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FREETV · 29-06-2014 06:45PM

No, I am not actually, I am annoyed for every other citizen that will pay.
My partner owns this house so I will not pay a cent for any tap water!:D
I already buy bottled water for drinking. :pac:

FREETV · 29-06-2014 06:50PM

People nationwide should flat out refuse to pay any of their bills and let them put that in their pipes and smoke it.
Once you give in, air tax is next!

Annasopra · 29-06-2014 08:05PM

FREETV wrote: »

I didn't vote these shower of w######s in power and I will never pay for polluted, toxic tap water.
It stinks of chemicals and tastes dreadful. Undrinkable.

They are subservient to the EU and do not listen to the wishes of the people.
Lying corrupt dictators in suits, we would be better off voting the three main parties out of power and vote for Independents and Sinn Fein.
Yes Sinn Fein, because we are not living in a democracy.
We didn't have a vote on whether to implement installation of meters or pay for water charges therefore we are all living in a controlled forced dictatorship.

Show the two fingers to the other three parties and vote for Sinn Fein and Independents if you want to have more of a say and wish to have more money in your already depleted bank accounts.
The Dail is just theatre.
It is a farce. :mad: :P

The same Sinn Fein that charge for water up North?

ZeroThreat · 29-06-2014 08:06PM

gonna be a lot more meatflaps smelling like piss soon.

Reformed Character · 29-06-2014 08:13PM

ardle1 wrote: »

And I really do think that 'occupancy' of house-hold should be a MAJOR factor when calculating bills.

Why?
Do ESB charge a different rate based on occupancy?
Do you pay motor tax based on occupancy levels in your car?
Water is a finite resource, if you want to use clean water then you need to pay for it.
And up until now you haven't been!

Snake · 29-06-2014 08:15PM

FREETV wrote: »

I just saw this online after googling.
I am not affiliated in any way with them.
Protest against water charges in the republic of Ireland | Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Protest-against-water-charges-in-the-republic-of-Ireland/213410058694008?hc_location=timeline

Suuuuuure you're not.

Snake · 29-06-2014 08:16PM

FREETV wrote: »

Bottled water for a shower.
I am looking in to a rain water system and installing it myself for showering in the near future.
The problem with most people in this country is that they just take the hit and accept it instead of using some initiative and sticking up for themselves.
I am talking generally and not having a go at you.

I am a normal person however though when one isn't given a vote and a choice and you are forced against your will to pay for water which is in abundance in Ireland then one knows something is wrong with the way this country is being run.

The leaks in old pipes and implementation of fluoride are the problems.
The normal people are the ones who are protesting about water meters and impending water charges.
Do you think that it is right in your opinion for the public to be screwed until the pips squeak to pay all of these extra taxes including bank charges?

I dont care to be honest

FREETV · 29-06-2014 08:28PM

The water isn't clean, aluminium sulphate is added to make it look clear plus it has lead, mercury, fluoride made from toxic industrial waste from the fertiliser industry and copious amounts of chlorine.
Some people I have heard won't even give the tap water to their dogs or cats.

dxhound2005 · 29-06-2014 08:44PM

FREETV wrote: »

The water isn't clean, aluminium sulphate is added to make it look clear plus it has lead, mercury, fluoride made from toxic industrial waste from the fertiliser industry and copious amounts of chlorine.
Some people I have heard won't even give the tap water to their dogs or cats.

Is a maximum of four parts per million chlorine to water a copious amount? If they are giving their pooches and moggies bottled water it could be just the same as tap water.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/copious

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2190027/Asda-Tesco-selling-tap-water-bottled-water-confusing-customers.html

Snake · 29-06-2014 08:45PM

FREETV wrote: »

The water isn't clean, aluminium sulphate is added to make it look clear plus it has lead, mercury, fluoride made from toxic industrial waste from the fertiliser industry and copious amounts of chlorine.
Some people I have heard won't even give the tap water to their dogs or cats.

