Palestinaisn being slaughtered and a prick with a cowboy hat is on frint page

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jank wrote: »

That is a nonsensical response that plays to emotion rather than logic and reason. What benefit or gain does Israel have in deliberately killing children. Seriously, there is no tangible benefit militarily in killing children unless of course you want to be totally ruthless and kill all male children under 16 in some sort of biblical genocide. Israel are certainly not doing that and are not deliberately targeting children. To state that opinion as a fact is a lie unless evidence to the contrary emerges that contradicts it.

either they are deliberately targeting children or the military is completely incompetent meaning lots of children being murdered, which is it

WakeUp

mad muffin wrote: »

I think you guys are the ones that are confused

The OP you guys are attacking was criticising Israel for taking the current missile attacks as an opportunity raise Gaza. Not agreeing with it.

But he didn't make that clear if that is indeed what he meant. and disagreeing with someone does not equate to turning on them.

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jank wrote: »

Dead children is evidence of many things but a deliberate action on behalf of the Israeli state in targeting them is not it. You made the original claim yet for all your bluster, pictures, claim to emotion not one shred of evidence has emerged that the IDF or the Israeli government are deliberately targeting children.

so the military are incompetent then?

listermint

mad muffin wrote: »

Oh if you only knew what the hell you were talking about…

I love it when a plan comes together.

Youve lost your ability to coherently respond. And now you are mixing up other posters with mine. Confusing yourself off the company line.

Its such a shame, your posts were doing so well with repetition im sure somebody out there was begging to take them seriously.


Or perhaps not.

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I Heart Internet wrote: »

I suspect a combination of mistakes, bad (perhaps criminal) decision making by the Israeli military and, of course, the fact that Hamas use civilian buildings to stage attacks on Israel from.

civilians are never legitimate targets, civilian buildings are never legitimate targets, israel is deliberately targeting civilians, thats the way they have always done things, the evidence is there

Rightwing

WakeUp wrote: »

But he didn't make that clear if that is indeed what he meant. and disagreeing with someone does not equate to turning on them.

The previous poster is correct.

Hamas has isolated itself from its traditional allies, Syria, Iran and Egypt. They've left themselves more vulnerable now, than at any time in the past. Hence, the rockets are a good excuse for an onslaught.

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I Heart Internet wrote: »

Tells one a lot about Hamas, they are untouchables. The only country crazy enough to support them is one that wants to have a World Cup in 55 degree heat. And, of course, the new caliphate.

there is no new caliphate, just like hamas and isis aren't allies, are you going to withdraw the clame hamas and isis are allies?

mad muffin

listermint wrote: »

I love it when a plan comes together.

Youve lost your ability to coherently respond. And now you are mixing up other posters with mine. Confusing yourself off the company line.

Its such a shame, your posts were doing so well with repetition im sure somebody out there was begging to take them seriously.


Or perhaps not.

What ever you say.

You do realise that bringing up anything to do with comparing something with Nazi's automatically invalidates your argument?

I might have been confused with posters names, as so many of you are bringing up Nazi's like you know what you're talking about.

mad muffin

end of the road wrote: »

there is no new caliphate, just like hamas and isis aren't allies, are you going to withdraw the clame hamis and isis are allies?

What does it matter? Hamas. ISIS. IRA. They're all the same.

listermint

mad muffin wrote: »

What ever you say.

You do realise that bringing up anything to do with comparing something with Nazi's automatically invalidates your argument?

I might have been confused with posters names, as so many of you are bringing up Nazi's like you know what you're talking about.

Explain how that is?

The Nazi's herded unfortunate Jewish population into a ghetto situation where they controlled the borders and let only what they wanted in or out.

What right does Israel have to control the borders of another people ?


Is this not a fair comparison considering the Jewish history in this respect.

Or are you afraid of legitimate discussion.

Perhaps its easier to get confused with other posters, then cause confusion, deflect a bit , deflect a bit more and then finally call some one antisemetic for making a legitimate comparison ? Is this your next step ?


As i said, what right does Israel have to control all of Palestinian borders including International waters ?

Buzz Killington the third

mad muffin wrote: »

What does it matter? Hamas. ISIS. IRA. They're all the same.

What an intelligent post...

Phonehead

mad muffin wrote: »

What does it matter? Hamas. ISIS. IRA. They're all the same.

LOL this coming from the guy who claims those making Nazi and Israeli comparisons are uneducated! LOL... we soooo need a dunce hat smilie:D

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jank wrote: »

No evidence to prove otherwise therefore i am right.

lots of evidence to prove it so your wrong

wes

mad muffin wrote: »

In a sense. Yes.

No, the Irish government isn't..........

mad muffin wrote: »

Just look at what they did to that poor blonde Roma children.

That was awful, but hardly comparable to killing 100s of children.

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jank wrote: »

So there is an official policy by the IDF to target women and children, care to show me this official policy?

the evidence is there to prove they deliberately target women and children, end of discussion

mad muffin

listermint wrote: »

Explain how that is?

The Nazi's hearded unfortunate Jewish population into a ghetto situation where they controlled the borders and let only what they wanted in or out.

