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Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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  • #6722
    Peppa Pig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    Red Nissan wrote: »
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    They have had an additional 5 planning permissions granted since phase 1 was granted.

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    These are all for 22nm technology. Chip production hasn't even started on any thing yet, just the early approval lots.
    The Israel plant is for 10nm.


  • #6723
    Reformed Character
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »
    If anyone is going be taking cyanide pills over this, it will be those that are currently foaming at the mouth in the naive hope that Brooks gets refused the licences for the two outstanding dates and then decides to play none of the concerts in protest.

    Course, that won't happen for many reasons, but mainly because the two gigs are sure to get licenced, it's just a matter of when for: either later in the week or at some point during the European leg of his World Tour.

    It's kinda sad to see so many people wishing that 160,000 ticket holders disappointed, let alone 400,000 of them.. even if they are obtusely and condescendingly seen as just a bunch of Wrangler wearing "gombeens" who are unlikely to ever become brain surgeons.
    Wake up, he already has been refused a licence, a decision which cannot be reviewed or appealed and new licence application requires 10 weeks notice.


  • #6724
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,265 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Reformed Character wrote: »
    The business community will see this as a positive thing, Ireland finally enforcing proper regulation.

    Right.. because all big businesses love a bit of government interference and prohibitive regulations /s


  • #6725
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,517 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    jack presley wrote: »
    Indo are at it too. Apparently Miriam O'Callaghan says one of his songs reminds her of her late sister.

    Genuinely?

    Don't let her start blubbing either or I'll be right there with her.


  • #6726
    Wishiwasa Littlebitaller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Wishiwasa Littlebitaller


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    And if 400,000 end up disappointed instead of 160,000, it's one mans fault.

    Your IF will never happen, no matter how much you'd like it to.. so don't concern yourself with it.

    Not that I believe for one second that you'd care a jot for the fans if that did occur mind.


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  • #6727
    jimgoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,202 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Right.. because all big businesses love a bit of government interference and prohibitive regulations /s

    Of course not. But what they do love is a set of well-known rules and regulations that are predictably and consistently applied and enforced.


  • #6728
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,517 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Yeah funny all this talk, when laws were designed or enforced in a way to suit minority interests in certain sectors it was seen as corrupt.


  • #6729
    Peppa Pig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Right.. because all big businesses love a bit of government interference and prohibitive regulations /s
    They all love our corporate tax rate and Garth Brooks will have zero effect on this.


  • #6730
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »
    If anyone is going be taking cyanide pills over this, it will be those that are currently foaming at the mouth in the naive hope that Brooks gets refused the licences for the two outstanding dates and then decides to play none of the concerts in protest.

    Course, that won't happen for many reasons, but mainly because the two gigs are sure to get licenced, it's just a matter of when for: either later in the week or at some point during the European leg of his World Tour.

    It's kinda sad to see so many people wishing that 160,000 ticket holders disappointed, let alone 400,000 of them.. even if they are obtusely and condescendingly seen as just a bunch of Wrangler wearing "gombeens" who are unlikely to ever become brain surgeons.

    You've taken that cyanide quote out of context. It was a continuation of an attempt at humour (failure obviously!) of how GB fans seem to see him as a David Koresh figure as they seem to be hypnotised by everything he says and accept everything as gospel.

    As for the rest of your reply, I'm not actually one hoping for all the gigs to be cancelled. I hope the 3 he has a licence for proceed and if he gets a licence for the other two to take place at a later date, that would be fine too as long as there are no bending of the rules or exemptions given.

    If they take place at the end of the world tour though, wouldn't that be a contradiction of what he's been claiming all along? That they have to be in one go?


  • #6731
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Genuinely?

    Don't let her start blubbing either or I'll be right there with her.

    It was on their twitter feed. There was even a video. I didn't click on it though which is why I'm not crying myself.


