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One in Five women are considering designer vagina surgery

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    In my experience most guys are too delighted to be having sex to be passing comment on what it looks like.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭nc19


    Speaking as a man of the world, no matter what it looked like, no man would say no thanks once it was offered.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭Morgase


    Whilst I've had manys the conversation about being dissatisfied with breast size or size generally, this subject has never come up, even when discussing things like waxing. So I doubt those 1 in 5 stats would apply to Ireland - or maybe I'm just projecting!

    Seems awfully sad to consider such drastic surgery because of what some potential men might think, especially as kylith says they would hardly care anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    One in five women where? First I've heard of it!
    Vaginas can never be made to look nice anyway, but how they look doesn't matter IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Jerrica


    Magaggie wrote: »
    Vaginas can never be made to look nice anyway, but how they look doesn't matter IMO.

    I think they're quite charming looking, there's something terribly mysterious about them with all those folds and layers and suggestions of what fun lies underneath :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Is no part of our bodies good enough anymore? Makes you wonder if women are being told they look deformed or if its a self inflicted perception. Where does it come from? Porn?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    It is impossible to know how serious the research is without a bit more info on sample and the questions asked and other context.

    I forgot most of the statistics theory but if I remember things correctly you would need very good sampling procedure to extract anything meaningful from such a small sample.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Magaggie wrote: »
    One in five women where? First I've heard of it!
    Vaginas can never be made to look nice anyway, but how they look doesn't matter IMO.

    Flinders University, Australia. The results showed "17% were interested in having labiaplasty" from a pool of 351 participants.

    The actual study doesn't appear to be online yet, but I'd be interested in seeing an explanation of their research methodology. I'm not sure being interested in having plastic surgery is as big a deal as intending or wanting to.
    meeeeh wrote: »
    It is impossible to know how serious the research is without a bit more info on sample and the questions asked and other context.

    I forgot most of the statistics theory but if I remember things correctly you would need very good sampling procedure to extract anything meaningful from such a small sample.

    Yeah, that too. A large proportion of these types of surveys are self-selected sampling whereby people apply to take part in the survey. The types of people that apply aren't generally representative of the entire population thus it would be incorrect to infer that the results are representative of the population.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭StudentDad


    God that's depressing. Nevermind overall looks, personality etc.

    Is it narcissism or just another extension of the botox/plastic surgery phenomenon?

    SD


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Btw this is the kind of statement you would put out to make people at least a little bit interested to attend otherwise fairly specialized conference.


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  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I can see how some young women feel pressure, if they've been fed things like the popular disgust of women with unwaxed pudendas and with the relatively new phenomenon of anal bleaching being offered at waxing salons.

    It normalises the overall rejection of a womans genitals in their natural state. The next step is surgery to conform to the ideal - and the ideal that nearly everyone is exposed to now is that of the uniformly bald, bleached, surgically modified vulva.

    Wouldn't be interested in surgery in a million years myself.


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Such is the normality of such procedures in certain cirlces that the Oscar 'goody bag' contained a voucher offering the recipient the latest in vaginal rejuvenation surgery.

    http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/mar/02/oscars-2014-10-things-to-look-out-for
    The bag contains luxury holiday vouchers, a home-spa system, a “vaginal rejuvenation” treatment called the O-shot (the perfect Mother’s Day gift) and a tube of “horse shampoo”.

    The perfect Mothers Day gift.

    And human society is now at the pinnacle of enlightenment and civilisation. How depressing.


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Lexi Fluffy Surface


    Hey ma, fix your vag


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Hey ma, fix your vag

    It'll take YEARS off ya :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    As a man, I have encountered quite a few women who appear ashamed of the way their vagina looks, or, how they perceive it looks. I think this is a shame. Where does it come from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭paulcummins


    A lot of women I've encountered have also hated their vagina "lips". As a guy you always try to make her feel better and reassured but there is no doubt that some vaginas are more aesthetic than others


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    A lot of women I've encountered have also hated their vagina "lips". As a guy you always try to make her feel better and reassured but there is no doubt that some vaginas are more aesthetic than others

    Right, but in my experience the vast, vast majority are just fine, in terms of aesthetics. Only a couple of times I saw odd looking ones, and it certainly did not turn me off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭paulcummins


    Saipanne wrote: »
    Right, but in my experience the vast, vast majority are just fine, in terms of aesthetics. Only a couple of times I saw odd looking ones, and it certainly did not turn me off.


    It's up to the female in question to determine if it looks fine or not. For some men its going to matter and for some men it won't matter that much. I don't like the "men will take whatever they can get" type of attitude.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    I don't like the "men will take whatever they can get" type of attitude.

    Neither do I.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    It's up to the female in question to determine if it looks fine or not. For some men its going to matter and for some men it won't matter that much. I don't like the "men will take whatever they can get" type of attitude.

    "The woman in question."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    What I don't like and what lazy articles like this one do is create the impression you have to think about this type of issues. Since 20% of women are apparently considering doing it suddenly we start to think and discuss how our vagina looks. Well screw that there is a whole lot more to me than one organ. And screw those men who find perfectly normal and healthy vagina off putting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭HomelessMidge


    I could only imagine the stats if it was with us men. If there was a ready available surgery to plump and lengthen the penis I'd say at least 75% of men would go for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    Perhaps the survey was conducted amongst customers of a plastic surgery clinic. In which case they would not be representative of the general population.
    Surely most people have never actually considered plastic surgery. Am I naive or something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    Perhaps the survey was conducted amongst customers of a plastic surgery clinic. In which case they would not be representative of the general population.
    Surely most people have never actually considered plastic surgery. Am I naive or something.

    Right? I can't imagine being so hung up on my appearance that I'd actually pay someone to take a knife to my fanny. Jesus, I cut myself shaving once and I still break out in a cold sweat remembering it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭Morgase


    Actually yeah, that's a really good point. Of areas in the body where you do not want to risk having particular nerves severed, that's got to rank pretty high...


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A lot of women I've encountered have also hated their vagina "lips". As a guy you always try to make her feel better and reassured but there is no doubt that some vaginas are more aesthetic than others

    I wonder what kind of reception I'd get on a mens forum if I opined about the relative aesthetics of different penises.

    Some vulvas (the vagina is an internal organ) may be prettier than others, but the gents don't always have a bag of cute puppies either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,490 ✭✭✭✭fits


    One in five women? They are in their ....

    I don't even have an idea of what a 'designer' vag is supposed to look like. But if this is porn having an influence on preferences again, f. That. Seriously.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,132 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    meeeeh wrote: »
    And screw those men who find perfectly normal and healthy vagina off putting.

    Or not, right. ;)

    Yeah, this is daftness. While i would certainly consider some surgical repair after damage during childbirth, changing just the look is vanity of the highest order. How long are people spending examining themselves to even be bothered?


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pwurple wrote: »
    . How long are people spending examining themselves to even be bothered?

    I doubt anyone is sitting on the side of the bath with a hand mirror, lamenting the discolouration or length of their labia. I think it's likely it's being commented on, or compared unfavourably with porn performers.

    There is literally no part of a womans body that isn't up for criticism now. Not even the most intimate parts of us are safe from public debate or scrutiny.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    I wonder what questions they asked in the survey?

    Have you ever been tempted to have genital surgery? Or, if you could, would you have genital surgery?


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