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Good man paudie,make sure to cement your place by browning your tongue even more!! A f**king farce! Dillon was completely anonymous for the u21,hasn't played well all year,Sullivan is just not intercounty standard but yet here we go again both start. How many more times does McGrath have to keep persevering with these to see they're not up to it. I can genuinely see them being booed off the field sat night if we're beaten such is the rage throughout the county about these selections,not to mention his tactics. Can imagine what molumphy is thinking at the moment he must be raging! This will be nothing short of a battle and you need horses for courses and this would be his forte. Outside of Sullivan throwing his hands up in the air looking for frees what else does he bring to the table?mahony has hid behind the free taking for alot of the championship aswell and needs to up his personal contribution from open play.
Christ if I wasn't sickened enough after the u21 this has really made me empty reach!! It stinks and is so obvious that either the other selectors have no say or are worse clowns than the one in charge!
jesus man, do you even follow county hurling at all?! not to mind club hurling which evidently you do not.
ill take u up on a few points here even though i feel im wasting my time after your highly ill informed and frankly ignorant comments;
1. paudie mahoney is the best club player in waterford last 3-4 years, has carried bgunner single handedly at senior level (that is senior club now not junior b divisional fas course stuff that you prob involve yourself with) - cue name dropping in reply.
2. it isnt just derek here, he has selectors too, dan shanahan, frank flannery and willie maher, 3 out of those 4 are highly respected coaches all throughout munster and the 4th is a legendary player from our greatest period in hurling. yet there is very much a throw the sihte at derek vibe on here. Just cos he hasnt come out yet and said "the management didnt hit the wides"
3. shane o sullivan under davy fitz was one of best midfielders in the country and v unlucky not to get an all star in 2009 i think it was, he had a super year then, he hasnt been at that level since and being frank about it i would question his position at times this year, infact he did stink the place up for periods against cork, but then i refer to point 2. if those men think he is good enough then he will play and if he is good enough for them then he is good enough for me & to be honest no better man to graft for you and put his shoulder down, he may not be the quickest, or the flashiest but he does a job and i have every confidence he will do another one saturday and will reserve judgement until then. But i presume he is training well and there fore that is why he is selected not some unseen blind loyalty you are pointing to, if thats the case why hasnt dan got maurice on the team?!
4. So what about the sihtty u21!?! the senior is a dam site more important saturday, the fact queally couldnt organise around it is more an inditement on him as a manager in his place in authority then it is on dillon. I am sure he was picked on senior team before u21 and there his priority lies. Again he has been a top top player for dls last 3-4 years if you followed local hurling you would know this and is more then worth his place on team, hurled v well in the fitz for wit but has struggled with form and injury since, if u doubt his ability and credentials then you my good man need to come in out of fog.
5. did mahoney not score 3pts from play in the last two games he played against cork (2 first day and 1 second?) that is more then colin dunford and shane walsh combined in both games yet mahoney gets the flack???! come off it pal will you engage the brain, get the stats and deal the facts before engaging the mouth and keyboard.... infact between dunford, walsh and prendergast only 4 pts scored inthose 2 games, mahoney has 3! Not counting laois game as it wasnt against a div1 side
6. horses for courses, really and truly on the total balance of club and county over last 3 years u think molumphy is a better option then sullivan? i would disagree, i will say shane has been poor this year so far but that isnt a true reflection on a guy that has been on county senior hurling panel since 2004! 10 years 4 different managers and each one of them played him in championship! Not too mention winning club championships and fitzgibbon cup championships, personally i think davy fitz, colm bonnar, justin mccarthy, derek mcgrath and ger cunninghams trained and educated hurling eyes and brains are a dam site better then yours, they all had shane playing on all victorious teams.
be more in your line, kept your keyboard quiet until after saturday evening, if they are beaten they are beaten and especially if they go about it negatively. but what if they go out and go 15 on 15 and are still beaten? is that specifically dereks fault then?
