Everybody else in the family is at the Commonwealth Games, so why aren't we?

Fratton Fred · 29-07-2014 12:10AM

The Golden Miller wrote: »

You, when you said we feel morally superior for not taking part.

As for your second point, take a look in the mirror

Yep, bitter indeed.

The Golden Miller · 29-07-2014 12:13AM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Yep, bitter indeed.

Yep, be disingenuous and side-track every genuine point. The calling card of a British sympathiser

Karl Stein · 29-07-2014 12:17AM

LorMal wrote: »

Good Lord, you are bitter.

You may as well have just said 'so's your face' for the lack of intellectual effort you mustered to produce such a 'response'.

As tGM has said it's the OP who is coming across as the one with the chip on his shoulder because those he fawns over, as an Irish Unionist, were forced out of the majority of the island. If this thread is anything to go by Irish people either don't give a shit about this archaic club or actively want nothing to do with it.

Get over it.

Move on.

Stop being bitter.

Nodin · 29-07-2014 12:20AM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

You mean it's not wanting to accept that the past is the past and it's time to move on.

But we accept the past is the past. That's why we don't want anything to do with a relic of Empire.

29-07-2014 12:49AM

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

Come on now, sport doesn't get more elite than Sri Lanka playing a game of quiddich against Namibia.

Or the Sri Lanka cycling team competing with other motorists down the nearby motorway :pac:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cycling/28446017

Mal-Adjusted · 29-07-2014 12:55AM

LorMal wrote: »

Good Lord, you are bitter.

where are you getting bitterness from? Or is it just that you don't agree with the post?

CrabRevolution · 29-07-2014 01:46AM

The pro-commonwealth argument appears to be "You Irish need to forget about the past and join this organisation, of which the membership is based on what happened in the past"

I also dont understand the "begrudgery" aspect. How can we begrudge someone something which we dont want or care about? The RoI has nothing to do with the games, they dont complain, dont protest, dont ask anything of them.

We just get on with our lives and leave the CW at it. According to our unionist brothers that's the height of bitterness, begrudgery and having a chip on your shoulder, for which we should be giving a grovelling apology to the UK.

TGJD · 29-07-2014 02:43AM

Why is this thread still open? From what I can see it's just going around in circles with some people either trolling or unable to understand basic facts. The question has been answered, we are not competing because we are not now, nor ever will be in the commonwealth. Ffs we may as well be arguing about why we aren't in the pan american games.

P_1 · 29-07-2014 02:48AM

One thing to consider is that if people want to get a 32 County Ireland you kind of have to make the idea seem appealing to a fairly substantial proportion of the population up North. Having Ireland in the Commonwealth is one way of doing this.

mikeyjames9 · 29-07-2014 06:28AM

has britain apologized to all these peoples for the crimes committed during the colonial era

i know they recently gave an apology for the crimes against the mau mau

Fratton Fred · 29-07-2014 07:31AM

CrabRevolution wrote: »

I also dont understand the "begrudgery" aspect. How can we begrudge someone something which we dont want or care about? The RoI has nothing to do with the games, they dont complain, dont protest, dont ask anything of them. .

I suspect the majority of people in India don't care who wins the Sam Maguire this year, but I doubt very much they would go to great lengths ridiculing the GAA or Ireland.

Not caring is fine, but putting it down and calling it an irrelevant sports day is pathetic and just comes across as petty begrudery.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 29-07-2014 10:52AM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I suspect the majority of people in India don't care who wins the Sam Maguire this year, but I doubt very much they would go to great lengths ridiculing the GAA or Ireland.

Not caring is fine, but putting it down and calling it an irrelevant sports day is pathetic and just comes across as petty begrudery.

It's turning this into an 'oppressive Empire' debate that gets me. I don't give a **** about history - all it does is harbour hate.

We're not a part of it, and there's no real advantage of being a part of it.

Games or no games.

Jimoslimos · 29-07-2014 11:56AM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I suspect the majority of people in India don't care who wins the Sam Maguire this year, but I doubt very much they would go to great lengths ridiculing the GAA or Ireland.

