Roundabouts - their use and abuse (with videos!)

bboybaboy19 · 29-07-2014 08:57PM

between the 'f*cks sake* and the emergency style braking and the beep I'd say you've earned a spot in the overreactor 2014 championships.

TheChizler · 29-07-2014 08:58PM

Xennon wrote: »

IMHO you shouldnt take an exit from an inside lane on a roundabout if there is any traffic in the outside lanes ... end of...take for example your typical irish roudabout with the broken white line going around it.....if you take the right lane on approach to turn right then you go directly into the inside lane. After the exit previous to yours you can make your way to the outside lane and then take the exit, if and only if its clear, otherwise you are changing lanes, just as you would be on a normal dual carriage way.

Do you perhaps mean the reverse there? Inside lane is on your left, outside on right.

BohsCeltic · 29-07-2014 08:58PM

bboybaboy19 wrote: »

between the 'f*cks sake* and the emergency style braking and the beep I'd say you've earned a spot in the overreactor 2014 championships.

I didn't beep and i didn't slam on the brakes either

bear1 · 29-07-2014 08:58PM

bboybaboy19 wrote: »

between the 'f*cks sake* and the emergency style braking and the beep I'd say you've earned a spot in the overreactor 2014 championships.

That made me chuckle :pac:

huggs2 · 29-07-2014 09:55PM

josip wrote: »

That roundabout seems typical of a few roundabouts near here that don't conform to the 4 exits separated at 90 degrees that the rules of the road chicken out with.

I've gotten the council to put exit-specific markings on the approach lanes to those roundabouts. It's improved things a bit.

A left and straight arrow at that approach in the vid is ambiguous and worse than no markings. The 2nd exit seems left of straight ahead and the 3rd exit seems right of straight. The OP wasn't necessarily in the wrong lane, nor was the Avensis.

I agree with all you say. Seems natural to me to be in the right lane on this particular roundabout though.

The Dagda · 29-07-2014 11:10PM

josip wrote: »

That roundabout seems typical of a few roundabouts near here that don't conform to the 4 exits separated at 90 degrees that the rules of the road chicken out with.

I've gotten the council to put exit-specific markings on the approach lanes to those roundabouts. It's improved things a bit.

A left and straight arrow at that approach in the vid is ambiguous and worse than no markings. The 2nd exit seems left of straight ahead and the 3rd exit seems right of straight. The OP wasn't necessarily in the wrong lane, nor was the Avensis.

Road markings/signage take precedence in ALL situations.

The OP and the Polo were in the wrong lane.

josip · 30-07-2014 12:38AM

The Dagda wrote: »

Road markings/signage take precedence in ALL situations.

The OP and the Polo were in the wrong lane.

But when there's no exit 180 degrees from your approach, which exit left or right of that does a straight ahead arrow refer to?

The Dagda · 30-07-2014 12:46AM

josip wrote: »

But when there's no exit 180 degrees from your approach, which exit left or right of that does a straight ahead arrow refer to?

Are you serious? Do you really not know the answer to this question?!

There is a sign on the left as you approach the roundabout which tells you where each exit is. The sign clearly shows which exit is which. The markings on the road relate to the signage.

This is very basic stuff that you're supposed to have learnt when you first started driving! :rolleyes:

dashcamdanny · 30-07-2014 12:57AM

gutteruu wrote: »

But the RSA refuse to differentiate between the type of accidents. It is just "road deaths". So it would be safe to assume that most cycling deaths are younger people. Pedestrian deaths in cities would be more younger. More young people per car when in an accident. There are loads of factors and no stat without all the info is correct.

My problem is the RSA couldn't give a flying f**k about research or targeting problem areas. Its just the same old ****e of drink,speed and young people. Totalling ignoring everything else.

I am in my mid 30's. I'm "obsessed" because I had 3 old people drive the wrong way down a motorway at me in the last 5 years alone. I do about 40k miles per year and everyday I spend dodging old people oblivious to the world around them. Also, there is clear evidence the drink driving issue is an older generation problem and Gay Byrne is the RSA.