I am confident waterford will win, not alone win but by at least 5-6 points. I will be there supporting them in the stand or terrace wherever i get a ticket for and if they lose i wont be booing them off, i am not a soccer hooligan or a fundamentalist, it isnt a gaa thing to boo off amateurs who try their best, nor is it in my interest to abuse mgmt or individuals, if criticism needs to come fine, if questions need to be asked fine, but in a constructive manner. What boo them because they dont play the free flowing hurling we are supposedly entitled to?!
come on lad we only found our way to croke park 15 years or so ago put it in perspective we have some good young lads coming too, progress this year be an all ire q final or even a semi, but to get to croker be a serious achievement. go have a few bottles of pop for yourself saturday and a bag of chips after, go up with a bit of hope in your heart and not hate and support your county with gusto and stranger things have happened, shane and the rest of county team might surprise you and you can hold your cyncism for another day
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thesaturdayman wrote: »jesus man, do you even follow county hurling at all?! not to mind club hurling which evidently you do not.
ill take u up on a few points here even though i feel im wasting my time after your highly ill informed and frankly ignorant comments;
1. paudie mahoney is the best club player in waterford last 3-4 years, has carried bgunner single handedly at senior level (that is senior club now not junior b divisional fas course stuff that you prob involve yourself with) - cue name dropping in reply.
2. it isnt just derek here, he has selectors too, dan shanahan, frank flannery and willie maher, 3 out of those 4 are highly respected coaches all throughout munster and the 4th is a legendary player from our greatest period in hurling. yet there is very much a throw the sihte at derek vibe on here. Just cos he hasnt come out yet and said "the management didnt hit the wides"
3. shane o sullivan under davy fitz was one of best midfielders in the country and v unlucky not to get an all star in 2009 i think it was, he had a super year then, he hasnt been at that level since and being frank about it i would question his position at times this year, infact he did stink the place up for periods against cork, but then i refer to point 2. if those men think he is good enough then he will play and if he is good enough for them then he is good enough for me & to be honest no better man to graft for you and put his shoulder down, he may not be the quickest, or the flashiest but he does a job and i have every confidence he will do another one saturday and will reserve judgement until then. But i presume he is training well and there fore that is why he is selected not some unseen blind loyalty you are pointing to, if thats the case why hasnt dan got maurice on the team?!
4. So what about the sihtty u21!?! the senior is a dam site more important saturday, the fact queally couldnt organise around it is more an inditement on him as a manager in his place in authority then it is on dillon. I am sure he was picked on senior team before u21 and there his priority lies. Again he has been a top top player for dls last 3-4 years if you followed local hurling you would know this and is more then worth his place on team, hurled v well in the fitz for wit but has struggled with form and injury since, if u doubt his ability and credentials then you my good man need to come in out of fog.
5. did mahoney not score 3pts from play in the last two games he played against cork (2 first day and 1 second?) that is more then colin dunford and shane walsh combined in both games yet mahoney gets the flack???! come off it pal will you engage the brain, get the stats and deal the facts before engaging the mouth and keyboard.... infact between dunford, walsh and prendergast only 4 pts scored inthose 2 games, mahoney has 3! Not counting laois game as it wasnt against a div1 side
6. horses for courses, really and truly on the total balance of club and county over last 3 years u think molumphy is a better option then sullivan? i would disagree, i will say shane has been poor this year so far but that isnt a true reflection on a guy that has been on county senior hurling panel since 2004! 10 years 4 different managers and each one of them played him in championship! Not too mention winning club championships and fitzgibbon cup championships, personally i think davy fitz, colm bonnar, justin mccarthy, derek mcgrath and ger cunninghams trained and educated hurling eyes and brains are a dam site better then yours, they all had shane playing on all victorious teams.
be more in your line, kept your keyboard quiet until after saturday evening, if they are beaten they are beaten and especially if they go about it negatively. but what if they go out and go 15 on 15 and are still beaten? is that specifically dereks fault then?