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  • #6732
    eeepaulo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭eeepaulo


    jack presley wrote: »
    It was a continuation of an attempt at humour (failure obviously!) of how GB fans seem to see him as a David Koresh figure as they seem to be hypnotised by everything he says and accept everything as gospel.

    Not gospel, country, huge difference


  • #6733
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    No one will ever know. Decisions are made in board rooms and negative decisions are never revealed except to other board members and executives.

    To understand business and how it works, one needs to read the unpublished trade magazines that circulate only within business. Breakfast meeting and economic forums are also a good barometer of the next decade and they typically give business a two year lead in of ramifications from a variety of reasons.

    Right, so you really think that in a season which has seen us make many international headlines and protests staged outside our international embassies decrying our disgusting treatment of women and children in our recent past and the lack of judicial enquiry now. Less than 2 years after we made many international headlines and saw numerous protests outside our international embassies and consulates about how we deny medical treatment to pregnant women. That a couple of gigs not getting a license makes us look bad?:pac:

    Just the fact that that's what people here think makes us look bad as the international community seeing the arse about tit priorities so many of us seem to have makes us look unworthy of respect.


  • #6734
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    jack presley wrote: »
    If they take place at the end of the world tour though, wouldn't that be a contradiction of what he's been claiming all along? That they have to be in one go?

    My take on this is that it would not arise. Either he loses these concerts because the current [cancelled] ticket holders won't rebook, or the bulk of them will travel to another venue and possibly reorganize their breaks to that other country.

    Only offering tickets for this hypothetical date in the future can answer that for sure.


  • #6735
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    iguana wrote: »
    Right, so you really think that in a season which has seen us make many international headlines and protests staged outside our international embassies t.

    Of course they do, one would be silly to think otherwise. BUT, these are not business related decisions, I would definitely consider the business community would add up all public relations about Ireland and the message could be emphatically driven home by a an otherwise trivial event.

    Like these Brooks concerts, yes, they have a manifestation beyond their importance.


  • #6736
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,457 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Red Nissan wrote: »

    Only offering tickets for this hypothetical date in the future can answer that for sure.

    Would that be before or after the licence application has been submitted? :D


  • #6737
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Would that be before or after the licence application has been submitted? :D

    :) Smile


  • #6738
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    My take on this is that it would not arise. Either he loses these concerts because the current [cancelled] ticket holders won't rebook, or the bulk of them will travel to another venue and possibly reorganize their breaks to that other country.

    Only offering tickets for this hypothetical date in the future can answer that for sure.

    But that doesn't answer the question. He says he needs the 5 gigs in a row, at the same venue to make it work (how anyone can take that claim seriously is beyond me but that's a different matter).

    So if the last 2 are moved to next year ir whenever, isn't he going against what he's said?


  • #6739
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Red Nissan wrote: »

    Like these Brooks concerts, yes, they have a manifestation beyond their importance.

    My favourite sentence in this thread to date.


  • #6740
    SeanW
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,421 ✭✭✭SeanW


    Peppa Pig wrote: »
    Yet again, please provide one shred of evidence.
    Red Nissan wrote: »
    Bye.
    Classy.

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    Help us in helping Ukraine.



  • #6741
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    jack presley wrote: »
    But that doesn't answer the question. He says he needs the 5 gigs in a row, at the same venue to make it work (how anyone can take that claim seriously is beyond me but that's a different matter).

    So if the last 2 are moved to next year ir whenever, isn't he going against what he's said?

    I think it does answer the question. We can't just take 160,000 cancelled tickets and move them around, these people are already entitled to refunds.

    I think Garth thinks he will lose these bookings if he does not do his five in a row, whether he chooses to abandon the whole thing or not, Aiken says we will know today, other sources, like radio and TV says the final decision won't be for tomorrow, whilst Twitter is adamant that the two concert cannot go ahead.


