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Palestinaisn being slaughtered and a prick with a cowboy hat is on frint page

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    Rightwing wrote: »
    Alas, I'm stating facts. If you think any Western leader is losing sleep over this you are gravely mistaken. It's seen as an opportunity for Israel. They will tell you otherwise, they are searching for peace etc,,trust me, they aren't.

    What facts are you stating?..that the Palestinians should be pummelled once and for all..what do you mean by that?..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    they were guilt tripped and emotionally blackmailed into doing it in 1967, and have been ever since

    Very powerful section of society in the US, with massive wealth.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    listermint wrote: »
    Well alot of the references you and mr A1 apologist who takes over from you when you shut down on sydney time seem to be of the zionist orientation.

    Explicitly indicating that Hamas want to wipe Israelis from the planet. When Hamas have explicitly said they want their lands back and are fighting the oppressor. And it just so happens in this case the Oppressor is Isreal.

    So tell me have you anything to say about my simpler solution in the post that you referenced. Or are you just hand picking things that you feel you can mouth off about? because other items actual shed a glaring light over the whole thing ??


    Yes. ?
    No?

    Eh but Hamas in their charter does call for the killing of Jews and the destruction of the state of Israel.

    Zionist orientation.... I suppose the Jews control the media too? It's s conspiracy right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,740 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    This situation is fcuked.

    Israel needs to stop, or be stopped.

    UN peacekeepers on the ground, roll back the OT, demilitarize the area.

    Ban Ki Moon is showing serious weakness by not dropping a ton of bricks on the whole situation. immediate sanctions and peacekeepers on planes on the way.

    How do we make that happen ?

    These are civilians being murdered. bottom line, a war crime, documented in full color live across the world.
    the sespit that is murika won't let it happen

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    WakeUp wrote: »
    What facts are you stating?..that the Palestinians should be pummelled once and for all..what do you mean by that?..

    I'm stating the way it is seen by the Western leaders.

    Do you think this situation would be tolerated anywhere else on the planet ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    Israel implements the policy because Hamas gives it little choice.

    So Israel is responsible for the Palestinians captivity in Gaza? it's their policy they enforce it they are responsible for the open air prison camp that is Gaza? Yes or no .or is it sorta the fault of Hamas?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    WakeUp wrote: »
    I'd appreciate a straight answer please. who is responsible for the people of Gaza being penned in , in what can only be described as an open air prison. who is responsible for that Hamas or Israel?..

    Of course Hamas.

    They can't flee to Egypt because of Hamas. Egypt won't have them.

    They can't flee to Jordan. Jordan expelled all Palestinians after Black September.

    As you can see. The Palestinians have made themselves no favours aligning themselves with Hamas and before then the PLO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,300 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    jank wrote: »
    Eh but Hamas in their charter does call for the killing of Jews and the destruction of the state of Israel.

    Zionist orientation.... I suppose the Jews control the media too? It's s conspiracy right?

    no just your sources. The ones that suit your agenda. There is no major conspiracy here bar the war mongering. If you cant see that, its a worry that you claim to be some sort of self thinking individual.

    Question for you.

    Is the root of this not about Land ?

    Is the perpetual nature of this war not about money?


    Of these two facts, how best to resolve?


    Give the borders back and instead of war mongering, make money from rebuilding.


    But sure that wouldnt be enough money would it for the arms manufacturers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    they were guilt tripped and emotionally blackmailed into doing it in 1967, and have been ever since

    No they aren't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    Rightwing wrote: »
    I'm stating the way it is seen by the Western leaders.

    Do you think this situation would be tolerated anywhere else on the planet ?

    You said the rockets are a good excuse to pummel them all into oblivion once and for all ..what did you mean by that? this situation certainly would not be tolerated anywhere else on the planet let it be an eye opener to all as to the sort of people "leading" our world.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    WakeUp wrote: »
    So Israel is responsible for the Palestinians captivity in Gaza? it's their policy they enforce it they are responsible for the open air prison camp that is Gaza? Yes or no .or is it sorta the fault of Hamas?

    Israel is responsible for keeping the borders around Gaza sealed tight, thus preventing Hamas militants from blowing themselves up on Israeli buses and restocking their classroom bunkers with more rockets. It is entirely an Israeli policy to keep those borders tightly secured.

    This is a tragedy, because it means that the people of Gaza cannot live free and productive lives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,740 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    fedor.2. wrote: »
    Virtually everything in this post is garbage. well done.
    the evidence says otherwise

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Of course Hamas.

    They can't flee to Egypt because of Hamas. Egypt won't have them.

    They can't flee to Jordan. Jordan expelled all Palestinians after Black September.

    As you can see. The Palestinians have made themselves no favours aligning themselves with Hamas and before then the PLO.

    Why should they have to flee to Egypt?..what right does Israel have to keep 1.8 million people locked up in an open prison camp? what right do they have to do that. do you understand the concept of collective punishment..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    WakeUp wrote: »
    You said the rockets are a good excuse to pummel them all into oblivion once and for all ..what did you mean by that? this situation certainly would not be tolerated anywhere else on the planet let it be an eye opener to all as to the sort of people "leading" our world.