I am confident waterford will win, not alone win but by at least 5-6 points. I will be there supporting them in the stand or terrace wherever i get a ticket for and if they lose i wont be booing them off, i am not a soccer hooligan or a fundamentalist, it isnt a gaa thing to boo off amateurs who try their best, nor is it in my interest to abuse mgmt or individuals, if criticism needs to come fine, if questions need to be asked fine, but in a constructive manner. What boo them because they dont play the free flowing hurling we are supposedly entitled to?!
come on lad we only found our way to croke park 15 years or so ago put it in perspective we have some good young lads coming too, progress this year be an all ire q final or even a semi, but to get to croker be a serious achievement. go have a few bottles of pop for yourself saturday and a bag of chips after, go up with a bit of hope in your heart and not hate and support your county with gusto and stranger things have happened, shane and the rest of county team might surprise you and you can hold your cyncism for another day
What a crock!
Everyone who knows anything or is involved in hurling in Waterford knows what's going on.
The selectors are split and the players are split and no bullsh*t from Paudie or Jake in Derek's defence is going to cover up this ****.
Brick is the captain, why is it so that it is always Mahony and Dillon are coming out to rally the troops.
Only a complete idiot would compare Stephen Molomphy and Shane Sullivan, in terms of anything.
Molomphy has walked the walk, , lieutenant in the army, , a born leader, an All Star, led a village side from Ballyduff to beat a city Ballygunner outfit with huge numbers, who for once Paul Flynn wasn't there to save.
What has Shane Sullivan and indeed Paudie Mahony ever done, apart from managing to split up Ballygunner by refusing to play for Andy Moloney and Colm Bonner.
The problem is now is that they are trying to do the same with our inter county team and we have a lightweight in charge who will allow them do it.
I can't believe that any self respecting manager would announce publicly that he has taken on an advisor. The problem that the advisor he picked is going to open a whole other can of worms is a debate for another day.
Christ Almighty, I've seen some things in Waterford hurling down through the years but I think Derek McGrath is the biggest ball of piss and wind I have ever come across.
Oh yeah, by the way for yourself who only discovered hurling, Waterford played a senior All Ireland final against Dublin in 1938. As I said in a previous post the Ballygunner crowd were still playing cricket for the local landlords at that time.
I think you will agree it's slightly more than fifteen years ago, but then again, that's when most of the gob****es in Ballygunner think they invented hurling in Waterford.0 -
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thesaturdayman wrote: »jesus man, do you even follow county hurling at all?! not to mind club hurling which evidently you do not.
ill take u up on a few points here even though i feel im wasting my time after your highly ill informed and frankly ignorant comments;
1. paudie mahoney is the best club player in waterford last 3-4 years, has carried bgunner single handedly at senior level (that is senior club now not junior b divisional fas course stuff that you prob involve yourself with) - cue name dropping in reply.
2. it isnt just derek here, he has selectors too, dan shanahan, frank flannery and willie maher, 3 out of those 4 are highly respected coaches all throughout munster and the 4th is a legendary player from our greatest period in hurling. yet there is very much a throw the sihte at derek vibe on here. Just cos he hasnt come out yet and said "the management didnt hit the wides"
3. shane o sullivan under davy fitz was one of best midfielders in the country and v unlucky not to get an all star in 2009 i think it was, he had a super year then, he hasnt been at that level since and being frank about it i would question his position at times this year, infact he did stink the place up for periods against cork, but then i refer to point 2. if those men think he is good enough then he will play and if he is good enough for them then he is good enough for me & to be honest no better man to graft for you and put his shoulder down, he may not be the quickest, or the flashiest but he does a job and i have every confidence he will do another one saturday and will reserve judgement until then. But i presume he is training well and there fore that is why he is selected not some unseen blind loyalty you are pointing to, if thats the case why hasnt dan got maurice on the team?!
4. So what about the sihtty u21!?! the senior is a dam site more important saturday, the fact queally couldnt organise around it is more an inditement on him as a manager in his place in authority then it is on dillon. I am sure he was picked on senior team before u21 and there his priority lies. Again he has been a top top player for dls last 3-4 years if you followed local hurling you would know this and is more then worth his place on team, hurled v well in the fitz for wit but has struggled with form and injury since, if u doubt his ability and credentials then you my good man need to come in out of fog.
