisco Molinari if either of them shows really good form over the next few weeks.

On what basis? Experience? You have an abundance of that already in the team with Kaymer/Rory/McDowell(assuming he gets in)/Bjorn/Rose etc.....

He has had one good round in the last 2/3 months as far as I can see, unless he has a top 10 next weekend I think there would be no justification in even including him in the debate.

As I have said before, if McGinley is smart he will choose Gallacher as long as he has decent form and is close enough to the automatics as he is now. Home support is vital but having a Scot in the team will heighten the levels for the locals.

I reckon Luiten is a definite no at this stage unless he does something unbelievable.

ssbob wrote: »

On what basis? Experience? You have an abundance of that already in the team with Kaymer/Rory/McDowell(assuming he gets in)/Bjorn/Rose etc.....

He has had one good round in the last 2/3 months as far as I can see, unless he has a top 10 next weekend I think there would be no justification in even including him in the debate.

As I have said before, if McGinley is smart he will choose Gallacher as long as he has decent form and is close enough to the automatics as he is now. Home support is vital but having a Scot in the team will heighten the levels for the locals.

I reckon Luiten is a definite no at this stage unless he does something unbelievable.

I previously had the view that a Scot on the team would be a big boost. But to be honest, I don't think Gallacher is the type to get the Scots putting on their dresses and face paint....He's not exactly William Wallace

I say there would be just as much support from the home crowd for any other player... and even more if it was Jimenez (who I don't think should make it) but I can see the Jimmy Nesbit t-shirts already

Still harbouring hopes that another T-10 for Lowry would put pressure on McGinley to pick him as an inform player. But doubtful and only a dream really.

I think Donaldson would be hard done by to miss a place. He's been solid for a few years now.

Slicemeister wrote: »

Would love to see Langer/ Kaymer tee it up.

:eek::eek: I am really not in the mood for a wind up today:eek::eek:

If it was even a consideration I would imagine that McGinley would have rang him to make him play all the remaining events against the regular tour guys.

PARlance wrote: »

I say there would be just as much support from the home crowd for any other player... and even more if it was Jimenez (who I don't think should make it) but I can see the Jimmy Nesbit t-shirts already

Still harbouring hopes that another T-10 for Lowry would put pressure on McGinley to pick him as an inform player. But doubtful and only a dream really.

I think Donaldson would be hard done by to miss a place. He's been solid for a few years now.

I think Jiminez has stalled a bit, still playing well but not at the level he was earlier in the year. I think the same goes for Donaldson.

I actually think a solid showing in the PGA and then turn up at those ET events before hand with good showings has to bring Lowry into McGinleys reckoning. I believe that if there is a 50/50 call McGinley might err on the side of bias?

abff wrote: »

I'm not saying that Westwood should get a pick, just that he might get one. And yes, it would primarily be because of his Ryder Cup record. Having said this, he would need to show some form in order to be considered. I reckon a top 5 next week (not that likely on recent form, but you can't rule it out completely) would put him in a strong position to get a pick and even a top 10 would allow his fan club to start putting pressure on McGinley to pick him.

I agree that Luiten is very unlikely to make the team. I was just mentioning him and Molinari in the interests of completeness.

Actually if you get time abff, your a stats man like me, maybe we should compare performances since the start of 2014 for all the players in and around contention? Would be good to define who is genuinely in form.

Slicemeister wrote: »

No wind up. The man just blitzed a tough trackin a Senior Major to 17 or somewhat under, finished T8 at the Masters and is in some physical and mental condition. Only negative is his age but he can do a job for the team. Certainly brings more to the table than a Westwood, Donaldson or Lowry, all the more when Kaymer has already qualified.

Wind up. You'll have your bellyful of those this weekend. Hope the humour befalls you

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

One regular tour event this year on a course he knows inside out, great achievement.

Also great achievement on the senior tour.

But doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the Ryder Cup team.

Slicemeister wrote: »

No wind up. The man just blitzed a tough trackin a Senior Major to 17 or somewhat under, finished T8 at the Masters and is in some physical and mental condition. Only negative is his age but he can do a job for the team. Certainly brings more to the table than a Westwood, Donaldson or Lowry, all the more when Kaymer has already qualified.

Wind up. You'll have your bellyful of those this weekend. Hope the humour befalls you

It would make a mockery of the selection process to pick Langer ahead of guys playing week in/out on the ET.......just not going to happen.

eagle eye wrote: »

Why would it make a mockery of it? A great Captain will be ruthless and pick who he thinks is best regardless of what they have done.

I don't know if Langer, or Monty, should be picked or not, I just think that ruling someone out because he plays seniors events is wrong.

As long as McGinley picks who he thinks is best for the job I'll be happy.

Because the qualifying criteria are clearly laid out - if Langer had wanted to qualify he should have played regular tour events(ET or PGA) instead of lining his pockets on the senior tour...

Slicemeister wrote: »

Has he not played Valhalla before?

Not sure what's the relevance of the Valhalla reference. The 2008 Ryder Cup was played there and this year's PGA, but the 2014 Ryder Cup will be played in Scotland.