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Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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  • #5642
    Tarzana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Tarzana


    vitani wrote: »
    I doubt the residents care that much about the five gigs, but more about the fact that it breaks an existing agreement and would then set a precedent that would be tough to break. They had to put their (collective) foot down now, or else next year, it would be 8 concerts, plus a couple more because, sure, it's only 12 nights out of 365 and so on.

    Nail on the head.


  • #5643
    secman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,664 ✭✭✭secman


    Garthy ... don't fck with oweny............only one winner...


  • #5644
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    ardle1 wrote: »
    Eh I don't have to follow a Thread on boards to know what's going on...... The whole fcukin World is watching this embarrassing monumental fcuk-up unfold on Media outlets EVERYWHERE...... Those two licences should not have been denied 'PERIOD'

    The whole ****ing world is watching soccer.

    Get a grip.


  • #5645
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    end of the road wrote: »
    nothing to do with planning permission as they did what was required, they applied for the events licence

    ...and they didn't get it granted for the 5 gigs.

    It's not as simple a submitting a bit of paper with 'licence application' written on it 10 weeks before the gig and then go and relax. I can't believe it needs to be spelt out but the content of the application is pretty important too and needs to satisfy the awarding body and in this case it obviously didn't meet the criteria that DCC were looking for.


  • #5646
    MonsterCookie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭MonsterCookie


    jack presley wrote: »
    ...and they didn't get it granted for the 5 gigs.

    It's not as simple a submitting a but of paper with 'licence application' written on it 10 weeks before the gig and the go and relax. I can't believe it needs to be spelt out but the content of the application is pretty important too and needs to satisfy the awarding body and in this case it obviously didn't meet the criteria that DCC were looking for.

    As noted by DCC in their statement, there is nothing to stop the license application being submitted earlier. The promoters took a risk.

    To those feeling ashamed or embarrassed because how this looks on the world stage...blame the promoters and the process.


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  • #5647
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    MonsterCookie wrote: »
    As noted by DCC in their statement, there is nothing to stop the license application being submitted earlier. The promoters took a risk.

    To those feeling ashamed or embarrassed because how this looks on the world stage...blame the promoters and the process.

    It's quite a damning statement for Aiken and the GAA. The fact that they had concerns about the 5 concerts and relayed these concerns to Aiken/GAA on a few occasions and they seem to have been ignored shows how arrogant/complacent they were.

    I get the impression as well that they weren't happy with Aiken/GAA's responses to the public submissions either.


  • #5648
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    end of the road wrote: »
    it was to shut them up, thats all, otherwise they would look for more money rather then take what the GAA offered them and shut up instead of ruining this for the majority

    The,residents were looking for money you say? Well, this puts things in a new light - why didn't you bring his up earlier?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #5649
    ardle1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭ardle1


    Jamsiek wrote: »
    The whole world is NOT watching this.
    I'm not in Ireland and I can assure you nobody is talking about it.
    I only read about it when I read Irish websites.
    Why do you think media EVERYWHERE would give a damn about a couple of concerts in a small country?

    Oh so your monitoring all the entertainment media now are ya? Patience my friend patience! It's all about to IMPLODE.....