5. did mahoney not score 3pts from play in the last two games he played against cork (2 first day and 1 second?) that is more then colin dunford and shane walsh combined in both games yet mahoney gets the flack???! come off it pal will you engage the brain, get the stats and deal the facts before engaging the mouth and keyboard.... infact between dunford, walsh and prendergast only 4 pts scored inthose 2 games, mahoney has 3! Not counting laois game as it wasnt against a div1 side
6. horses for courses, really and truly on the total balance of club and county over last 3 years u think molumphy is a better option then sullivan? i would disagree, i will say shane has been poor this year so far but that isnt a true reflection on a guy that has been on county senior hurling panel since 2004! 10 years 4 different managers and each one of them played him in championship! Not too mention winning club championships and fitzgibbon cup championships, personally i think davy fitz, colm bonnar, justin mccarthy, derek mcgrath and ger cunninghams trained and educated hurling eyes and brains are a dam site better then yours, they all had shane playing on all victorious teams.
be more in your line, kept your keyboard quiet until after saturday evening, if they are beaten they are beaten and especially if they go about it negatively. but what if they go out and go 15 on 15 and are still beaten? is that specifically dereks fault then?
I am confident waterford will win, not alone win but by at least 5-6 points. I will be there supporting them in the stand or terrace wherever i get a ticket for and if they lose i wont be booing them off, i am not a soccer hooligan or a fundamentalist, it isnt a gaa thing to boo off amateurs who try their best, nor is it in my interest to abuse mgmt or individuals, if criticism needs to come fine, if questions need to be asked fine, but in a constructive manner. What boo them because they dont play the free flowing hurling we are supposedly entitled to?!
come on lad we only found our way to croke park 15 years or so ago put it in perspective we have some good young lads coming too, progress this year be an all ire q final or even a semi, but to get to croker be a serious achievement. go have a few bottles of pop for yourself saturday and a bag of chips after, go up with a bit of hope in your heart and not hate and support your county with gusto and stranger things have happened, shane and the rest of county team might surprise you and you can hold your cyncism for another day
The ignorance you yourself accuse me of? If I am involved in a junior B club does that not give me the right to my opinion? Do you have to be from a senior club to have an expert view? As it happens I am on a FAS course through no fault of my own so keep your snotty opinions about that for the Uluru or Becketts or wherever ye drink over there.
Back to your harebrained defense of my points
Deal with this yr my good man Sullivan has been chronic. Jake Dillon this year has been chronic. So because of Sullivan been on the panel for 10 yrs,hurled well in 2009,we should start him in 2014?
Dillon played well in the fitz final- how many months ago was that? Has shown zero form and to compound my argument you reckon he was picked on the team ever before the u21 so no matter how poorly he played he was going to start anyway!
When I said they'll be booed off the pitch I meant the management not the players!
Stephen Molumphy, ALLSTAR,(not one of these fellas UNLUCKY not to get one)at this present stage,in my junior B opinion,is a better option for sat night.
As for Paudie,I'm not doubting his ability what I would be hoping for is a better input from open play. Your argument comparing him to Shane Walsh(2-1 against Laois),Dunford( first year on the team and work rate alot higher)is questionable.
I keep humming that tune" Money talks,money talks,dirty cash I want you dirty cash I need you wohoo"!!
You'd never know sat night when we win by 5-6 points I might even stretch to a can of Dutch gold and a kebab to celebrate!0 -
thesaturdayman wrote: »jesus man, do you even follow county hurling at all?! not to mind club hurling which evidently you do not.
ill take u up on a few points here even though i feel im wasting my time after your highly ill informed and frankly ignorant comments;
1. paudie mahoney is the best club player in waterford last 3-4 years, has carried bgunner single handedly at senior level (that is senior club now not junior b divisional fas course stuff that you prob involve yourself with) - cue name dropping in reply.
