Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

JRant · 03-07-2014 01:24PM

end of the road wrote: »

and a loss for more little guys who spent money on hotels and the rest, but still the residents won nothing, they failed to stop the lot

I'm sure the Aer Lingus boys and girls could be roped into a little industrial dispute for the weekend of the 25th July. Sure it's been weeks since they've had their last one. That would really be the icing on the cake.

lambayire · 03-07-2014 01:25PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

The ticket options are released as "premium tickets"

But yeah it's common practice for outdoor gigs to magically grow in capacity beforehand.

Well he has the option to sit in his normal Croker seats.

smileyj1987 · 03-07-2014 01:25PM

end of the road wrote: »

and a loss for more little guys who spent money on hotels and the rest, but still the residents won nothing, they failed to stop the lot

Oh how your argument has changed . We won because we got 3 gigs . You stated in here no gigs would be cancelled .

sparkynash · 03-07-2014 01:26PM

Thank god there not going ahead.the law is the law.

paulbok · 03-07-2014 01:26PM

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

People have limited resources, money that is spent on tickets and the day in Dublin is money that is not being spent in their communities. It's great for Dublin, just not for the rest of the country.

So when you take Garth's millions leaving the economy and then the cost to the taxpayer for events like this I don't believe these concerts benefit our economy.

What costs to the taxpayer?
It's the GAA organising them not the IDA

hynesie08 · 03-07-2014 01:27PM

lambayire wrote: »

Well he has the option to sit in his normal Croker seats.

If he turns that down, they go on sale at a premium to others. €80 i believe.

Akrasia · 03-07-2014 01:28PM

end of the road wrote: »

and a loss for more little guys who spent money on hotels and the rest, but still the residents won nothing, they failed to stop the lot

Most hotels don't charge you if you cancel with sufficient notice.
Most people will get a refund from ticketmaster.

They'll be disappointed, but that's life.

John.Icy · 03-07-2014 01:28PM

No sympathy for residents who chose to live by Croke Park, knowing full well it'd be a hive of activity with GAA and so on. In fact, surely GAA crowds would be far more rowdy than the grannies of the country going to GARETH BROOKS. Jesus wept. And concerts are over by 11, like what?. Granted worry over mess and garden damage but, like, a bit of extra patrolling and a clean up by DCC or another board and you're sorted.

Hopefully the concerts can be put on at the Aviva or something, 160,000 people put out by this is it?? (2 x 80,000 sellouts).

GLaDOS · 03-07-2014 01:29PM

"The Real Winner Here is Music" says DCC

smileyj1987 · 03-07-2014 01:31PM

ScienceNerd wrote: »

"The Real Winner Here is Music" says DCC

I'm sorry but the residents are the winners here . They got two of the gigs cancelled . They took on a huge organisation like the gaa and won .

lee_baby_simms · 03-07-2014 01:31PM

John.Icy wrote: »

No sympathy for residents who chose to live by Croke Park, knowing full well it'd be a hive of activity with GAA and so on. In fact, surely GAA crowds would be far more rowdy than the grannies of the country going to GARETH BROOKS. Jesus wept. And concerts are over by 11, like what?. Granted worry over mess and garden damage but, like, a bit of extra patrolling and a clean up by DCC or another board and you're sorted.

That's all very easy to say when you don't actually live there.

spurious · 03-07-2014 01:33PM

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

That's all very easy to say when you don't actually live there.

It's also the case that it's affecting not just those 'close to' Croke Park, but people up to a mile outside the cordon.

miss no stars · 03-07-2014 01:33PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Do you have a link for that ? RTE are reporting that the residents wanted no concerts for the next two years but there wasn't a ruling on it from DCC, they can only make decisions on what's before them here and now.

