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Man your pumps, Wetherspoons are coming

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  • #632
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    The Pepsi is definitely from the gun.


  • #633
    Geuze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,276 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    RasTa wrote: »
    Good price for Red Breast 12, think I paid €8.20 in Brew Dock last week.


    Power's John Lane

    JDW = 7.75
    LMulligan Grocer = 9.00

    Jameson 18yo

    JDW = 8.75
    LMulligan Grocer = 12.00

    http://www.lmulligangrocer.com/

    http://www.lmulligangrocer.com/download/i/mark_dl/u/4012249433/4605307758/Whiskey%20Menu%20February.pdf


  • #634
    Ravelleman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    Aboutime wrote: »
    The Dark Horse sells Guinness,so it will be a one off for me in The four Ts .

    You are allowed to drink other beers, you know.
    Tazz T wrote: »
    Be interesting to see how they fare on the quality of the food.

    I imagine it will be the same as in all the other Spoons - grand but cheap enough to be popular.


  • #635
    Big Nasty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Drinks Menu:

    http://fft.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Final-ROI-Menu_Page_2.jpg


  • #636
    upforit101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 263 ✭✭upforit101


    Big, big, Game changer folks.
    The lack of Guinness and Budweiser is massive -I predict a lot of people who wouldn't have previously tried other beers getting a taste for something different and better value.

    I hope they open up several outlets in the city center.

    If they open up around the Temple bar area - they will clean up.

    Bring it on.


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  • #637
    Big Nasty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Food Menu:

    http://fft.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Final-ROI-Menu_Page_1.jpg


  • #638
    Geuze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,276 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Aboutime wrote: »
    The Dark Horse sells Guinness,so it will be a one off for me in The four Ts .

    You could drink Beamish or Murphy's stout.


  • #639
    dub_skav
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭dub_skav


    upforit101 wrote: »
    Big, big, Game changer folks.
    The lack of Guinness and Budweiser is massive -I predict a lot of people who wouldn't have previously tried other beers getting a taste for something different and better value.

    I hope they open up several outlets in the city center.

    If they open up around the Temple bar area - they will clean up.

    Bring it on.

    I believe Guinness is the only really big deal. Budweiser and Carlsberg are not what they once were in terms of popularity.
    On the Guinness, a lot of Guinness drinkers are even choosy about where they drink Guinness, so are quite used to drinking Heineken when in a pub that does not serve "good" Guinness.

    I think this is a relatively safe move for Wetherspoons and not the risk it initially seems. I actually think not selling Heineken would have been a bigger problem for them.
    I'm also not sure it will open people up to different beers as much as you think, expect a lot of Heineken to be sold, though even if a few try something different that can only be a good thing.


  • #640
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    The dark horse is fooked!


  • #641
    Heroditas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,710 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    dub_skav wrote: »
    I believe Guinness is the only really big deal. Budweiser and Carlsberg are not what they once were in terms of popularity.
    On the Guinness, a lot of Guinness drinkers are even choosy about where they drink Guinness, so are quite used to drinking Heineken when in a pub that does not serve "good" Guinness.

    I think this is a relatively safe move for Wetherspoons and not the risk it initially seems. I actually think not selling Heineken would have been a bigger problem for them.
    I'm also not sure it will open people up to different beers as much as you think, expect a lot of Heineken to be sold, though even if a few try something different that can only be a good thing.


    I completely agree with your last point. I was talking to a work colleague here this morning and he was turning up his nose at the idea of a Wetherspoons in Blackrock, particularly because they wouldn't be Diageo-ised.
    Once I told him that they would still be serving Heineken and it would be under €4, he suddenly changed his opinion of the place. Also, when I went down through the price list, he said "that's not half bad, pity it's a bit far from where I live" (he's a Lucanite, same as myself).
    The Moet is about the same price as you'd get it in the supermarket!

    Echoing what others have said, it'll be a big threat to the Dark Horse.
    Burgers for under a tenner? Not too shabby at all.
    Galway Bay food tends to be a bit pricey and their burger, while nice, is overpriced for what you get. IT certainly sin't nowhere near as nice as the burgers they serve in Douglas and Kaldi (currently my favourite place for burgers) yet the prices are similar.


