Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

Overheal · 04-07-2014 06:47PM

http://thedailyedge.thejournal.ie/garth-brooks-international-headlines-ireland-1552977-Jul2014/

My favorite part of the whole debacle is some of you who are crying "What will the world think of us!"

Well, the world thinks Ireland is pretty dumb, actually, for selling tickets to a concert that wasn't licensed.

Brooks himself is acting like a dick, imo.

And from what I've read this whole situation was avoidable from the GAA, but they too acted like right pricks about the whole thing.

gandalf · 04-07-2014 06:48PM

The problem is that the legislation needs to be changed for big events. Promoters should be compelled to apply at least six months in advance and no tickets be allowed to be sold unless permission has been granted.

Smidge · 04-07-2014 06:50PM

gandalf wrote: »

The problem is that the legislation needs to be changed for big events. Promoters should be compelled to apply at least six months in advance and no tickets be allowed to be sold unless permission has been granted.

But....but.....that would make sense :eek:

Overheal · 04-07-2014 06:51PM

gandalf wrote: »

The problem is that the legislation needs to be changed for big events. Promoters should be compelled to apply at least six months in advance and no tickets be allowed to be sold unless permission has been granted.

That's part of it certainly.

Even the petition now out from some residents to let the 4th and 5th day go ahead aren't petitioning to do so without conditions:

http://www.thejournal.ie/croke-park-re-instaled-1552911-Jul2014/

The full implementation of the Mulvey Report is agreed to and adhered to indefinitely.
Croke Park creates a legacy grant from the proceeds of the five concerts that go towards community regeneration and community education bursaries.
Croke Park apologises to residents for the lack of respect they have shown us.

What's the Mulvey Report?

Muahahaha · 04-07-2014 06:52PM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

I won't even justify you last paragraph with a proper response as its pure and utter brain dead stuff altogether. I have much much better things for doing than conversing with the likes of you.

Likes of me ? Sure you're the one telling us that you've got a PhD yet you didn't even know what the word havoc means. Or you did but then denied using it in the context you did where you described how you want to wreak havoc on the residents around Croke Park.

You advocate violence, you advocate anti social behaviour on residents, it doesn't matter to you if many of them are elderly so long as you get your fun nothing else matters. Which is why it didn't surprise me to learn that you are a drunk driver too because drink driving is exactly the type of behaviour exhibited by selfish people who do not give a sh1t about how their actions could take someone's nearest and dearest away from them. You are selfish in your attitude to the Croke Park residents and you are selfish by drink driving, see a pattern emerging here ?

So you see we've built up quite a picture of you. You're a drink driving hoon who would like to be kicking wing mirrors in around Croke Park. Oh, and you've got a PhD on top of that too, or so you say :rolleyes:

hynesie08 · 04-07-2014 06:55PM

Overheal wrote: »

That's part of it certainly.

Even the petition now out from some residents to let the 4th and 5th day go ahead aren't petitioning to do so without conditions:

http://www.thejournal.ie/croke-park-re-instaled-1552911-Jul2014/
The full implementation of the Mulvey Report is agreed to and adhered to indefinitely.

Croke Park creates a legacy grant from the proceeds of the five concerts that go towards community regeneration and community education bursaries.

Croke Park apologises to residents for the lack of respect they have shown us.

What's the Mulvey Report?

It's an independent mediators report, gist was half a mil legacy fund, no more than 3 consecutive concerts and a few other things.

He also agreed that croke park were asking a lot from the residents and that they never asked for compensation.

slimjimmc · 04-07-2014 06:59PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

It's an independent mediators report, gist was half a mil legacy fund, no more than 3 consecutive concerts and a few other things.

He also agreed that croke park were asking a lot from the residents and that they never asked for compensation.

There's a link to it at http://www.crokepark.ie/Stadium-information/Community

Overheal · 04-07-2014 07:00PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Likes of me ? Sure you're the one telling us that you've got a PhD yet you didn't even know what the word havoc means. Or you did but then denied using it in the context you did where you described how you want to wreak havoc on the residents around Croke Park.

You advocate violence, you advocate anti social behaviour on residents, it doesn't matter to you if many of them are elderly so long as you get your fun nothing else matters. Which is why it didn't surprise me to learn that you are a drunk driver too because drink driving is exactly the type of behaviour exhibited by selfish people who do not give a sh1t about how their actions could take someone's nearest and dearest away from them. You are selfish in your attitude to the Croke Park residents and you are selfish by drink driving, see a pattern emerging here ?

So you see we've built up quite a picture of you. You're a drink driving hoon who would like to be kicking wing mirrors in around Croke Park. Oh, and you've got a PhD on top of that too, or so you say :rolleyes:

So you see we've built up quite a picture of you.

