Palestinaisn being slaughtered and a prick with a cowboy hat is on frint page

Gringo180

jank wrote: »

Two points. Hamas deliberately fire their rockets from built up urban areas including schools which the UN condemned Hamas for twice....
Israel issued warnings to civilians prior to the ground invasion yet Hamas issued orders for them to stay. Many ignored this order.


Now tell me, why would Hamas do two of the above.

This bollockss of Hamas using there civilians as human shields is absolute garbage. Ireland is 236 times the size of Gaza and has just over double the population. Gaza is one of the most over populated places on the planet.

WakeUp

mad muffin wrote: »

Good. I'm glad you guys can spot a ridicules argument. Pretty much like most of this thread.

mad muffin wrote: »

Good. I'm glad you guys can spot a ridicules argument. Pretty much like most of this thread.

So about that proof you claim to have?..what are you going to prove..will you demonstrate this proof by evidence or argument...either or will suffice?...

comongethappy

Gringo180 wrote: »

Gaza is one of the most over populated places on the planet.

Gaza pop Density: 5,000 per sq km
Dublin pop density: 4,600 per sq km.

And dublin is far from dense.

user2011

mad muffin wrote: »

Good. I'm glad you guys can spot a ridicules argument. Pretty much like most of this thread.

So instead of looking to get away from the "ridiculousness" of the argument you add to it and now think you're the better one? Okay..

I Heart Internet

Gringo180 wrote: »

This bollockss of Hamas using there civilians as human shields is absolute garbage. Ireland is 236 times the size of Gaza and has just over double the population. Gaza is one of the most over populated places on the planet.

So there was absolutely nowhere else to store rockets except in schools?

http://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-releases/unrwa-condemns-placement-rockets-second-time-one-its-schools

dav3

To try to counteract the deliberate thread derailing. Below are some links that people might find useful, as I know the majority of Irish people feel the need to do something.

The first links to a petition to expel the Israeli ambassador to Ireland

Petition Link



The second links to website detailing the boycott of Israeli goods

Individual consumers can show their opposition to Israel’s Apartheid policies against the Palestinian people and violations of international law by participating in a consumer boycott of Israeli goods and services. A boycott can also put pressure on companies whose exports are linked to some of the most evident aspects of the Israeli occupation and apartheid.

The Israeli barcode starts with the numbers 729. However, it doesn’t necessarily appear on all Israeli products so be sure to always check the label for country of origin.

Boycott Link



The third link highlights upcoming events around the country.

Events Link

listermint

I Heart Internet wrote: »

So there was absolutely nowhere else to store rockets except in schools?

http://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-releases/unrwa-condemns-placement-rockets-second-time-one-its-schools

Of Course, Power Plants and also Childrends wings in hospitals. not to mention beaches.

They are my obvious choices.

I Heart Internet

dav3 - your post doesn't even mention Garth Brooks - you're derailing the thread

greenflash

Gringo180 wrote: »

This bollockss of Hamas using there civilians as human shields is absolute garbage. Ireland is 236 times the size of Gaza and has just over double the population. Gaza is one of the most over populated places on the planet.

The Netherlands has a population of +16 million living on landmass roughly the same size as Leinster. Ireland is very underpopulated for a modern country and therefore a pointless comparison.

Cienciano

No doubt that if boards.ie and After Hours was around during the holocaust, we'd have a few defending what the Nazi's did. Unbelievable that some people are actually defending Israel in this thread.

Buzz Killington the third

I Heart Internet wrote: »

http://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-releases/unrwa-condemns-placement-rockets-second-time-one-its-schools

This article was mentioned before and when pointed out that there was no proof of evidence other than that one article which doesn't even contain photos of any weapons found the thread was derailed into a farcical story about Hamas not allowing people to photograph them... which has nothing to do with finding a weapons stash!

I Heart Internet

Buzz Killington the third wrote: »

This article was mentioned before and when pointed out that there was no proof of evidence other than that one article which doesn't even contain photos of any weapons found the thread was derailed into a farcical story about Hamas not allowing people to photograph them... which has nothing to do with finding a weapons stash!

It's a UN agency ffs. I think we can accept that there were some rockets found in a number of schools.

Buzz Killington the third

I Heart Internet wrote: »

It's a UN agency ffs. I think we can accept that there were some rockets found in a number of schools.

All I'm saying is that since this has started, there's been no solid evidence to show weapons found. The Israelis just say they've found some and then blow up the building and don't care who's inside.

mad muffin

greenflash wrote: »

The Netherlands has a population of +16 million living on landmass roughly the same size as Leinster. Ireland is very underpopulated for a modern country and therefore a pointless comparison.

No doubt someone will come along and proclaim this Israeli propaganda.

tayto lover

I Heart Internet wrote: »

It's a UN agency ffs. I think we can accept that there were some rockets found in a number of schools.

So kill all the children then and make every Israeli and their followers happy?
Is that what you want? Is it fair game to bomb the school with all the children in it because someone left weapons there?

You need to cop on.

mad muffin

Cienciano wrote: »

No doubt that if boards.ie and After Hours was around during the holocaust, we'd have a few defending what the Nazi's did. Unbelievable that some people are actually defending Israel in this thread.

You dare compare the two? Jesus Christ!

comongethappy

Buzz Killington the third wrote: »

All I'm saying is that...there's been no solid evidence to show weapons found.

So when Ban Ki Moon expresses alarm that weapons are found at 2 UN ran schools, found by the UN themselves...... Thats irrelevant?

I Heart Internet

tayto lover wrote: »

So kill all the children then and make every Israeli and their followers happy?
Is that what you want? Is it fair game to bomb the school with all the children in it because someone left weapons there?

You need to cop on.

No it's not.

