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Notorious child abductor arrives in ireland with suitcase full of toys.

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  • #92
    zcorpian88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭zcorpian88


    Nodin wrote: »
    Will he get more than a Paddy because he's foreign, or because hes a pervert?

    Nothing against anyone foreign that's here to work but isn't it obvious he's only here for the generous welfare handouts, like who in the f**k is going to hire him?

    I've been in the welfare office handing in dockets on many occasions and a little bit of easedropping in the queues and you can get all the information you need,,some know how to work the system to their benefit, and in turn gain things that Irish people have to slave for. I'll tell you some live better than any working stiff, Irish or non Irish.


  • #93
    Reformed Character
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    zcorpian88 wrote: »
    Pissed me off immediately reading this, may as well be importing unrehabilitated criminals.

    If he has serious convictions or is threat to society, he should automatically lose his foreign travel privilages, we have enough of a problem with our own criminals never mind taking in new ones.

    F**ker will get full dole and housing benefits etc, too if he decides to settle, more than what a down on their luck Irish person would get.

    Absolute bulls**t!
    zcorpian88 wrote: »
    Nothing against anyone foreign that's here to work but isn't it obvious he's only here for the generous welfare handouts, like who in the f**k is going to hire him?

    I've been in the welfare office handing in dockets on many occasions and a little bit of easedropping in the queues and you can get all the information you need,,some know how to work the system to their benefit, and in turn gain things that Irish people have to slave for. I'll tell you some live better than any working stiff, Irish or non Irish.

    The highlighted part just about sums up both posts. Absolute Bullshít!


  • #94
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,235 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    zcorpian88 wrote: »
    Pissed me off immediately reading this, may as well be importing unrehabilitated criminals.

    If he has serious convictions or is threat to society, he should automatically lose his foreign travel privilages, we have enough of a problem with our own criminals never mind taking in new ones.

    F**ker will get full dole and housing benefits etc, too if he decides to settle, more than what a down on their luck Irish person would get.

    Absolute bulls**t!
    yeah and free cars and mobile phones and child benefit and and and... lets make up more sh1t about welfare.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #95
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,235 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    zcorpian88 wrote: »
    Nothing against anyone foreign that's here to work but isn't it obvious he's only here for the generous welfare handouts, like who in the f**k is going to hire him?

    I've been in the welfare office handing in dockets on many occasions and a little bit of easedropping in the queues and you can get all the information you need,,some know how to work the system to their benefit, and in turn gain things that Irish people have to slave for. I'll tell you some live better than any working stiff, Irish or non Irish.

    You cant just fly into Ireland and sign on.

    Clearly your nosiness is leading you to make completely wrong misinformed assumptions.

    Maybe read about the Habitual Residence Condition before making any more ridiculously wrong comments.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #96
    PLUG71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭PLUG71


    He should be tagged!


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  • #97
    Big C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭Big C


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    yeah and free cars and mobile phones and child benefit and and and... lets make up more sh1t about welfare.

    when he gets sorted with all of the above, what about the taxiplate that will keep him busy ??????


  • #98
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    You cant just fly into Ireland and sign on.

    Clearly your nosiness is leading you to make completely wrong misinformed assumptions.

    Maybe read about the Habitual Residence Condition before making any more ridiculously wrong comments.

    The habitual residence condition isn't difficult for EU nationals to satisfy. While it's all very well calling people out on the more ridiculous claims, there's no point ignoring the fact our social welfare system is both generous and widely abused.


  • #99
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    The habitual residence condition isn't difficult for EU nationals to satisfy. While it's all very well calling people out on the more ridiculous claims, there's no point ignoring the fact our social welfare system is both generous and widely abused.

    Habitual residency is 2 years, no? Why would it be easier for an EU citizen to satisfy?


  • #100
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    tigger123 wrote: »
    Habitual residency is 2 years, no? Why would it be easier for an EU citizen to satisfy?