2. it isnt just derek here, he has selectors too, dan shanahan, frank flannery and willie maher, 3 out of those 4 are highly respected coaches all throughout munster and the 4th is a legendary player from our greatest period in hurling. yet there is very much a throw the sihte at derek vibe on here. Just cos he hasnt come out yet and said "the management didnt hit the wides"
3. shane o sullivan under davy fitz was one of best midfielders in the country and v unlucky not to get an all star in 2009 i think it was, he had a super year then, he hasnt been at that level since and being frank about it i would question his position at times this year, infact he did stink the place up for periods against cork, but then i refer to point 2. if those men think he is good enough then he will play and if he is good enough for them then he is good enough for me & to be honest no better man to graft for you and put his shoulder down, he may not be the quickest, or the flashiest but he does a job and i have every confidence he will do another one saturday and will reserve judgement until then. But i presume he is training well and there fore that is why he is selected not some unseen blind loyalty you are pointing to, if thats the case why hasnt dan got maurice on the team?!
4. So what about the sihtty u21!?! the senior is a dam site more important saturday, the fact queally couldnt organise around it is more an inditement on him as a manager in his place in authority then it is on dillon. I am sure he was picked on senior team before u21 and there his priority lies. Again he has been a top top player for dls last 3-4 years if you followed local hurling you would know this and is more then worth his place on team, hurled v well in the fitz for wit but has struggled with form and injury since, if u doubt his ability and credentials then you my good man need to come in out of fog.
5. did mahoney not score 3pts from play in the last two games he played against cork (2 first day and 1 second?) that is more then colin dunford and shane walsh combined in both games yet mahoney gets the flack???! come off it pal will you engage the brain, get the stats and deal the facts before engaging the mouth and keyboard.... infact between dunford, walsh and prendergast only 4 pts scored inthose 2 games, mahoney has 3! Not counting laois game as it wasnt against a div1 side
6. horses for courses, really and truly on the total balance of club and county over last 3 years u think molumphy is a better option then sullivan? i would disagree, i will say shane has been poor this year so far but that isnt a true reflection on a guy that has been on county senior hurling panel since 2004! 10 years 4 different managers and each one of them played him in championship! Not too mention winning club championships and fitzgibbon cup championships, personally i think davy fitz, colm bonnar, justin mccarthy, derek mcgrath and ger cunninghams trained and educated hurling eyes and brains are a dam site better then yours, they all had shane playing on all victorious teams.
be more in your line, kept your keyboard quiet until after saturday evening, if they are beaten they are beaten and especially if they go about it negatively. but what if they go out and go 15 on 15 and are still beaten? is that specifically dereks fault then?
I am confident waterford will win, not alone win but by at least 5-6 points. I will be there supporting them in the stand or terrace wherever i get a ticket for and if they lose i wont be booing them off, i am not a soccer hooligan or a fundamentalist, it isnt a gaa thing to boo off amateurs who try their best, nor is it in my interest to abuse mgmt or individuals, if criticism needs to come fine, if questions need to be asked fine, but in a constructive manner. What boo them because they dont play the free flowing hurling we are supposedly entitled to?!
come on lad we only found our way to croke park 15 years or so ago put it in perspective we have some good young lads coming too, progress this year be an all ire q final or even a semi, but to get to croker be a serious achievement. go have a few bottles of pop for yourself saturday and a bag of chips after, go up with a bit of hope in your heart and not hate and support your county with gusto and stranger things have happened, shane and the rest of county team might surprise you and you can hold your cyncism for another day
Answer me this- What did Ryan Donnelly do wrong in the Laois game to be substituted in the first half? When is he going to get the same chances to show his ability? What has Nagle done so much wrong that he's banished from the side? One bad game and thrown on the scrap heap. There's a fella that's on the panel with 6-7 yrs,played under all the different managers so why don't we start him eh?
The Maurice argument is that if he was fully fit I would have him on before Sullivan and Jake.
I'm delighted to see your defense of your clubmates but it must have rightly stuck in your throat when the appeal was mistakenly forgotten!! Talk about biting the hand that feeds you!!0 -
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