Not caring is fine, but putting it down and calling it an irrelevant sports day is pathetic and just comes across as petty begrudery.

Poor analogy. Perhaps if all the people of India were being badgered to subscribe as GAA members just so they could submit a U21 ladies camogie team to compete against Leitrim in the first round of the championship....perhaps then yes they would have good cause to ridicule it.

Most sporting competitions are, in the grand scheme of things, irrelevant. I'll still watch most of them, Ireland or not, and yes that includes the CG. Pointing out that these games are at the lower end of the scale and of little concern to elite athletes isn't begrudgery, but a response to those who overplay its relevance.

Sunnyisland · 29-07-2014 01:07PM

The Golden Miller wrote: »

How are we morally superior for not taking part? Where are you getting this general consensus from? Infact, I've yet to hear anyone talk about it outside a few bits in the media. People don't give a fcuk that it's on one way or the other, lest not care enough for any "I feel morally superior to Britain" bull****.

How do I as an Irish person have a chip on my shoulder because I don't want to be associated to Britain or the Commonwealth? I like their people, many of them are the salt of the earth types, some c*nts, some alright, just like in any country. But I'm Irish, they are British and that's that. And I think most people feel the same.

So how do we have a chip on our shoulder as a nation? Cause some little unionist posh boy's D4 family, who got left behind in Dublin after partition, and fawns over everything British, says so? And looks for non-existent, anti-British sentiments and tries to blow them out of proportion at every chance, to show how we're a nation of Celtic jersey wearing, British hating, armchair republicans with some inferiority complex to Britain? Who's really the one with the chip on their shoulder?

Well said sir.

Bog Standard User · 29-07-2014 01:08PM

LordSutch wrote: »

France is not part of the Commonwealth family of Nations.

neither is ireland since we got independence

TheQuietFella · 29-07-2014 01:13PM

mikeyjames9 wrote: »

has britain apologized to all these peoples for the crimes committed during the colonial era

i know they recently gave an apology for the crimes against the mau mau

Will the governments of this nation give an apology for the treatment of their citizens?
What an unholy & ungodly shower of b........

An Claidheamh · 29-07-2014 02:15PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

If only there was a gold medal for carrying chip on shoulders, or sour grape harvesting.

Yeah.

Add in delusions, and longing for the past and England might be able to beat Australia in the medals tally.

Fratton Fred · 29-07-2014 05:38PM

Some vinegar for your chips.

http://www.europeangeostrategy.org/2014/01/european-geostrategy-audit-major-powers-worlds-fifteen-most-powerful-countries-2014/

wazky · 29-07-2014 05:46PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Some vinegar for your chips.

http://www.europeangeostrategy.org/2014/01/european-geostrategy-audit-major-powers-worlds-fifteen-most-powerful-countries-2014/

The UK in good company at the top with China, Russia and the US.

Only Israel and North Korea are missing to complete the full house.

Nodin · 29-07-2014 05:46PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Some vinegar for your chips.

http://www.europeangeostrategy.org/2014/01/european-geostrategy-audit-major-powers-worlds-fifteen-most-powerful-countries-2014/

Whats that to do with anything?

Reekwind · 29-07-2014 05:53PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Some vinegar for your chips.

http://www.europeangeostrategy.org/2014/01/european-geostrategy-audit-major-powers-worlds-fifteen-most-powerful-countries-2014/

I guess that defending the merits of the Commonwealth (albeit via silly ad hominems) was too much even for you, Fred? Hence the switch to (fairly absurd) flag waving in the hope of getting a rise.

Jimoslimos · 29-07-2014 05:54PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Some vinegar for your chips.

http://www.europeangeostrategy.org/2014/01/european-geostrategy-audit-major-powers-worlds-fifteen-most-powerful-countries-2014/

Not sure what point you're trying to make....I mean when surveys and ranking tables are posted with Ireland at the top (or bottom) we're constantly reminded of how needy for the world's approval we seem to be.