I still don't care, mate.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 29-06-2014 08:50PM

FREETV wrote: »

The water isn't clean, aluminium sulphate is added to make it look clear plus it has lead, mercury, fluoride made from toxic industrial waste from the fertiliser industry and copious amounts of chlorine.
Some people I have heard won't even give the tap water to their dogs or cats.

Oh please! All my kids, grandkids, wife and myself have drunk tap water all our lives. The dogs have never shown any ill effects, as neither have we. Those you heard of not giving it to animals need to get some perspective.

I have no more difficulty paying for water than I do for electricity or gas or phones - which little!

893bet · 29-06-2014 08:57PM

I don't see the problem. We have always been on a private scheme so have always paid for water as there was no public option.

I think everyone should pay but obviously the water quality for many people then needs to improve.

dxhound2005 · 29-06-2014 09:13PM

893bet wrote: »

I don't see the problem. We have always been on a private scheme so have always paid for water as there was no public option.

I think everyone should pay but obviously the water quality for many people then needs to improve.

How many? It could well be a small minority nationally but that is a generalisation just like your statement.

It is the way of things that whenever the quality falls below safe standards it makes the news as has happened in Galway. We are hardly likely to get daily news stories saying water is safe today in Cork or Mullingar or wherever. All I know is that in Co Louth both Dundalk and Drogheda have had new water schemes and both towns are well served. And I have never heard of any problems in other places in the county.

What about your county. How many people need to have their public water supply improved to a safe level? And this is a separate issue from the water supply problem in the Dublin area which does not have a sufficient reserve capacity to cope with occasional breakdowns.

FREETV · 29-06-2014 09:20PM

Anybody that will pay twice for a natural resource is utterly foolish.
Here come the paid shills again after I have written this.
The water out of the tap here is dreadful.
It smells bad and is undrinkable and I live near Drogheda.
If you want to be fleeced and out of pocket citizens then more fool you.
By the way cancer has increased exponentially since Fluoride was introduced to tap water here.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 29-06-2014 09:45PM

FREETV wrote: »

Anybody that will pay twice for a natural resource is utterly foolish.
Here come the paid shills again after I have written this.
The water out of the tap here is dreadful.
It smells bad and is undrinkable and I live near Drogheda.
If you want to be fleeced and out of pocket citizens then more fool you.
By the way cancer has increased exponentially since Fluoride was introduced to tap water here.

Where am I paying twice for water? I paid to a group scheme for years until the council took it over and now I pay nothing for water.

Cancer has increased exponentially since the invention of the jet engine: since colour TV and since Joe Duffy took over on lifeline - all connected in a grand conspiracy?

893bet · 29-06-2014 09:58PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

How many? It could well be a small minority nationally but that is a generalisation just like your statement.

It is the way of things that whenever the quality falls below safe standards it makes the news as has happened in Galway. We are hardly likely to get daily news stories saying water is safe today in Cork or Mullingar or wherever. All I know is that in Co Louth both Dundalk and Drogheda have had new water schemes and both towns are well served. And I have never heard of any problems in other places in the county.

What about your county. How many people need to have their public water supply improved to a safe level? And this is a separate issue from the water supply problem in the Dublin area which does not have a sufficient reserve capacity to cope with occasional breakdowns.

Where is the generalisation in my post?=

I said I pay and we have always done. And I think everyone should but if everyone does pay then they should expect a decent drinking supply?

893bet · 29-06-2014 10:06PM

FREETV wrote: »

Anybody that will pay twice for a natural resource is utterly foolish.
Here come the paid shills again after I have written this.
The water out of the tap here is dreadful.
It smells bad and is undrinkable and I live near Drogheda.
If you want to be fleeced and out of pocket citizens then more fool you.
By the way cancer has increased exponentially since Fluoride was introduced to tap water here.

Lolled at your post in rip off forum.

There is little to no evidence to suggest that fluoride is linked to cancer. Loose links in poorly conducted research.

