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Man your pumps, Wetherspoons are coming

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  • #662
    Heroditas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,710 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    A Primal Nut wrote: »
    Can't believe how many people think bars have souls.

    Most bars around the city are the same anyway.


    It's one of those bizarre concepts that they feel the need to cling to.
    In my experiece, "soul" seems to mean a couple of old farts who sit at the bar all day and get ratty if you take their seat, a pub with toilets that stink with no toilet roll or soap and you dry your hands on your trousers (if the tap even works), the pub smells of farts, is dingy and poorly lit bar the corners where Sky Sports is blaring away all day.
    Finally, the bar only serves Guinness, Bud, Heineken, Carlsberg and Smithwicks.
    None of that "foregin muck" please.


  • #663
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,748 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Aboutime wrote: »
    Wow really !! Thanks for the heads up!
    However some of us choose to have a particular drink,mines a Smirnoff ,husband has a preference for Guinness.
    For me it would be like going to a vegetarian restaurant ,where they don't serve meat.I like meat.
    Unless of course I have the Guinness and beef pie ,which they serve at TTTT?

    I'd love to see you do a blind taste test on several market leading vodkas.
    I'd be extremely surprised if you could pick out Smirnoff over any others.
    (Particularly if you drink it with a mixer)

    In a blind test, believe it or not, people struggle to spot Guinness too.

    A closer analogy would be that you have a preference for Angus beef but the restaurant only served Hereford, Limousin, Sharolais and Simmental beef.
    The fact that you probably couldn't identify the beef on the plate is irrelevant. It's what is written on the menu that counts!!
    __________________


  • #664
    Ravelleman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Nope.
    The Company is called Pizza Elle, has been since they started out renting the kitchen in Massimo in Galway selling, eh, Pizzas.

    After that they opened Mustard, a burger/pizza place on Middle Street that later moved to The Bridge Mills, the burgers were class, and then the pubs came.

    Thanks for that. The recurrence of the name here, on Yelp, the Beoir website and various food blogs seems to suggest a general perception that the organisation was once called the 'Cottage Group' though.


  • #665
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Ravelleman wrote: »
    Thanks for that. The recurrence of the name here, on Yelp, the Beoir website and various food blogs seems to suggest a general perception that the organisation was once called the 'Cottage Group' though.

    The recurrence seems to be among a small group of bloggers and beoir members though. I think it's just an invention of the beoir community and it's extensions. I'd never, in 5 years living in Galway, heard the company referred to as that outside of Baords/Beoir/Blogs.

    The yelp community in Ireland is very much intertwined with the "foodie" and drinks blog/twitter community in Ireland.


  • #666
    poitinstill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭poitinstill


    i presume the Cork bar will be a little cheaper than the Dublin one but with identical offerings ?


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  • #667
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    poitinstill wrote: »
    i presume the Cork bar will be a little cheaper than the Dublin one but with identical offerings ?

    I'd say so. Their prices vary by region in the UK anyway, London being more expensive than other areas.

    Many things, like Sixpoint/craft beers will be identical in price though.


  • #668
    upforit101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 263 ✭✭upforit101


    Seaneh wrote: »
    I'd say so. Their prices vary by region in the UK anyway, London being more expensive than other areas.

    Many things, like Sixpoint/craft beers will be identical in price though.

    Just wondering Seaneh, if the spoons in Bangor charges a cheaper price for take out of the six point cans?
    Thanks in advance.


  • #669
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    upforit101 wrote: »
    Just wondering Seaneh, if the spoons in Bangor charges a cheaper price for take out of the six point cans?
    Thanks in advance.

    Nah, no discount for take out.

    They are £1.99 each for the summer though so at that price they are about the same as you'd pay for a comparable beer in Tesco/Asda/Sainsbury's anyway.

    €3.50 for Bengali tiger is about the same as a comparable beer in an offie in Ireland as well. It's about the same standard as Ska's Modus Hoperandi which sells for €3.65+ in offies that stock it in Ireland.

    I've been told that not all 'spoons will do take out by the way, it's at the managers discretion so might not even be a goer in Ireland.


  • #670
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    By the way lads.
    The regular price for sixpoints and the other craft bottles in the UK is £2.99 each (or 2 sixpoints for a fiver), which is actually more expensive than they are charging in Ireland (£3 is about €3.76 atm).
    Which is strange but a welcome surprise!


  • #671
    upforit101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 263 ✭✭upforit101


    Seaneh wrote: »
    By the way lads.
    The regular price for sixpoints and the other craft bottles in the UK is £2.99 each (or 2 sixpoints for a fiver), which is actually more expensive than they are charging in Ireland (£3 is about €3.76 atm).
    Which is strange but a welcome surprise!