Hamas ARE using schools as military outposts, that's clear, Israel attempts to remove this threat but must, at the same time, warn civilians of the danger by leaflets and warning strikes.

I'd prefer if zero schools were ever hit, ever. But if Hamas persist in hiding in them, then I'd prefer that Israel warn civilians of strikes. It's a disaster and a tragedy either way, but at least the Israeli's make some attempt to save civilian lives, Hamas simply don't care.

listermint

I Heart Internet wrote: »

No it's not.

Hamas ARE using schools as military outposts, that's clear, Israel attempts to remove this threat but must, at the same time, warn civilians of the danger by leaflets and warning strikes.

I'd prefer if zero schools were ever hit, ever. But if Hamas persist in hiding in them, then I'd prefer that Israel warn civilians of strikes. It's a disaster and a tragedy either way, but at least the Israeli's make some attempt to save civilian lives, Hamas simply don't care.

No you wouldnt, Ye lads dont want peace.

The whole thing suits an agenda, greedy for land and a very small minority making billions off the war machine. Peace does not suit that agenda.

Meanwhile the 'normal' people on both sides are left to pick up the pieces.


farce!

Rhys Essien

comongethappy wrote: »

So when Ban Ki Moon expresses alarm that weapons are found at 2 UN ran schools, found by the UN themselves...... Thats irrelevant?

The school in question was closed for the summer,so said Channel 4 the other day.Its totally unacceptable to be hitting school's where people are sheltering.

Buzz Killington the third

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Hamas ARE using schools as military outposts, that's clear, Israel attempts to remove this threat but must, at the same time, warn civilians of the danger by leaflets and warning strikes.

Well that's ok then... a few small missiles and some junk mail before they kill everyone. Very good...

Ash.J.Williams

Israel.....Cop yourself on.....Palestine reject and overthrow hamas NOW......]



now /end thread...


ffs has anyone bothered reading the title of this thread?

bumper234

I Heart Internet wrote: »

No it's not.

Hamas ARE using schools as military outposts, that's clear, Israel attempts to remove this threat but must, at the same time, warn civilians of the danger by leaflets and warning strikes.

I'd prefer if zero schools were ever hit, ever. But if Hamas persist in hiding in them, then I'd prefer that Israel warn civilians of strikes. It's a disaster and a tragedy either way, but at least the Israeli's make some attempt to save civilian lives, Hamas simply don't care.

Utter codswallop

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/07/29/terrorism-israelgaza-context/

when Palestinians overwhelmingly kill soldiers (95% of the Israeli death toll) who are part of an army that is blockading, occupying, invading, and indiscriminately bombing them and killing their children by the hundreds, that is “terrorism”; when Israelis use massive, brutal force against a trapped civilian population, overwhelmingly killing innocent men, women and children (at least 75% of the Palestinian death toll), with clear intentions to kill civilians (see point 3), that is noble “self-defense.” 

rowanh

Cienciano wrote: »

No doubt that if boards.ie and After Hours was around during the holocaust, we'd have a few defending what the Nazi's did. Unbelievable that some people are actually defending Israel in this thread.

I just read a few pages of this and was thinking exactly the same thing, for anyone that thinks there is any justification to what Israel are doing id recommend giving it a watch.

greenflash

I Heart Internet wrote: »

I'd prefer if zero schools were ever hit, ever. But if Hamas persist in hiding in them, then I'd prefer that Israel warn civilians of strikes. It's a disaster and a tragedy either way, but at least the Israeli's make some attempt to save civilian lives, Hamas simply don't care.

Hamas do care. They care that enough civilians, telegenic and photogenic women and children are in the firing line. There's two wars going on right now. In one Israel are using ordnance in an attempt to suppress or destroy Hamas and in the other, Hamas are using Palestinians lives to turn world opinion against Israel. I'm no Israeli apologist or supporter and I find Israel's expansion policy abhorrent but at least I'm not blinkered as to what's going on in Gaza right now.

War is disgusting no matter where it takes place and civilians usually bear the brunt of it.

Buzz Killington the third

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

ffs has anyone bothered reading the title of this thread?

yea, the OP spelled 'front' wrong :mad:

SterlingArcher

mad muffin wrote: »

You dare compare the two? Jesus Christ!

Israel is bathing in hypocrisy. And someone needs to pull the plug.

WakeUp

United Nations workers killed as Israel steps up Gaza attacks:

"Two employees of the United Nation's main agency in Gaza were killed on Tuesday as Israel stepped up its attacks on the enclave. "

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/middle-east-unrest/united-nations-workers-killed-israel-steps-gaza-attacks-n167346

Video: Gaza neighbourhood flattened by Israeli bombardment in a single hour:

"As Israel’s Operation Protective Edge stretches into the third week of fighting, the scale of the destruction in Gaza is made clear by a video purporting to show a neighbourhood in the Palestinian territory pounded by heavy bombardment."
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Video+Gaza+neighbourhood+flattened+Israeli+bombardment/10071981/story.html

Buzz Killington the third

Operation Protective Edge

f*cking hell...

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned this week the war could be prolonged as the Israel Defence Forces carry out their declared objective of destroying the rocket-launching infrastructure of Hamas, as well as a sophisticated system of tunnels the militant group has built to infiltrate Israeli territory.

That's it then, they're going to flatten the whole of Gaza!

I Heart Internet

listermint wrote: »

No you wouldnt, Ye lads dont want peace.

Yes I would and yes I do.

listermint wrote: »

The whole thing suits an agenda, greedy for land and a very small minority making billions off the war machine. Peace does not suit that agenda.

Yeah, my thirst for land in a country I've never been to and the profits of my arms manufacturing plants are to the forefront of my mind when I criticise Hamas.