I suspect you are against everything though. Water charges, free tv, government etc.

For what it's worth I do think fluoride should be removed from the drinking water. And if your water tastes like **** I don't blame you for not wanting to pay. Mine is excellent quality.

dxhound2005 · 29-06-2014 10:53PM

893bet wrote: »

Where is the generalisation in my post?=

I said I pay and we have always done. And I think everyone should but if everyone does pay then they should expect a decent drinking supply?

OK not a generalisation but a non specific statement (many people could mean a few hundred or hundreds of thousands). What I wanted to know is how many, or what percentage of households need the improvement in quality which you expect.

From what I read Irish Water will make the supply safe in areas of Galway and Roscommon where it isn't safe from time to time. Is there a problem with the safety of the supply in your area or in other areas apart from those two which I missed in the news?

And of course any supply however paid for should be decent and not just decent but scientifically proven to be safe on an ongoing basis.

893bet · 29-06-2014 11:00PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

OK not a generalisation but a non specific statement (many people could mean a few hundred or hundreds of thousands). What I wanted to know is how many, or what percentage of households need the improvement in quality which you expect.

From what I read Irish Water will make the supply safe in areas of Galway and Roscommon where it isn't safe from time to time. Is there a problem with the safety of the supply in your area or in other areas apart from those two which I missed in the news?

And of course any supply however paid for should be decent and not just decent but scientifically proven to be safe on an ongoing basis.

What pendantic point are you trying to make. I am not even sure if you are agreeing with me or disagreeing with me to be honest.

All I said was I am happy to pay as my water is good. Some peoples water is of poor quality and I don't think they should be expected to pay till this is rectified for good.

dxhound2005 · 30-06-2014 12:17AM

893bet wrote: »

What pendantic point are you trying to make. I am not even sure if you are agreeing with me or disagreeing with me to be honest.

All I said was I am happy to pay as my water is good. Some peoples water is of poor quality and I don't think they should be expected to pay till this is rectified for good.

This is what you wrote:

I think everyone should pay but obviously the water quality for many people then needs to improve.

Now you are saying some people have poor quality water. The only ones that I know of via the media are in Roscommon. It is hardly pedantic to ask how many out of more than a million households do not have a safe supply. You must have had some number in mind when you wrote that.

Scientifically proven safe to drink is the only measure I find relevant and that is not the case in places in Roscommon where Boil Notices are in place.

Poor quality or needs to improve are subjective non scientific measures. Anyone could say my water if of poor quality and it needs to improve and I won't pay until it meets my individual standards. Like our friend from earlier with his chlorine, lead and fluoride concerns.

And I read that the people in Roscommon will not have to pay or not have to pay in full until the Boil Notices are withdrawn.

893bet · 30-06-2014 09:18AM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

This is what you wrote:

I think everyone should pay but obviously the water quality for many people then needs to improve.

Now you are saying some people have poor quality water. The only ones that I know of via the media are in Roscommon. It is hardly pedantic to ask how many out of more than a million households do not have a safe supply. You must have had some number in mind when you wrote that.

Scientifically proven safe to drink is the only measure I find relevant and that is not the case in places in Roscommon where Boil Notices are in place.

Poor quality or needs to improve are subjective non scientific measures. Anyone could say my water if of poor quality and it needs to improve and I won't pay until it meets my individual standards. Like our friend from earlier with his chlorine, lead and fluoride concerns.

And I read that the people in Roscommon will not have to pay or not have to pay in full until the Boil Notices are withdrawn.

No you are being pedantic. Why must I have had a number in my mind? And what difference should it make either way to my point.

No Pants · 30-06-2014 10:18AM

FREETV wrote: »

I am looking in to a rain water system and installing it myself for showering in the near future.

You're going to shower in rain water?