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  • #642
    upforit101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 263 ✭✭upforit101


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    The dark horse is fooked!

    Ah spare a thought for the cottage group - the price gouging is being interrupted.

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  • #643
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Gouging?

    Are you forced to go there and spend more than you want to?

    You have a choice, drink there or somewhere else, it's hardly gouging.

    And where the hell did "cottage group" come from?
    It's not the name of the company, surely just calling it Galway Bay would make more sense (the actual company name is stupid).

    And I doubt any of the Irish craft beer bars are too worried by Spoons.

    Nobody is going to spend a night in spoons drinking or go out of their way to go there to try new beers very often, which is the attraction of the likes of Porterhouse, GBB bars, Mulligans, The Headline, Farringtons. New beers regularly on top of a massive selection of Irish and International beers.


    People go to 'spoons for something to eat, a drink or two and then go somewhere else, the Irish craft beer bars will still be the "somewhere else".


  • #644
    BeerNut
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Seaneh wrote: »
    And where the hell did "cottage group" come from?
    The company was generally known as The Cottage Group, after The Cottage in Moycullen, before adopting the brewery name for their overall company name.

    My beer blog | Bluesky | My other beer blog



  • #645
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Yeah they will still be there but hopefully they bring their prices down to compete. €7 for a pint of St Augustiner is taking the piss.


  • #646
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    RasTa wrote: »
    Yeah they will still be there but hopefully they bring their prices down to compete. €7 for a pint of St Augustiner is taking the piss.

    It's 5.80 in athlone, so in Dublin it's always going to be 6.50 at the very least.

    They also sell Full Sail for €5.10, which is cheaper than crap macro lager anywhere in Dublin and a damned sight better a beer.

    Their food prices, in Blackrock, will come under review if nothing else, which is a good thing. I don't see them being too concerned about their beer prices any time soon though.


  • #647
    Geuze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,276 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    BeerNut wrote: »
    The company was generally known as The Cottage Group, after The Cottage in Moycullen, before adopting the brewery name for their overall company name.

    Is it not a reference to the Cottage Bar on Lower Salthill?

    http://www.galwaybaybrewery.com/thecottage/


  • #648
    dub_skav
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭dub_skav


    It is an interesting difference in philosophies. In the discussions about the high price of Foam and Fury, people have argued that it is a quality product and is expensive to produce, hence the high cost - GBB philosophy.
    Opposite view where JDW have said that they aim for a pricepoint and Diageo would not allow that, so they refuse to sell Guinness.


  • #649
    Ravelleman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    Seaneh wrote: »
    And where the hell did "cottage group" come from?
    It's not the name of the company, surely just calling it Galway Bay would make more sense (the actual company name is stupid).

    Historically that was the name, though, was it not?


  • #650
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Geuze wrote: »
    Paddy / Powers / Jameson = 5.50 - what is the story here?
    Seems they were all just rounded up. They also might want to steer people towards their possibly more profitable drinks.

    I think they are more than aware of the supposed reputation they have and so have not gone overly cheap. There are pubs around with cheaper drinks, so its not like its really going to be attracting all day binge drinkers, which people thought it might. Cheaper pints & spirits can probably be got in a few pubs in blackrock, if there are any with tuborg/tennants/bavaria etc.

    They are sort of insisting you take a splash with your vodka. I see people sharing a pathetic 200ml of coke into 2 double vodkas -leading to drunkeness.

    The cheap food will also entice people to eat which will curb drunkeness.
    Geuze wrote: »
    Coca-cola 200ml bottles = 1.50 - this seems like good value, are they usually maybe 2.40-2.60??

    Club Orange/lemon 220ml = 2.25 - why so much dearer than Coca-Cola?
    Coke is 2.85 in my local. Club is Irish and I imagine they can source coke a lot cheaper, and it would be a higher volume seller.
    Seaneh wrote: »
    People go to 'spoons for something to eat, a drink or two and then go somewhere else
    I can imagine people leaving their pub for a bite to eat, nipping up to spoons for a burger and pint and heading back to the previous pub. Eddie rockets might end up more screwed than any of the pubs there.