  • #5650
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,533 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    bobster453 wrote: »
    What I cant fathom in all this is how the promoters and Croke Park sold tickets for 5 concerts and yet had only applied for 3, seems they knew what they were doing alright, bit like building your house first and applying for planning permission later.I wonder if all the posters objecting to the residents objecting would be prepared to have these concerts in their locality if it meant that for at least a week if not more you were effectively a prisoner in your own home.
    What is the greater good??..thousands of people put out by not being able to enjoy themselves for a night, or people being effectively told what they can and cant do in their own neighbourhood by big business for that is what croke park is.
    This issue has been going on for years and it is no good saying people knew what they were letting themselves in for when they bought houses there, we dont know each individual circumstance and the reason they live there, nor does it matter. what matters is that there was already an agreement in place for a certain number of concerts per year and Croke Park Inc and the promoters were testing the water to see how far they could trample on that agreement before someone said stop..well now they know, and I for one applaud the decision of DCC, it is good to know that in this little much maligned banana republic of ours that sometimes someone is prepared to stand up and say enough is enough.
    As for the concerts themselves being cancelled, thats a load of bull, there are contractual agreements in place that would be very hard to get out of, this is only sabre rattling by Brooks and Co.
    they could have as many gigs as they wanted once they applied for an events licence once they went over 3, the residents had an opportunity to object to the re-development of croke park, nobody was standing up and saying stop, this was about giving the GAA some gigs and silencing the few objecters, the GAA croke park and promotors did everything right, they got the majority of the gigs and the few objectors failed

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #5651
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    ardle1 wrote: »
    Oh so your monitoring all the entertainment media now are ya? Patience my friend patience! It's all about to IMPLODE.....

    Greetings from Berlin. No be here knew anything about it. Chill.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • #5652
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,467 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Since you keep talking about money, can you show one - just ONE - example of proof that residents were looking for a pay out?

    Oh, and while you're at it, can you address my earlier point about condemning the residents for (allegedly) looking for a pay out, yet calling for a pay out to the illegal turf cutters in Galway?

    Please and thanks.
    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Proof? Link? Source?

    Can you get tablets for keyboard diarrhea?
    fta93 wrote: »
    Once again, I'd like you to prove that the residents are looking for a pay out. Simple request. I've asked you twice now.
    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    This is the one I meant to quote.

    Please see post no. 5641 above.

    In your own time.
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    The,residents were looking for money you say? Well, this puts things in a new light - why didn't you bring his up earlier?


    These are just the requests from the last hour.

    Any chance you'd grace us with an answer?


  • #5653
    Jamsiek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    ardle1 wrote: »
    Oh so your monitoring all the entertainment media now are ya? Patience my friend patience! It's all about to IMPLODE.....

    I don't need to monitor all the media. You said media everywhere were covering it and it was world news. I'm just saying it's not the case.


  • #5654
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,533 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    secman wrote: »
    Garthy ... don't fck with oweny............only one winner...
    yes, Garthy if he really wanted to

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #5655
    Peppa Pig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    end of the road wrote: »
    they could have as many gigs as they wanted once they applied for an events licence once they went over 3,
    Never knew that

    I thought they had to get the licences, not just apply for them. 5 concerts back on so.


  • #5656
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,467 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    end of the road wrote: »
    they could have as many gigs as they wanted once they applied for an events licence once they went over 3, the residents had an opportunity to object to the re-development of croke park, nobody was standing up and saying stop, this was about giving the GAA some gigs and silencing the few objecters, the GAA croke park and promotors did everything right, they got the majority of the gigs and the few objectors failed

    They could apply for 2 licenses per day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks of the year if they liked.

    Nothing to say they'll get them though.

    They put the cart before the horse here, and it backfired on them.


  • #5657
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Peppa Pig wrote: »
    Never knew that

    I thought they had to get the licences, not just apply for them. 5 concerts back on so.

    That's the thing EOTR can't seem to grasp. It's not just applying for the licence. It's making sure it's a robust application that you're submitting.


  • #5658
    smellmepower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭smellmepower


    end of the road wrote: »
    they could have as many gigs as they wanted once they applied for an events licence once they went over 3, the residents had an opportunity to object to the re-development of croke park, nobody was standing up and saying stop, this was about giving the GAA some gigs and silencing the few objecters, the GAA croke park and promotors did everything right, they got the majority of the gigs and the few objectors failed

    That is plainly not true,and complete bollocks to boot.

    You are either deliberately trolling or in complete denial.


  • #5659
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    These are just the requests from the last hour.

    Any chance you'd grace us with an answer?