I hate to break this to ya,

But some day (if you're lucky), you will also be an elderly person.

Do you think you should be banned off the road when that happens?

dickwod1 · 30-07-2014 03:10AM

dashcamdanny wrote: »

I hate to break this to ya,

But some day (if you're lucky), you will also be an elderly person.

Do you think you should be banned off the road when that happens?

If I'm ever elderly and I go around roundabout's the wrong way, drive the wrong way down duel carriageway's, and/or all of other stupid sh!t we've seen here over the past while then YES I hope I'm banned for the sake of all the other road user's and their family's.

Caliden · 30-07-2014 09:39AM

IP freely wrote: »

Sounds and looks like ya did! Also accelerating away at full pelt though did cure all the wrongdoings!

Judging by this dashcam I'd not like to meet either of ye on the road, ya need to learn to take a chill pill ya seem to get geed up over nout.

I don't think I'd like to meet yourself either as you come across as someone who just isn't bothered with road markings.

He posted a video where not 1 but 2 cars veered into the wrong lanes all within 5 seconds.

I have no doubt he sees the exact same thing at the roundabout on more occasions than he'd like to admit.

Having the attitude "ah relax will ya, shure nobody got hurt", is exactly what's wrong with a lot of motorists in this country. Drive until you hear the bang...

gutteruu · 30-07-2014 10:47AM

dashcamdanny wrote: »

Do you think you should be banned off the road when that happens?

No but most of these people have never done a test. Ever! No lessons, no education whatsoever. Just given a car and keys and away they went. Motorways barely existed when half of them started driving. How would you expect them to know.

RSA etc should have introduced some driver education. Like a 1 day "safepass" style course when everyone goes to renew their licence. I passed my test about 15 years ago and since then, roundabouts operate differently, road markings are all different, motorways were introduced.

Our state body expects people to learn the new rules through near misses/accidents or in the hope they watch ads on RTE.

RustyNut · 30-07-2014 10:53AM

gutteruu wrote: »

RSA etc should have introduced some driver education. Like a 1 day "safepass" style course when everyone goes to renew their licence. I passed my test about 15 years ago and since then, roundabouts operate differently, road markings are all different, motorways were introduced.

Now there is a sensible idea.

Cabaal · 30-07-2014 10:53AM

gutteruu wrote: »

RSA etc should have introduced some driver education. Like a 1 day "safepass" style course when everyone goes to renew their licence. I passed my test about 15 years ago and since then, roundabouts operate differently, road markings are all different, motorways were introduced.

Our state body expects people to learn the new rules through near misses/accidents or in the hope they watch ads on RTE.

I'd like to see a refresher test every 10 years for everyone,

Even if its just theory that people have to pass again it would make people aware of what road markings are for! Some amount of people still don't know what a yellow box is for.

BohsCeltic · 30-07-2014 06:49PM

IP freely wrote: »

Sounds and looks like ya did! Also accelerating away at full pelt though did cure all the wrongdoings!

Judging by this dashcam I'd not like to meet either of ye on the road, ya need to learn to take a chill pill ya seem to get geed up over nout.

This happens every day at that roundabout and the one down further so after a while it gets beyond pissing you off.
And i definately did not beep or slam on, i slowed down and the phone holder hit off the rearview mirror

Mick55 · 31-07-2014 08:20AM

BohsCeltic wrote: »

This happens every day at that roundabout and the one down further so after a while it gets beyond pissing you off.
And i definately did not beep or slam on, i slowed down and the phone holder hit off the rearview mirror

Yea the roundabout further down where the two lanes merge into one can get mental at rush hour. You see people having the drag race passed the Topaz, cut through the roundabouts and a game of chicken when the lanes merge... only to be sitting together two mins later waiting to turn down into Lusk!

celticbest · 31-07-2014 10:39AM

Two vid's from the last few days,

finnharpsboy · 31-07-2014 06:29PM

walkinstown roundabout and greenhills road this morning

dashcamdanny · 03-08-2014 08:11PM

Question.