    I certainly hope the Six point cans take off in Ireland.
    The Bengali Tiger is one of the nicest beers I've ever tasted.


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  • #672
    JohnK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭JohnK


    poitinstill wrote: »
    i presume the Cork bar will be a little cheaper than the Dublin one but with identical offerings ?

    Corks getting more expensive for pints these days so I'd be surprised if Wetherspoons were any cheaper down here than they plan to be in Dublin. Theres a thread ( http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056958105 ) in the Cork forum about prices at the moment and €5.30 for a Heineken & €5.60 for a Budweiser are right in the city centre lately which would be the same location as Wetherspoons are going to be opening.


  • #673
    Ranchu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Ranchu


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Gouging?

    Are you forced to go there and spend more than you want to?

    Not any more.
    Seaneh wrote: »
    And I doubt any of the Irish craft beer bars are too worried by Spoons.

    They should be.

    Their recent price hikes are laughable and myself and many of my friends will never darken their doors again after many years of regular custom.


  • #674
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    Ranchu wrote: »
    Not any more.



    They should be.

    Their recent price hikes are laughable and myself and many of my friends will never darken their doors again after many years of regular custom.
    Your loss, spoons offer a totally different experience to the likes of ATG or The Headline, both of which will have beers which Spoons never will.


  • #675
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    drumswan wrote: »
    Your loss, spoons offer a totally different experience to the likes of ATG or The Headline, both of which will have beers which Spoons never will.

    Exactly, I like 'spoons for what it is and I'm happy to see them enter the market but you're never going to find 20+ craft beers on tap with up to 100 more in the fridges in bottles with a constantly changing line up. Which is what pubs like ATG etc offer, as well as a fantastic range of whiskies.


  • #676
    Ranchu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Ranchu


    drumswan wrote: »
    Your loss, spoons offer a totally different experience to the likes of ATG or The Headline, both of which will have beers which Spoons never will.

    It's no loss. Again, I was a loyal customer for a long time. I'd rather a slightly limited selection at half the price. I don't particularly rate the atmosphere in the gbb bars and definitely not in the Headline which is definitely not to my taste. All of these bars were places for us to get a decent pint before a late bar. Nothing will have changed apart from having twice as much money in my pocket when I go home.


  • #677
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    Spoons are a ready made replacement for the crap generic Irish pub, not the specialist craft beer bar.


  • #678
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    Ranchu wrote: »
    It's no loss. Again, I was a loyal customer for a long time. I'd rather a slightly limited selection at half the price. I don't particularly rate the atmosphere in the gbb bars and definitely not in the Headline which is definitely not to my taste. All of these bars were places for us to get a decent pint before a late bar. Nothing will have changed apart from having twice as much money in my pocket when I go home.
    It's not a 'slightly limited selection', ATG carries hundreds of beers and dozens of whiskeys.


  • #679
    upforit101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 263 ✭✭upforit101


    Ranchu wrote: »
    Their recent price hikes are laughable and myself and many of my friends will never darken their doors again after many years of regular custom.

    Damn right, I'll be doing the same and I hope many others will vote with their feet too.


  • #680
    Ranchu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Ranchu


    drumswan wrote: »
    Spoons are a ready made replacement for the crap generic Irish pub, not the specialist craft beer bar.

    I agree to an extent but a huge amount of people that go to the current craft beer bars go there for a decent selection of beers. That means having a few that you can't get in the generic bars is enough of a draw. Having 100 expensive bottles in the fridge might be attractive to the beer fanatics but it means nothing to 90% of the people who drink in them. This is the customer base they'll lose when people realise you can get the same product for 3.50 instead of €5 or €6 or whatever.


  • #681
    upforit101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 263 ✭✭upforit101


    Ranchu wrote: »
    It's no loss. Again, I was a loyal customer for a long time. I'd rather a slightly limited selection at half the price. I don't particularly rate the atmosphere in the gbb bars and definitely not in the Headline which is definitely not to my taste. All of these bars were places for us to get a decent pint before a late bar. Nothing will have changed apart from having twice as much money in my pocket when I go home.

    +1.


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  • #682
    upforit101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 263 ✭✭upforit101


    Ranchu wrote: »
    I agree to an extent but a huge amount of people that go to the current craft beer bars go there for a decent selection of beers. That means having a few that you can't get in the generic bars is enough of a draw. Having 100 expensive bottles in the fridge might be attractive to the beer fanatics but it means nothing to 90% of the people who drink in them. This is the customer base they'll lose when people realise you can get the same product for 3.50 instead of €5 or €6 or whatever.