If the above is true, then there's an even easier and cheaper way. Keep a close eye on the weather forecast and when it's going to rain, just walk outside in the nip. Don't let Phil Hogan put you off.

shruikan2553 · 30-06-2014 12:27PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

This is what you wrote:

I think everyone should pay but obviously the water quality for many people then needs to improve.

Now you are saying some people have poor quality water. The only ones that I know of via the media are in Roscommon. It is hardly pedantic to ask how many out of more than a million households do not have a safe supply. You must have had some number in mind when you wrote that.

Scientifically proven safe to drink is the only measure I find relevant and that is not the case in places in Roscommon where Boil Notices are in place.

Poor quality or needs to improve are subjective non scientific measures. Anyone could say my water if of poor quality and it needs to improve and I won't pay until it meets my individual standards. Like our friend from earlier with his chlorine, lead and fluoride concerns.

And I read that the people in Roscommon will not have to pay or not have to pay in full until the Boil Notices are withdrawn.

In Donegal Ive seen water come out brown often. Would be nice to have that fixed but I suppose there's nothing wrong with it scientifically, its probably just a little dirt and won't do us any harm.

Reformed Character · 30-06-2014 02:58PM

FREETV wrote: »

Anybody that will pay twice for a natural resource is utterly foolish.
Here come the paid shills again after I have written this.
The water out of the tap here is dreadful.
It smells bad and is undrinkable and I live near Drogheda.
If you want to be fleeced and out of pocket citizens then more fool you.
By the way cancer has increased exponentially since Fluoride was introduced to tap water here.

A diatribe of incorrect and scaremongering statements.
We don't already pay for it and no link has ever been found between fluoridation of water and increased rates of cancer.

jimgoose · 30-06-2014 03:01PM

Bathrooms/WCs up and down the land stinking of piss and shít because everyone is too cute to flush. People up and down the land stinking of piss, shít and stale sweat because everyone is too cute to wash. Welcome to one of the less salubrious parts of Calcutta folks. Brave New World is right! :pac::pac::pac:

dxhound2005 · 30-06-2014 04:47PM

jimgoose wrote: »

Bathrooms/WCs up and down the land stinking of piss and shít because everyone is too cute to flush. People up and down the land stinking of piss, shít and stale sweat because everyone is too cute to wash. Welcome to one of the less salubrious parts of Calcutta folks. Brave New World is right! :pac::pac::pac:

Most people don't live in houses now anyway because of the property tax. So you won't notice any difference.

uch · 30-06-2014 05:00PM

FREETV wrote: »

The water isn't clean, aluminium sulphate is added to make it look clear plus it has lead, mercury, fluoride made from toxic industrial waste from the fertiliser industry and copious amounts of chlorine.
Some people I have heard won't even give the tap water to their dogs or cats.

I would class these people as Fruitcakes TBH

ardle1 · 01-07-2014 03:05AM

Reformed Character wrote: »

Why?
Do ESB charge a different rate based on occupancy?
Do you pay motor tax based on occupancy levels in your car?
Water is a finite resource, if you want to use clean water then you need to pay for it.
And up until now you haven't been!

Aye, so a decent single Mum with four kids, who showers! who feeds! who washes their uniforms etc etc........ WILL end up paying 'possibly' 5 times as much as a young couple(both working)eating out every third night or so etc etc....
I say FCUK OFF to that SERIOUSLY

No Pants · 01-07-2014 11:44AM

ardle1 wrote: »

Aye, so a decent single Mum with four kids, who showers! who feeds! who washes their uniforms etc etc........ WILL end up paying 'possibly' 5 times as much as a young couple(both working)eating out every third night or so etc etc....
I say FCUK OFF to that SERIOUSLY

So who do you propose pays for this single mother and her four kids to have a water supply?

By the way, I fail to see the relevance of the eating habits of the couple to the water supply for the single mother.

The Dagda · 01-07-2014 02:38PM

Reformed Character wrote: »

A diatribe of incorrect and scaremongering statements.
We don't already pay for it

Who pays for it so?

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