This is me today.

The driver on the roundabout was indicating to leave at the exit before mine. So I naturally assumed that he would he would leave there.

I glanced ahead. In that second, the old fecker continued around, leaving me to heavy brake 7 tons of truck .

Im fairly sure if I would have been nailed for this, I would clearly be in the wrong...

but...

If I could prove through dash cam that he was wrongly indicating his intention, would liability fall on him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIG8Nfuidn0

coolisin · 03-08-2014 08:13PM

dashcamdanny wrote: »

Question.

This is me today.

The driver on the roundabout was indicating to leave at the exit before mine. So I naturally assumed that he would he would leave there.

I glanced ahead. In that second, the old fecker continued around, leaving me to heavy brake 7 tons of truck .

Im fairly sure if I would have been nailed for this, I would clearly be in the wrong...

but...

If I could prove through dash cam that he was wrongly indicating his intention, would liability fall on him?

Afraid not. You'd be in the wrong still

Pawwed Rig · 03-08-2014 08:13PM

Never trust an indicator

Nino Brown · 03-08-2014 08:15PM

coolisin wrote: »

Afraid not. You'd be in the wrong still

I agree, plus you'd have to have a dashcam facing off to your right, which wouldn't be much use in any situation, or than that very specific one

Gosub · 03-08-2014 08:15PM

I would never believe indicators, especially on a roundabout. You get clowns indicating for the third exit when they're taking the second (straight ahead) and all manner of errors. His road position would have warned me he wasn't exiting at that turn.

wonski · 03-08-2014 08:32PM

Gosub wrote: »

I would never believe indicators, especially on a roundabout. You get clowns indicating for the third exit when they're taking the second (straight ahead) and all manner of errors. His road position would have warned me he wasn't exiting at that turn.

I don't even trust the road position anymore, until the offender actually leaves the roundabout - some drivers do it at very acrobatic angles.
Such a simple task, but half of the drivers don't bother with indicating at all. Feckers don't indicating left are the worst if you are trying to join at next exit.

There is a number of drivers who do it correctly - I would say 50/50 in my experience.

Would be your fault OP - you have to give right of way, regardless of their indicator and intentions.

C.M_jc · 03-08-2014 08:34PM

Gosub wrote: »

I would never believe indicators, especially on a roundabout. You get clowns indicating for the third exit when they're taking the second (straight ahead) and all manner of errors. His road position would have warned me he wasn't exiting at that turn.

For example, the Primera in dickwod1's clip above who was indicating they were going to continue around the roundabout.

My driving instructor told me to never believe cars indicating, until they make their maneuver.

wonski wrote: »

There is a number of drivers who do it correctly - I would say 50/50 in my experience.

Not in mine. More like 50:1.

08-08-2014 03:42PM

finnharpsboy wrote: »

it appears i attract these things to me

I'm getting worried about you. Nothing wrong with your driving or anything but the lunatics and idiots you come across everyday nearly is shocking! I think you need to get a helicopter :P

gutteruu · 08-08-2014 08:25PM

Watch the jeep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9sxjWkUciQ

pablo128 · 09-08-2014 01:16AM

gutteruu wrote: »

Watch the jeep

He timed that well, luckily. But that sort of cheeky sh1te gets peoples goat up.:mad:

IP freely · 10-08-2014 03:00PM

I can only assume this fella's feet stink. Dangerous thing to be doing I think. I was behind him for a few KM's all whist the passenger done this. Driver cutting across the roundabout too, but there is no line in fairness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeeihXEWZLQ

celticbest · 15-08-2014 09:55AM

Why do people in Ireland think it's okay to

change lanes on R/A's

not indicate when changing lanes

Roundabouts - their use and abuse (with videos!)

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