  • #651
    ben.schlomo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,600 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Gauging?

    Are you forced to go there and spend more than you want to?

    You have a choice, drink there or somewhere else, it's hardly gauging.

    And where the hell did "cottage group" come from?
    It's not the name of the company, surely just calling it Galway Bay would make more sense (the actual company name is stupid).

    And I doubt any of the Irish craft beer bars are too worried by Spoons.

    Nobody is going to spend a night in spoons drinking or go out of their way to go there to try new beers very often, which is the attraction of the likes of Porterhouse, GBB bars, Mulligans, The Headline, Farringtons. New beers regularly on top of a massive selection of Irish and International beers.


    People go to 'spoons for something to eat, a drink or two and then go somewhere else, the Irish craft beer bars will still be the "somewhere else".
    No no, Gouging he said, gauging is something they dont do.:cool:


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  • #652
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Geuze wrote: »
    Is it not a reference to the Cottage Bar on Lower Salthill?

    http://www.galwaybaybrewery.com/thecottage/

    Moycullen was the first pub they opened.


  • #653
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Seaneh wrote: »
    .

    I don't see them being too concerned about their beer prices any time soon though.

    They will when more open up and go from the feedback from what will happen out in Blackrock.


  • #654
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Ravelleman wrote: »
    Historically that was the name, though, was it not?

    Nope.
    The Company is called Pizza Elle, has been since they started out renting the kitchen in Massimo in Galway selling, eh, Pizzas.

    After that they opened Mustard, a burger/pizza place on Middle Street that later moved to The Bridge Mills, the burgers were class, and then the pubs came.


  • #655
    Aboutime
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 ✭Aboutime


    Ravelleman wrote: »
    You are allowed to drink other beers, you know.

    Wow really !! Thanks for the heads up!
    However some of us choose to have a particular drink,mines a Smirnoff ,husband has a preference for Guinness.
    For me it would be like going to a vegetarian restaurant ,where they don't serve meat.I like meat.
    Unless of course I have the Guinness and beef pie ,which they serve at TTTT?


  • #656
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Aboutime wrote: »
    Wow really !! Thanks for the heads up!
    However some of us choose to have a particular drink,mines a Smirnoff ,husband has a preference for Guinness.
    For me it would be like going to a vegetarian restaurant ,where they don't serve meat.I like meat.

    I don't see how that's analogous. A more appropriate comparison may be if you only ate lamb, and then had a problem with a restaurant that only sold beef, venison, pork, ostrich and chicken.


  • #657
    upforit101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 263 ✭✭upforit101


    Fact is If cottage group/GBB/ Overcharging Irish Pub owners change their ways then I'll be stunned.

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  • #658
    BaZmO*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Nobody is going to spend a night in spoons drinking or go out of their way to go there to try new beers very often, which is the attraction of the likes of Porterhouse, GBB bars, Mulligans, The Headline, Farringtons. New beers regularly on top of a massive selection of Irish and International beers.
    Apart from the Headline, all those pubs you listed are in town. I'd imagine Spoons are going are going for a local crowd which if hey get it will affect the Dark Horse trade.

    Seaneh wrote: »
    People go to 'spoons for something to eat, a drink or two and then go somewhere else, the Irish craft beer bars will still be the "somewhere else".
    Again, they'd be going for the local trade.


  • #659
    upforit101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 263 ✭✭upforit101


    News just in; Reaction of the Manager of the Mexican football team to the "Spoons" finally breaking the Irish pub owners cartel & price gouging.

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  • #660
    A Primal Nut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    Can't believe how many people think bars have souls.

    Most bars around the city are the same anyway.


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  • #661
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    They are having a ticketed opening weekend event this weekend, they are giving out tickets in Black Rock outside BOI today between 1pm and 2pm and 6pm and 7pm.

    Ticket gets you into the event with free food and drinks for all.


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