And you? I love how people choose to talk to each other on here. Warms my fcuking heart it does.

darkpagandeath · 04-07-2014 07:01PM

This legislation should have always been part of this planning law tbh, Looks dodgy pushing it though at the 12th hour. But seriously these laws need to updated changed. I mean who thought up the bright idea of having no appeals process in the first place. And submissions should be well in advance.

Jamsiek · 04-07-2014 07:02PM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

I never made a violent threat so I don't need to back track.

Regardless of what happens with the concerts I'll be enjoying a great week at the Galway races where the entire city centre is shut down for a week every year so the streets can be taken over and thousands and thousands line the streets until The early hours every night, traffic is chronic all week also. Yet people get on with it and don't go crying to the council looking for it to be stopped it's a great event, and bring millions imo the city.

The Croke park residents could learn a think or two from the west!!

I know many people in Galway that hate the races with a passion and usually go away for the week

Overheal · 04-07-2014 07:02PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

It's an independent mediators report, gist was half a mil legacy fund, no more than 3 consecutive concerts and a few other things.

He also agreed that croke park were asking a lot from the residents and that they never asked for compensation.

So basically "we'll let this whole cluster**** blow over if you publicly apologize, give us more funds for our community and then go back to the standing agreement and have no more of these shenannigans in the future?" seems perfectly fair if you ask me.

hynesie08 · 04-07-2014 07:04PM

Overheal wrote: »

So basically "we'll let this whole cluster**** blow over if you publicly apologize, give us more funds for our community and then go back to the standing agreement and have no more of these shenannigans in the future?" seems perfectly fair if you ask me.

No the residents rejected the legacy fund.

Jamsiek · 04-07-2014 07:11PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Look it's all just sheer GREED. The GAA were greedy trying to get 5 gigs in a row. The residents were every bit as greedy. Proven by their endless complaints, yet still calls for compensation and the head of the associationcalling the 500k fund "laughable". Yet when Dublin CC take complaints on board and chops two gigs its "Oh we had nothing to do with that decision. It was a last minute choice by DCC". Because now they'll get nothing. Typical greedy irish attitude to business thats making us look bad outside. Garth Brooks is dead right to threaten pulling out.

It's not really making Ireland look bad though

ardle1 · 04-07-2014 07:13PM

I'm still finding it hard to believe that these two licenses were denied, like who or what kind off person, committee, Council, Councillor whatever, after seeing all that's gone into it, and knowing how many people had bought tickets from far and wide...... I mean how in Gods name could they not let them go ahead? Was it a fcukin machine or robot who made the final 'Judgement'?

end of the road · 04-07-2014 07:17PM

Tarzana wrote: »

The area tolerates all the games that happen every summer and at others times.

how lovely of them, they live beside a stadium that was there long before any of them were born.

Tarzana wrote: »

For that alone, the GAA should contribute to the local community.

no, they shouldn't unless they want to, if a few money grabbers want to stop croke park from holding a few gigs which would bring thousands of people to dublin and a lot of money into the city then those money grabbers need to be made to realise that such actions have consiquences, basically because of their muppetry those who didn't object will sadly end up suffering for something they didn't do, shame on the small few

B0jangles · 04-07-2014 07:19PM

end of the road wrote: »

if a few money grabbers want to stop [ Aer Lingus ] from [ flying a few planes ] which would bring thousands of people to dublin and a lot of money into the city then those money grabbers need to be made to realise that such actions have consiquences, basically because of their muppetry those who didn't [ go on strike ] will sadly end up suffering for something they didn't do, shame on the small few

Tee. Hee.

Jamsiek · 04-07-2014 07:19PM

ardle1 wrote: »

Eh I don't have to follow a Thread on boards to know what's going on...... The whole fcukin World is watching this embarrassing monumental fcuk-up unfold on Media outlets EVERYWHERE...... Those two licences should not have been denied 'PERIOD'

The whole world is NOT watching this.
I'm not in Ireland and I can assure you nobody is talking about it.
I only read about it when I read Irish websites.
Why do you think media EVERYWHERE would give a damn about a couple of concerts in a small country?

Reformed Character · 04-07-2014 07:21PM

ardle1 wrote: »

I'm still finding it hard to believe that these two licenses were denied, like who or what kind off person, committee, Council, Councillor whatever, after seeing all that's gone into it, and knowing how many people had bought tickets from far and wide...... I mean how in Gods name could they not let them go ahead? Was it a fcukin machine or robot who made the final 'Judgement'?