Karl Stein · 29-07-2014 06:07PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Some vinegar for your chips.

http://www.europeangeostrategy.org/2014/01/european-geostrategy-audit-major-powers-worlds-fifteen-most-powerful-countries-2014/

Why did you bring that up Fred?

Are you feeling insecure?

A Dub in Glasgo · 29-07-2014 06:10PM

Thread has officially turned into Top Trumps, the new sport for the 2018 Commonwealth Games

Fratton Fred · 29-07-2014 06:10PM

Simple reminder to a certain poster that the UK isn't the washed up little has been he likes to think it is.

Good to see it riled the usual heads as well.

An Claidheamh · 29-07-2014 06:12PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Simple reminder to a certain poster that the UK isn't the washed up little has been he likes to think it is.

Good to see it riled the usual heads as well.

Sure it was. :rolleyes:

Nodin · 29-07-2014 06:16PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Simple reminder to a certain poster that the UK isn't the washed up little has been he likes to think it is.

Good to see it riled the usual heads as well.

Bit odd you didn't quote the "certain poster" when you put it up there. What poster was it for?

An Claidheamh · 29-07-2014 06:17PM

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Thread has officially turned into Top Trumps, the new sport for the 2018 Commonwealth Games

Don't be silly...

It would take the gloss away from lawn bowls.:)

Fratton Fred · 29-07-2014 06:41PM

An Claidheamh wrote: »

DeValera didn't want to leave the British empire...sorry Commonwealth because the North was not part of Ireland yet. He didn't like British imperialists, monarchy, etc. He wanted to wait until then.

Could you tell us LordSutch what politicians today want Ireland to join the lost colonies of Britain?

It's not the fact that Britain had an empire that I find insulting. That was long ago.

It's the fact that they try to paint themselves as once a leader of a group "of nations" promoting democracy or some other nonsense.

They have a problem with the EU, but not with the British commonwealth ...strange.

Will be hilarious when so many of these "athletes" claim asylum.

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Video won't play: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Aj3KZa1ZCM

I think this sums up the mickey mouse Olympics, Sutch.

"Netball ....like Basketball without the rights."

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Mozambique vs Gibraltar in the Lawn Bowls?

An Claidheamh wrote: »

They race for Ireland in real championships.

Host a British fake Olympics?

To get a velodrome?

Some Irish people ...

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Is that all they can aspire to these days?

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Britain can't militarily dominate countries anymore ....so we should "mature" and let them be the "head" of something.

Maybe one day they might mature and join the Eu.

The laughable thing is that you try to claim that we ought to join so we can have links with the Third World, the former mass territory of the British empire.

If the cultural and financial links are so great, why did Britain join the EU?

Why do Britain have so much trade with us and not India, Gibraltar or Mozambique?

The British commonwealth is a joke Berserker.

Most British people know it's a farce, feel it's clinging on to past grandeur, and these games are an embarrassment.

(Usain Bolt has already refused to run in his main event. )

I think you know too. :rolleyes:

This sums up what everybody thinks:

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Sssshhhhh Reekwind.

Very close to addressing the ...

http://www.ahigherself.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/elephant-in-the-room-2.jpg

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Who are you trying to kid Sutch?

Us or yourself?

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Yeah, but the Brits reek of desperation to get their full empire back.

They'd probably just give Ireland medals.

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Of course there aren't.

In fact, most of the athletes in Glasgow are being followed by police for fear they will go AWOL.

You couldn't make it up.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jul/16/two-cameroon-wrestlers-missing-aberdeen-commonwealth-games

That's how they treat their "equals".

Yet Europeans can effectively walk in and out of Britain as we wish.

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Yeah.

Add in delusions, and longing for the past and England might be able to beat Australia in the medals tally.

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Don't be silly...

It would take the gloss away from lawn bowls.:)

Clear enough now Nodin?

Nodin · 29-07-2014 06:44PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Clear enough now Nodin?

So you decided to wave a big dick at him. Very clever.

Everybody else in the family is at the Commonwealth Games, so why aren't we?

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