What right does Israel have to control the borders of another people ?


Is this not a fair comparison considering the Jewish history in this respect.

Or are you afraid of legitimate discussion.

Perhaps its easier to get confused with other posters, then cause confusion, deflect a bit , deflect a bit more and then finally call some one antisemetic for making a legitimate comparison ? Is this your next step ?


As i said, what right does Israel have to control all of Palestinian borders including International waters ?

Israel are controlling their own borders. Why don't you tell me why Egypt has closed off their borders to Gaza?

And no. Nazi Germany is not the same as Gaza. The Jews lived peacefully within those borders that Nazi Germany saw fit to control. Not to mention the local population of those countries was more than happy to help exterminate every possible Jew. So no it's not remotely the same.

I Heart Internet

listermint wrote: »

Why is it Israels responsibility to 'seal' in the Palestinians.

The Israeli Government cares for the welfare of its civilians so it is responsible for ensuring Hamas are hampered in spreading terror to Israeli towns and cities.

Hamas don't give a **** about the civilians under its care, so pretty much anything goes.

I Heart Internet

Nodin wrote: »

Why did you make the false claim that Hamas are allies with ISIS? Why didn't you withdraw it?

Hi Nodin.

Because it's true, Hamas and ISIS are allies.

mad muffin

Buzz Killington the third wrote: »

What an intelligent post...

Phonehead wrote: »

LOL this coming from the guy who claims those making Nazi and Israeli comparisons are uneducated! LOL... we soooo need a dunce hat smilie:D

What exactly is the difference between them? Are they not all terrorist organisations? Ready to kill innocent people to further their cause?

But if you're happy to equate Israel to Nazi Germany, I think the cap must be yours.

tayto lover

WakeUp wrote: »

United Nations workers killed as Israel steps up Gaza attacks:

"Two employees of the United Nation's main agency in Gaza were killed on Tuesday as Israel stepped up its attacks on the enclave. "

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/middle-east-unrest/united-nations-workers-killed-israel-steps-gaza-attacks-n167346

Video: Gaza neighbourhood flattened by Israeli bombardment in a single hour:

"As Israel’s Operation Protective Edge stretches into the third week of fighting, the scale of the destruction in Gaza is made clear by a video purporting to show a neighbourhood in the Palestinian territory pounded by heavy bombardment."
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Video+Gaza+neighbourhood+flattened+Israeli+bombardment/10071981/story.html

I watched that video and to think that some fools on here want us to believe that Israel cares about civilian lives?? Hypocrites in the extreme.

Buzz Killington the third

mad muffin wrote: »

Nazi Germany is not the same as Gaza. The Jews lived peacefully within those borders that Nazi Germany saw fit to control. Not to mention the local population of those countries was more than happy to help exterminate every possible Jew. So no it's not remotely the same.

So you can't see any resemblance at all?

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jank wrote: »

These deaths do not equate to official policy. That is the key difference that people cannot understand. If it was official policy then there would be 100 times as many of deaths of this nature.

so the israely military are incompetent then?

I Heart Internet

end of the road wrote: »

there is no new caliphate, just like hamas and isis aren't allies, are you going to withdraw the clame hamis and isis are allies?

This guy begs to differ:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/06/abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-isis

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/06/isil-declares-new-islamic-caliphate-201462917326669749.html

listermint

mad muffin wrote: »

Israel are controlling their own borders. Why don't you tell me why Egypt has closed off their borders to Gaza?

And no. Nazi Germany is not the same as Gaza. The Jews lived peacefully within those borders that Nazi Germany saw fit to control. Not to mention the local population of those countries was more than happy to help exterminate every possible Jew. So no it's not remotely the same.

You've drawn up my exact comparison. You make me laugh each time you post.



Israel have ZERO rights to block international waters or the borders on Palestinians.

Nodin

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Hi Nodin.

Because it's true, Hamas and ISIS are allies.

Then wheres your evidence?

listermint

Nodin wrote: »

Then wheres your evidence?

In his other jeans. They are in the wash.

Phonehead

mad muffin wrote: »

What exactly is the difference between them? Are they not all terrorist organisations? Ready to kill innocent people to further their cause?

But if you're happy to equate Israel to Nazi Germany, I think the cap must be yours.

Nope, never said that... I said you are the very same as those claiming Nazi Germany is the same as Israel... hands hat back... do you need instructions how to use it?

I Heart Internet

Nodin wrote: »

Then wheres your evidence?

Their shared MO, motivations, religious and political extremism.

They are both terrorist islamists who hate Israel, the West and even their own people.

davmol

The IDF are indiscriminate murderers.Anyone who thinks otherwise are delufing them selves.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10204269146351996&id=1328373043

look at the above testimony from an ISRAELI ,it gives an insight into the shejaya neighbourhood massacre of innocent palestinians.

Anyone that moved got targeted.

Anyone who can justify or deny this is a sick sick individual.

IDF=murdering scum...FACT!!

mad muffin

listermint wrote: »

You've drawn up my exact comparison. You make me laugh each time you post.



Israel have ZERO rights to block international waters or the borders on Palestinians.

No. It is you who make me laugh.