    Exactly and it's the spoons carrying the six point stuff (at such a keen price) that is the clincher for me.


  • #683
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    Ranchu wrote: »
    I agree to an extent but a huge amount of people that go to the current craft beer bars go there for a decent selection of beers. That means having a few that you can't get in the generic bars is enough of a draw. Having 100 expensive bottles in the fridge might be attractive to the beer fanatics but it means nothing to 90% of the people who drink in them. This is the customer base they'll lose when people realise you can get the same product for 3.50 instead of €5 or €6 or whatever.

    It's not the same product, it's totally different. There is no draught import US IPA on the spoons menu for example. No draught German or Belgian beers, no Belgians at all in fact, , no imperial stouts, no lambics, no seasonals, no import whatsoever and 99% of all Irish craft beer is also missing.

    I'd you think 90% of people who drink in ATG or The Headline have no interest in the beer they are drinking you are way off the mark. They would have already deserted these pubs when the generics started stocking o'haras and Galway hooker


  • #684
    Ranchu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Ranchu


    drumswan wrote: »
    It's not the same product, it's totally different. There is no draught import US IPA on the spoons menu for example. No draught German or Belgian beers, no Belgians at all in fact, , no imperial stouts, no lambics, no seasonals, no import whatsoever and 99% of all Irish craft beer is also missing.

    I'd you think 90% of people who drink in ATG or The Headline have no interest in the beer they are drinking you are way off the mark. They would have already deserted these pubs when the generics started stocking o'haras and Galway hooker

    I never said it was the same product. I did say there is enough of a comparible product to tempt people away. I was in the headline a few months ago and they didn't have a single American style ipa in stock on the night apart from some ****e from McGargles. Galway Hooker and O'Haras IPAs aren't good beers. People are mentioning Sixpoint a lot here which is supposed to be great.

    We'll have to wait and see but I do think the gbb bars will suffer unless they get their pricing in order.


  • #685
    MonkstownHoop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭MonkstownHoop


    I'll still visit the dark horse, but it just won't be the only pub in Blackrock I'll visit now, it's good to have variety, between these 2 the purty and gilbert and wrights in Dun Laoghaire I can have a good choice without having to travel into town


  • #686
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Ranchu wrote: »
    Galway Hooker and O'Haras IPAs aren't good beers.

    In your opinion.

    I happen to think both are very good beers.


  • #687
    dub_skav
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭dub_skav


    To be honest ATG have always missed a trick with me and a large swathe of their potential custom.
    I really like their selection of beers and would gladly pop in more often, but they fail to cater to my other half. Their wine selection is minimal and seems like tokenism at its finest.
    Actually last week I asked about Prosecco and they have one type, which is a Frizante rather than spumante and is available only by the bottle for an inflated price of 32 quid.

    Our choice of pub is always a trade off between decent wine selection and decent beer selection, if JDW can offer us both a compromise then it will get more of our business.


  • #688
    BeerNut
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    dub_skav wrote: »
    To be honest ATG have always missed a trick with me and a large swathe of their potential custom.
    Any time I'm in there it's jammed. I don't think they're suffering from a dearth of swathes.

    Out of curiosity, where do you go when you leave AtG looking for a pub with better wine?

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  • #689
    Heroditas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,710 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    dub_skav wrote: »
    To be honest ATG have always missed a trick with me and a large swathe of their potential custom.
    I really like their selection of beers and would gladly pop in more often, but they fail to cater to my other half. Their wine selection is minimal and seems like tokenism at its finest.
    Actually last week I asked about Prosecco and they have one type, which is a Frizante rather than spumante and is available only by the bottle for an inflated price of 32 quid.

    Our choice of pub is always a trade off between decent wine selection and decent beer selection, if JDW can offer us both a compromise then it will get more of our business.


    Glasses of prosecco in a pub? Only a tiny minority of places would serve a drink like that by the glass.


  • #690
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,245 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    I really don't see any of the good craft pubs being effected by spoons. The people who go for cheap drinks wouldn't go to the likes of atg, black sheep, headline etc anyway and most people who know their beer wouldn't stick to one pub anyway. It's the likes of O'Neills pmacs taphouse etc that try to be everything that'll lose out to someone like spoons.


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  • #691
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Heroditas wrote: »
    Glasses of prosecco in a pub? Only a tiny minority of places would serve a drink like that by the glass.

    Their wine selections is appalling in fairness.


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