Its easy to believe, arrogant and greedy GAA and Aiken sell tickets for concerts that based on planning permission and residents agreements have no chance of being held, they sell the tickets before they even apply for a licence, and hope that public opinion will help them drive a coach and horses through the law and over the residents.
Guess what, when they bet that their arrogance and greed would trump the residents rights and the legal obligations of the DCC , they backed the wrong fúcking horse!:D
Happy days!

Tipsy McSwagger · 04-07-2014 07:23PM

Have to admit I'm finding this hilarious.

Reformed Character · 04-07-2014 07:24PM

end of the road wrote: »

how lovely of them, they live beside a stadium that was there long before any of them were born.

no, they shouldn't unless they want to, if a few money grabbers want to stop croke park from holding a few gigs which would bring thousands of people to dublin and a lot of money into the city then those money grabbers need to be made to realise that such actions have consiquences, basically because of their muppetry those who didn't object will sadly end up suffering for something they didn't do, shame on the small few

And the award for todays bitter diatribe which disregards the law, planning permission, and the rights of people to live in peace without being exploited by a greedy organization and ,some blow in, foreign, concert profiteer goes to.....
:rolleyes:

end of the road · 04-07-2014 07:25PM

gandalf wrote: »

The problem is that the legislation needs to be changed for big events. Promoters should be compelled to apply at least six months in advance and no tickets be allowed to be sold unless permission has been granted.

10 weeks is enough

fta93 · 04-07-2014 07:29PM

end of the road wrote: »

how lovely of them, they live beside a stadium that was there long before any of them were born.

no, they shouldn't unless they want to, if a few money grabbers want to stop croke park from holding a few gigs which would bring thousands of people to dublin and a lot of money into the city then those money grabbers need to be made to realise that such actions have consiquences, basically because of their muppetry those who didn't object will sadly end up suffering for something they didn't do, shame on the small few

Prove it that they're money-grabbers. Pretty serious allegation. And remember, the Mulvey Report quite clearly stated that the residents didn't ask for compensation.

end of the road · 04-07-2014 07:32PM

"The full implementation of the Mulvey Report is agreed to and adhered to indefinitely."

all ready done

"Croke Park creates a legacy grant from the proceeds of the five concerts that go towards community regeneration and community education bursaries."

croke park all ready contributes and does enough for the community.

"Croke Park apologises to residents for the lack of respect they have shown us."

why would they and what would they apologise for, croke park has shown the residents respect and has done nothing wrong, only the few extremists trying to ruin it for everyone claim to not have been respected.

Reformed Character · 04-07-2014 07:35PM

end of the road wrote: »

why would they and what would they apologise for, croke park has shown the residents respect and has done nothing wrong, only the few extremists trying to ruin it for everyone claim to not have been respected.

Two words "me hole".
I hope the GAA are paying you well, because even your posts do not match up to their most recent comments.

nxbyveromdwjpg · 04-07-2014 07:35PM

Reformed Character wrote: »

Says yer man who wont be hostage in his own home and have his life disrupted for a week so the GAA, Jim Aiken, and Garth the fart can laugh all the way to the bank with their millions!:rolleyes:

Hostage? Get a f*cking grip, it's a country music concert not a nuclear war. 8 nights out of 365, you live beside the national stadium, get over it.

And AGAIN - I thought this wasn't about money?

nxbyveromdwjpg · 04-07-2014 07:36PM

Reformed Character wrote: »

Two words "me hole".
I hope the GAA are paying you well, because even your posts do not match up to their most recent comments.

Tinfoil hat time

Jamsiek · 04-07-2014 07:38PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

well he hasn't toured (outside of a residency in las vegas) since 1998.

and if brooks was selling out stadiums across europe would that make you respect him more :cool:

world tour is being announced on monday

Fact is he would sell out gigs anywhere outside Ireland or the hillbilly states in the US. Most people outside these areas know little or nothing about him

end of the road · 04-07-2014 07:38PM

Reformed Character wrote: »

And the award for todays bitter diatribe which disregards the law, planning permission, and the rights of people to live in peace without being exploited by a greedy organization and ,some blow in, foreign, concert profiteer goes to.....

nothing to do with planning permission as they did what was required, they applied for the events licence

Reformed Character · 04-07-2014 07:39PM

nm wrote: »

And AGAIN - I thought this wasn't about money?

It is !
For the GAA , GB, and Aiken.
For the residents it is about their peace, the law, agreements freely entered into, and the right not to be held hostage in their homes for a week so the GAA,GB, and a foreign concert profiteer can ride roughshod over planning permission, the law, and their rights, on the way to the bank!

Reformed Character · 04-07-2014 07:41PM

end of the road wrote: »

nothing to do with planning permission as they did what was required, they applied for the events licence

No, they broke the law by selling tickets for concerts for which they had not applied for a licence, the tickets could not be sold subject to licence when no licence had been applied for.

Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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