    Last hour?! Good luck with that - I've been trying for weeks now!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #5660
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,533 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    jack presley wrote: »
    That's the thing EOTR can't seem to grasp. It's not just applying for the licence. It's making sure it's a robust application that you're submitting.
    wrong, i just don't have to spell it out that the application needs to be a good one and needs to be submitted, they can still send in as many applications for an events licence as they want though, they may get and they may not

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #5661
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,467 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    smellmepower wrote: »
    That is plainly not true,and complete bollocks to boot.

    You are either deliberately trolling or in complete denial.

    I'd vote for option 1 myself.


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  • #5662
    Reformed Character
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    end of the road wrote: »
    they could have as many gigs as they wanted once they applied for an events licence once they went over 3, the residents had an opportunity to object to the re-development of croke park, nobody was standing up and saying stop, this was about giving the GAA some gigs and silencing the few objecters, the GAA croke park and promotors did everything right, they got the majority of the gigs and the few objectors failed

    Seven words,
    That post stinks of absolute utter ****e!


  • #5663
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    All this reminds me of how DCC didn't want a theme park out near Lusk. It might be good for the economy and create jobs we can't have that now.
    I am really happy to see the normal residents standing up and saying this minority aren't representing them.
    I am not going to be drawn into the petty arguments here but looking at the bigger picture it is really hard to put a figure on how much this is really going to cost us.


  • #5664
    Peppa Pig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    smellmepower wrote: »
    You are either deliberately trolling or in complete denial.
    Complete denial, I'll go for.
    I'd love if the residents associations had joined together and called themselves the residents union.

    Certain poster(s) here would have imploded.


  • #5665
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,467 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Peppa Pig wrote: »
    Complete denial, I'll go for.
    I'd love if the residents associations had joined together and called themselves the residents union.

    Certain poster(s) here would have imploded.

    I think "head exploded" is the phrase.

    :D:D:D


  • #5666
    Jamsiek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    Peppa Pig wrote: »
    Complete denial, I'll go for.
    I'd love if the residents associations had joined together and called themselves the residents union.

    Certain poster(s) here would have imploded.

    Bravo, if I could multi-thank that I would


  • #5667
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    ardle1 wrote: »
    Oh so your monitoring all the entertainment media now are ya? Patience my friend patience! It's all about to IMPLODE.....
    So by implode you mean?


  • #5668
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    KoolKid wrote: »
    All this reminds me of how DCC didn't want a theme park out near Lusk. It might be good for the economy and create jobs we can't have that now.
    I am really happy to see the normal residents standing up and saying this minority aren't representing them.
    I am not going to be drawn into the petty arguments here but looking at the bigger picture it is really hard to put a figure on how much this is really going to cost us.

    It's unlikely to cost much seeing as buying tickets to Garth Brooks gigs is an invisible import. Income from tourists may surpass that, but it's by no means a huge amount of money.


  • #5669
    smellmepower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭smellmepower


    KoolKid wrote: »
    All this reminds me of how DCC didn't want a theme park out near Lusk. It might be good for the economy and create jobs we can't have that now.
    I am really happy to see the normal residents standing up and saying this minority aren't representing them.
    I am not going to be drawn into the petty arguments here but looking at the bigger picture it is really hard to put a figure on how much this is really going to cost us.

    Yeah DCC are totally against creating jobs and improving the economy.Or maybe,just maybe, the Lusk theme park plan was complete rubbish on closer inspection,just like the shambles of a plan for 5 consecutive concerts in Croke Park was.


  • #5670
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Ahh sure maybe it's all rubbish. The thing is how do you measure it?
    Maybe we are all exaggerating it and no body was going to come and spend money in our country. Likewise maybe all these other countries that build theme parks and do other things to get tourists in to spend money have it wrong as well.
    Maybe we all have it wrong and the few hundred people in Druncondra have it right.


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  • #5671
    ABajaninCork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    Obviously the brandy and cigars on offer weren't of sufficient quality...


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