    I'm pretty sure there are EU rules which over rule social welfare rules when it comes to migrant workers.


  • #101
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure there are EU rules which over rule social welfare rules when it comes to migrant workers.

    Migrant workers? Or EU workers? Or migrant EU workers? Not getting on your case, just curious.


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  • #102
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    PLUG71 wrote: »
    He should be tagged!

    #notorious #child #abductor #suitcase #toys #disgrace #joe


  • #103
    miss no stars
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭miss no stars


    PLUG71 wrote: »
    He should be tagged!

    He should be incarcerated. End of.


  • #104
    allibastor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭allibastor


    I have said it before and I will say it again, We need some mob justice here. There are way to many cases of people hurting and abusing young children and nothing is done about it. These kids cant fight back for themselves, so let someone do that for them.

    I would happily take a hammer to this guys face, but to even the odds I would let him have the first swing at me.


  • #105
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    allibastor wrote: »
    I have said it before and I will say it again, We need some mob justice here. There are way to many cases of people hurting and abusing young children and nothing is done about it. These kids cant fight back for themselves, so let someone do that for them.

    I would happily take a hammer to this guys face, but to even the odds I would let him have the first swing at me.

    "Mob justice" is an oxymoron. Carried out by morons.


  • #106
    allibastor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭allibastor


    Muise... wrote: »
    "Mob justice" is an oxymoron. Carried out by morons.

    156


  • #107
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,235 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    The habitual residence condition isn't difficult for EU nationals to satisfy. While it's all very well calling people out on the more ridiculous claims, there's no point ignoring the fact our social welfare system is both generous and widely abused.

    Oh ffs - the HRC applies to residents as well -
    where is the evidence of widespread abuse?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #108
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Muise... wrote: »
    "Mob justice" is an oxymoron. Carried out by morons.
    Would you say the same thing if this chap was after riding your child? You are aware that this is what this guy travels the world for?


  • #109
    Holsten
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    pablo128 wrote: »
    Would you say the same thing if this chap was after riding your child? You are aware that this is what this guy travels the world for?
    Where is the evidence of that?

    He is in holidays here. That's he only fact you currently know.


  • #110
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Holsten wrote: »
    Where is the evidence of that?

    He is in holidays here. That's he only fact you currently know.
    Convicted for abducting children.
    Barred from the U.S.
    Barred from the U.K.
    On an international watch list.
    Mentally unstable.

    Yeah, holidays. Right.


  • #111
    Reformed Character
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    pablo128 wrote: »
    Convicted for abducting children.
    Barred from the U.S.
    Barred from the U.K.
    On an international watch list.
    Mentally unstable.

    Yeah, holidays. Right.
    Factually incorrect.
    He was convicted of attempting to abduct 1 child, not as you adduce "convicted of abducting children".
    He has no convictions at all for actual child abuse.
    This whole story is overblown hysterical hype, the like of which we have not seen since we started abducting Roma kids on their parents, because we didn't like the colour of their hair!


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  • #112
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    zcorpian88 wrote: »
    Nothing against anyone foreign that's here to work but isn't it obvious he's only here for the generous welfare handouts, like who in the f**k is going to hire him?

    I've been in the welfare office handing in dockets on many occasions and a little bit of easedropping in the queues and you can get all the information you need,,some know how to work the system to their benefit, and in turn gain things that Irish people have to slave for. I'll tell you some live better than any working stiff, Irish or non Irish.

    As you can't arrive and claim, I'd say you've been eavesdropping in your dreams.
    littlecuchulainn wrote:
    I'm pretty sure there are EU rules which over rule social welfare rules when
    it comes to migrant workers.

    So when you're shown to be specifically wrong, you make reference to some vague nonsense, showing you clearly haven't a leg to stand on.

    Why not type "I was wrong", learn, and move on.