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  • #6742
    Wishiwasa Littlebitaller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Wishiwasa Littlebitaller


    jack presley wrote: »
    You've taken that cyanide quote out of context. It was a continuation of an attempt at humour (failure obviously!) of how GB fans seem to see him as a David Koresh figure as they seem to be hypnotised by everything he says and accept everything as gospel.
    Eh, no I didn't. You said what you did in a one line post and users that are reading the thread are aware of the context in which you said it, as they will have seen your previous post and so therefore would be fully aware of the context of my retort also.

    You quoted me when you made the David Koresh remark by the way, therefore implying that my post was some how suggestive of someone who was posting in a cult like fashion. You also implied that I believe everything the guy says, yet I am not even a Garth Brooks fan, nor had I any plans to attended one of the concerts and so your snide remark makes little or no sense but not just for that reason. They make no sense as I am not acting as if everything Garth Brooks said is true, in fact I have said the contrary, that what he said was NOT true and that he is just bluffing. So, maybe make some sense next time you post.
    If they take place at the end of the world tour though, wouldn't that be a contradiction of what he's been claiming all along? That they have to be in one go?
    Sure, but like I said: it makes sense to bluff / hardline at this stage. Accepting his fate, and the fate of the 160,000, that they won't have the two concerts before the rest of the world tour would be foolish. He, and the ticket holders, clearly would wish to have them before that and so he's trying his best to make that happen. If not, so be it, but it's certainly worth trying. He, nor the ticket holders created this mess and so no reason why they should be inconvenienced by it.

    He was due to announce the details of the world tour today, apparently, but that is now switched to Thursday where there will be a press conference at 4pm.

    Oh and that's a link to USAToday, where shock horror.. they mention the current debacle this side of the pond.


  • #6743
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/government-urged-to-save-garth-brooks-gigs-with-planning-laws-1.1858060

    Been posted already?


  • #6744
    beakerjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,020 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/government-urged-to-save-garth-brooks-gigs-with-planning-laws-1.1858060

    Been posted already?


    Seriously, is there nothing better for politicians to do. Really?


  • #6745
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #6746
    beakerjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,020 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Im at the stage of wishing death at Garth Brooks just to settle this debate once and for all.


  • #6747
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    So, the breaking news is:

    Government may fastrack planning applications.

    Brooks is holding fire until Thursday.

    Resident call off protest.

    Oh the excitement. I see an episode of Dallas in all this. :)


  • #6748
    Tarzana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Tarzana


    OldGoat wrote: »
    There are two ways of viewing our reputation:

    1) City Council put money before rights of citizens.
    2) City Council stand by the rights of citizens over money.

    I know which one of the above that I have more respect for.

    My thoughts exactly, not that I think either scenario would even cause a ripple internationally.


  • #6749
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    I think it does answer the question. We can't just take 160,000 cancelled tickets and move them around, these people are already entitled to refunds.

    I think Garth thinks he will lose these bookings if he does not do his five in a row, whether he chooses to abandon the whole thing or not, Aiken says we will know today, other sources, like radio and TV says the final decision won't be for tomorrow, whilst Twitter is adamant that the two concert cannot go ahead.

    I'm not taking about the fans. Of course they're entitled to a refund and obviously some won't be able to make the rearranged dates if they happen.

    I was on about his claim that he needs to play the 5 gigs to make the whole thing work as an event.


  • #6750
    eeepaulo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭eeepaulo


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    Seriously, is there nothing better for politicians to do. Really?

    I thought getting a child picket line going was a brilliant idea.

    Everyone under 5' in that line would rather see shaun the sheep than garth brooks.


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  • #6751
    secman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,664 ✭✭✭secman


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/government-urged-to-save-garth-brooks-gigs-with-planning-laws-1.1858060

    Been posted already?
    We obviously have no hospital waiting lists, no unemployment, our education system is perfect, we are very happy to pay our taxes, water rates, property tax but fck me when it comes to a a tear in my beer cowboy , all our problems are priorised and knocked down the list, our politicians are a joke. Get a grip on reality FFS


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