    That is how it is seen by the West. They are using the rockets simply as an excuse to pummell them into oblivion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Rightwing wrote: »
    the Egyptians yes, not the Israelis. These rockets are an excellent excuse to pummell them into oblivion for once and for all.
    Are you forgetting your sarcastic smiley or are you just simply inciting hatred?
    WakeUp wrote: »
    What facts are you stating?..that the Palestinians should be pummelled once and for all..what do you mean by that?..

    Looks like your are all turning against each other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,406 ✭✭✭Phonehead


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Of course Hamas.

    They can't flee to Egypt because of Hamas. Egypt won't have them.

    They can't flee to Jordan. Jordan expelled all Palestinians after Black September.

    As you can see. The Palestinians have made themselves no favours aligning themselves with Hamas and before then the PLO.

    Yep, just like the Irish people supporting and aligning themselves with Sinn Fein in 1918


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Buzz Killington the third


    Rightwing wrote: »
    That is how it is seen by the West. They are using the rockets simply as an excuse to pummell them into oblivion.
    You're making points as if they're your own view. Are they?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    Israel is responsible for keeping the borders around Gaza sealed tight, thus preventing Hamas militants from blowing themselves up on Israeli buses and restocking their classroom bunkers with more rockets. It is entirely an Israeli policy to keep those borders tightly secured.

    This is a tragedy, because it means that the people of Gaza cannot live free and productive lives.

    So regardless of the excuses you care to put forward for collective punishment you've just openly admitted that Israel is responsible for legislating and enforcing that collective punishment upon the people of Gaza. The people of Gaza can't live a free and productive life because Israel has them penned up in an open air prison camp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    WakeUp wrote: »
    Why should they have to flee to Egypt?..what right does Israel have to keep 1.8 million people locked up in an open prison camp? what right do they have to do that. do you understand the concept of collective punishment..

    The right to keep the Israeli citizens safe from terrorist attacks from with in Gaza.

    The population of Gaza voted to have terrorist represent them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,300 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Israel is responsible for keeping the borders around Gaza sealed tight, thus preventing Hamas militants from blowing themselves up on Israeli buses and restocking their classroom bunkers with more rockets. It is entirely an Israeli policy to keep those borders tightly secured.

    This is a tragedy, because it means that the people of Gaza cannot live free and productive lives.

    Why is it Israels responsibility to 'seal' in the Palestinians.


    Youve basically said Israel is akin to Nazi Germans circa 1942


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Highflyer13


    Operation Protective Edge

    f*cking hell...



    That's it then, they're going to flatten the whole of Gaza!

    Without a shadow of doubt. Its disgusting what they can get away with. Im surprised at how quiet Europe have been over this issue. No leadership coming out of EU to criticise the Israeli actions. I'd like us to stand on our own two feet for once and distance ourselves from the American agenda. What is going on in Gaza is just plain wrong. Pure and simple.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Looks like your are all turning against each other.

    Eh what?? I think you're a little confused there...quoting out of context or have you done that on purpose?..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    I'm sorry?

    How did you make out that I wasn't interested in evidence of war crimes? Any deliberate targeting of civilians is deplorable and should be treated as such, regardless of the valid right of any nation to defend itself.


    Why did you make the false claim that Hamas are allies with ISIS? Why didn't you withdraw it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    listermint wrote: »
    Why is it Israels responsibility to 'seal' in the Palestinians.


    Youve basically said Israel is akin to Nazi Germans circa 1942

    Man your're on some Nazi trip…


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭user2011


    Israel implements the policy because Hamas gives it little choice.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/gaza-israel_b_5624401.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

    Posted this last night, I'll post again hopefully it helps you and others..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    You're making points as if they're your own view. Are they?

    They are my view as in that's the reality of the situation that is unfolding.

    Is it what I want to see happening: NO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    WakeUp wrote: »
    Eh what?? I think you're a little confused there...quoting out of context or have you done that on purpose?..

    I think you guys are the ones that are confused ;)

    The OP you guys are attacking was criticising Israel for taking the current missile attacks as an opportunity raise Gaza. Not agreeing with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,300 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Man your're on some Nazi trip…

    That might be true, if this wasnt the first time i mentioned it.

    And that i only mentioned it against that comment about Israel responsibility.


    Anything else muffs ?

    muffy ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    Quote: Rightwing
    the Egyptians yes, not the Israelis. These rockets are an excellent excuse to pummell them into oblivion for once and for all.


    Quote: Buzz Killington the third
    Are you forgetting your sarcastic smiley or are you just simply inciting hatred?


    Quote: WakeUp
    What facts are you stating?..that the Palestinians should be pummelled once and for all..what do you mean by that?..

    mad muffin wrote: »
    Looks like your are all turning against each other.

    So about that. are you going to explain have you came to that conclusion... explain yourself..I assume you can read and have been following the conversation so your statement "looks like you are all turning on each other" makes absolutely zero sense .or is it a deliberate attempt on your part to distort and deceive?...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    listermint wrote: »
    That might be true, if this wasnt the first time i mentioned it.

    And that i only mentioned it against that comment about Israel responsibility.


    Anything else muffs ?

    muffy ?

    Oh if you only knew what the hell you were talking about…


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