  • #113
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,291 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Reformed Character wrote: »
    Factually incorrect.
    He was convicted of attempting to abduct 1 child, not as you adduce "convicted of abducting children".
    He has no convictions at all for actual child abuse.
    This whole story is overblown hysterical hype, the like of which we have not seen since we started abducting Roma kids on their parents, because we didn't like the colour of their hair!


    That is one of the dumbest things i've read on here.
    You are making it out that because he "attempted" to abuct a child... well thats ok. It's not like he did it :rolleyes:

    Mate we are talking about messing around with kids here. It's a serious thing. If someone attempts it, it means there is something not right about them and shouldn't be around kids.


  • #114
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    tigger123 wrote: »
    Migrant workers? Or EU workers? Or migrant EU workers? Not getting on your case, just curious.

    Migrant workers from other EU states.
    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Oh ffs - the HRC applies to residents as well -

    I never said it didn't.
    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    where is the evidence of widespread abuse?

    Well there's half a billion for you.

    http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/state-crackdown-social-welfare-fraud-3397563
    tigger123 wrote: »
    Habitual residency is 2 years, no? Why would it be easier for an EU citizen to satisfy?

    You automatically are habitually resident if here for 2 years but you can still be considered habitually resident if you are here less than that depending on other circumstances, the main one of which is the right to reside in the country, a right which is automatically granted to workers traveling between EU states.
    Nodin wrote: »
    So when you're shown to be specifically wrong, you make reference to some vague nonsense, showing you clearly haven't a leg to stand on.

    Why not type "I was wrong", learn, and move on.

    I'm not sure if you are attacking the right poster there. I only made one previous post in relation to it. And there was only one question asked between my two posts. In any case, I don't believe I am wrong. I believe you are misunderstanding the legislation. The legislation states that you aren't considered habitually resident unless you are here two years unless you can show that you are habitually resident in another way. So while being here two years automatically grants you habitual residency, it is not the only way to gain that status.


  • #115
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    pablo128 wrote: »
    Would you say the same thing if this chap was after riding your child? You are aware that this is what this guy travels the world for?

    Yes. I'd report it to the Gardai instead of rounding up a mob of Hodors to hodor him black and blue.


  • #116
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    .


    I'm not sure if you are attacking the right poster there. I only made one previous post in relation to it. And there was only one question asked between my two posts. In any case, I don't believe I am wrong. I believe you are misunderstanding the legislation. The legislation states that you aren't considered habitually resident unless you are here two years unless you can show that you are habitually resident in another way. So while being here two years automatically grants you habitual residency, it is not the only way to gain that status.

    What's the other way?

    Your mirror article says nothing about abuse of habitual residency etc.


  • #117
    PLUG71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭PLUG71


    Muise... wrote: »
    Yes. I'd report it to the Gardai instead of rounding up a mob of Hodors to hodor him black and blue.

    If somebody touched my kids they would need to be kept well away from me because I would'nt hesitate to try and end there lives!!


  • #118
    Pocoyo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Pocoyo


    Reformed Character wrote: »
    Factually incorrect.
    He was convicted of attempting to abduct 1 child, not as you adduce "convicted of abducting children".

    Stop now just stop.


  • #119
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Nodin wrote: »
    What's the other way?

    http://www.welfare.ie/en/downloads/sw108.pdf

    There's the factors that are considered.
    Nodin wrote: »
    Your mirror article says nothing about abuse of habitual residency etc.

    I never claimed it did. i was asked for proof of abuse of the social welfare system. I gave it.

    Why not just say "I'm sorry" and admit you made a mistake?


  • #120
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    PLUG71 wrote: »
    If somebody touched my kids they would need to be kept well away from me because I would'nt hesitate to try and end there lives!!

    Ah yeah, your touched kids will recover really well with a parent in jail.


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  • #121
    PLUG71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭PLUG71


    Muise... wrote: »
    Ah yeah, your touched kids will recover really well with a parent in jail.

    I would'nt be able to help myself!

    We are all different but im guessing most parents would kill over it.


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