If the GAA were to agree to no concerts for two years then I'd reckon the residents would let all five go ahead. I haven't seen any report of the GAA offering this to the residents yet it is a way that 160,000 people wouldn't be left disappointed and the residents would likely accept 5 nights in a row for 2 years of peace from concerts. It's a win win for the residents and the concert goers but the GAA has proved themselves to be greedy in all this so I can't seem them giving up rights to more concerts to resolve this current problem.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/500k-fund-for-local-projects-in-croke-park-brooks-deal-30388633.html

My bad, the 3 year period in question was 2015-2017.

(On a side note, I wondered when I read that, "why so far into the future?"... Then I realised 2015 is next year. Eep).

realdanbreen · 03-07-2014 01:33PM

Barely There wrote: »

Could the HSE run a series of musical re-education seminars at a number of smaller venues on the Mon/Tue for the Garth Brooks concert goers?

Surely now is the time to reach out to those less-fortunate members of our society who suffer from such awful taste in music?

Much and all as I hate garths music its better than that 'upyourownhole' shyte that U2 blare out.

lambayire · 03-07-2014 01:34PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

If he turns that down, they go on sale at a premium to others. €80 i believe.

Even though it's a regular Joe soap seat in one of the Cusack/Hogan stands?

JRant · 03-07-2014 01:35PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Do you have a link for that ? RTE are reporting that the residents wanted no concerts for the next two years but there wasn't a ruling on it from DCC, they can only make decisions on what's before them here and now.

If the GAA were to agree to no concerts for two years then I'd reckon the residents would let all five go ahead. I haven't seen any report of the GAA offering this to the residents yet it is a way that 160,000 people wouldn't be left disappointed and the residents would likely accept 5 nights in a row for 2 years of peace from concerts. It's a win win for the residents and the concert goers but the GAA has proved themselves to be greedy in all this so I can't seem them giving up rights to more concerts to resolve this current problem.

The mediation report recommended 9 concerts over a 3 year period with no more than 3 concerts on consecutive nights. That of course could be extended with a 'special' license, so in essence nothing would change.

If CP had of stuck to the 3 GB concerts (Fri, Sat, Sun) all this nonsense would have been easily avoided. The added disruption of Monday and Tuesday were just a bit too much for the RA IMO.

TimeToShine · 03-07-2014 01:35PM

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

Having been part of this thread since day 1, your recent comments are ludicrous. I'm a resident, and I'm not celebrating, I personally dont mind the concerts going ahead or not. But I appreciate the stand that other residents around me have made and this is a minor victory for those people.

You, on the other hand, have spent 3 months belittlling, trolling and blaming residents for everything under the sun, so that you, little old you, can get what you want. Its some of the meanest, most undignified trash that I have ever seen written on boards.

So today, I smile not for the people who fought to live around me, but at you, knowing that you really are one of the most repugnant people I have ever come across online.

Your attitude is pretty selfish to be honest.

To the letter of the law the residents have the right of it, but if you think that this isn't extremely unfair on the vast majority then you're deluded. 160000 people are losing out on a lot of money as well as something to look forward to so a select few get 2 nights of improved sleep.

Someone posted earlier about this being one of the few things she's been looking forward to in what is otherwise a tough period in her life. I feel for her and for many others who are in a similar position. The moral outrage here should be directed at the promoters, but the residents are certainly only looking out for themselves - at the expense of a far greater number of people.

But of course, if one person is being a dick on the internet that justifies it all.

hynesie08 · 03-07-2014 01:35PM

lambayire wrote: »

Even though it's a regular Joe soap seat in one of the Cusack/Hogan stands?

I believe so, but i'm open to correction.

Slozer · 03-07-2014 01:35PM

'Garth Brooks music is technically torture on a scale not witnessed since World War II.'

Brilliant!

miss no stars · 03-07-2014 01:35PM

lambayire wrote: »

Even though it's a regular Joe soap seat in one of the Cusack/Hogan stands?

Haha, it's a regular joe soap seat that I wouldn't otherwise have. I bought insurance on this one, though. Lols.

italodisco · 03-07-2014 01:35PM

Pray for this

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/exclusive-fears-grow-that-all-five-garth-brooks-gigs-will-be-cancelled-30404148.html

Lol

RFOLEY1990 · 03-07-2014 01:36PM

part of me is delighted hotels will (hopefully) be burned.

should be legislation brought in that means hotel prices can only rise by a small % for events like this..

I'm all for supply and demand but they just take the Pi**

there's word of the last 2 gigs being moved to Aviva now I hear?

lee_baby_simms · 03-07-2014 01:36PM

spurious wrote: »

It's also the case that it's affecting not just those 'close to' Croke Park, but people up to a mile outside the cordon.

Exactly. I don't follow GAA sports but I always know when there's a match on.

Crazy traffic, streets littered with broken bottles and rubbish the following morning.

Pumpkinseeds · 03-07-2014 01:36PM

There are very few of us who would want 80,000 people flooding through our neighbourhoods on 1 night let alone 5 consecutive nights. The Gaa took the piss and lost. I don't live in Dublin but I'm glad that the residents won. There will be a full statement from the concert promoter later today, most probably announcing that the cancelled gigs will take place in other Dublin concert venues.

If not who really gives a damn about tens of thousands of red neck music fans not getting to watch a fat middle aged man on a stage:P

Fred Swanson · 03-07-2014 01:36PM

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end of the road · 03-07-2014 01:37PM

EricPraline wrote: »

Except for the unprecedented demand for the One Direction concerts earlier this year. And obviously the next U2 homecoming gigs will be a once-off too, and so on.

which is what the stadium is there for

EricPraline wrote: »

In 2009 the GAA agreed a deal with local residents to a maximum of three concerts per year.

they didn't, no evidence of this agreement exists, the only agreement that is valid is the planning agreement that states 3 concerts before applying for an events licence

EricPraline wrote: »

In 2014, they have already had three nights for One Direction and were pushing for another five nights for Brooks. Looking for 1-2 extra concerts when 3 were agreed is one thing, but 5 extra nights above the agreed number is just taking the piss.

3 weren't agreed, it was 3 and then apply for an events licence, croke park and the promotor did that, the amount of concerts is little compared to other venues all over the world

EricPraline wrote: »

What was the point in the GAA agreeing the original contract if they were going to renege on it?

because it doesn't exist.

EricPraline wrote: »

If the residents didn't complain, of course it sets a precedent for this to happen every year.

and it may still happen every year

EricPraline wrote: »

People are quick to blame the residents. May they should re-target their vitriol at Croke Park and the promoters who sold them tickets based on a planning license which they could never deliver on.

it could have gone either way, its a few residents who bought beside a stadium knowing how big it was, or who didn't object to the re-development in the first place trying to dictate how that stadium should conduct business, croke park by the sounds of it still got the majority of the concerts, so these few people failed to stop the lot.

EricPraline wrote: »

I can clearly understand people being very disappointed now, but it is the concert organisers who have created this disappointment by their presumption that they could ignore an agreement that was already in place.

but they didn't ignore an agreement, they applied for the events licence once they went over the 3.

end of the road · 03-07-2014 01:40PM

Rightwing wrote: »

They had an agreement in place and broke it.

but they don't

Degag · 03-07-2014 01:42PM

Really think this is a disgrace. Nothing really against the residents, but how the promoters were able to book 5 nights without a licence. There are a lot of disappointed people out there. Fine, they will get a refund on their ticket, but what if they booked flights, train tickets, unrefundable hotel rooms. Will they be compensated?

recyclops · 03-07-2014 01:42PM

italodisco wrote: »

Pray for this

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/exclusive-fears-grow-that-all-five-garth-brooks-gigs-will-be-cancelled-30404148.html

Lol

article published at 10:34 am

GAA have already made announcement for 3 gigs

move along nothing to see here

hynesie08 · 03-07-2014 01:42PM

end of the road wrote: »

but they don't

so you're saying RTE, TV3, The Independent, The journal and the solicitors involved are all lying about this agrrement?

Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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