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STB · 24-06-2014 11:59am

Thor is 0.8w.

Left to right looking at the dish is obviously 28, 23, 19, 13, 0.8W

snaps · 24-06-2014 4:19pm

micks_address wrote: »

Hi folks

Hoping to get the t90 installed this evening..

Just wondering - the 'Thor' beam you refer to on the thread - what SAT is that on?

I am going for 19, 13, 23 and 28, and if he can put the lnb from the sky dish on the t90, what would be the next best one to go for?

Cheers,
Mick

Use the sky lnb for one of the strong satellites, ie 28east

Also not sure your location but the Nordic beams on 1 west and 5east will be too weak for you also.
When I was in mayo even 7east was a struggle with a 1.1m (serious rain fade)

My favourite SATs are: 20w, 15w, 12.5w, 5w, 4w, 1w, 9e, 13e, 19e, 23.5, 26e, 28e and 42east.

Luckily I'm in middle east Europe, so my Nordic beams, Amos 4w, all 42east are the strongest I get. Only beam I cannot get is uk freesat 28 east.

micks_address · 25-06-2014 6:06pm

STB wrote: »

Thor is 0.8w.

Left to right looking at the dish is obviously 28, 23, 19, 13, 0.8W

Hi Guys,

Dish install nearly finished, will post pics later if the rain stops

In relation to thor - installer asked me which transponder am i interested in so he can check with his meter?

Thanks,
Mick

radiowaves · 25-06-2014 6:23pm

micks_address wrote: »

Hi Guys,

Dish install nearly finished, will post pics later if the rain stops

In relation to thor - installer asked me which transponder am i interested in so he can check with his meter?

Thanks,
Mick

There's virtually no FTA there mate, what card have you got?

You will also lose the Scandanavian HDs in any sort of wet weather (if you can get them at all).

STB · 25-06-2014 8:30pm

If you have no cards, I wouldnt leave it on Thor 0.8W.

I would move it to 7E. You can then try out the Outside Broadcast links. There are some links frequencies used on Thor but not as many as 7E which reguarly has horse racing (ATR & Racing UK) and football games on it.

micks_address · 26-06-2014 8:00am

Hi Guys,

Up and running since last night, will take pictures tonight and post

On .8W, 13, 19, 23, 28

I have to say the install of the T90 takes a long time! Credit to the guy who did it for me, he was about 3 hours Tuesday evening and 3 hours yesterday getting everything right. I would never ever have been able to do it.

He reckoned he could have installed a 1 metre motorised dish in one hour..

We had an interesting discussion about Inverto LNBs.. he had one with him and a titanium dual line lnb, he put both on the dish with his meter at .08w and no difference in signal strength. He reckons its a bit of a myth that the Invertos are better?

Anyway I think i need to take a language course now.. if i could speak german, italian, french and spanish i think i'd be well on the way.. Did a scan of the sats and hve something like 4k channels now

Of course not may are FTA

Anyway thanks for all the help and advice - are there any android phone apps that will tell you what matches etc are on which channels when the footie is in season?

Cheers,
Mick

STB · 26-06-2014 9:02am

He is wrong about the Inverto Black Ultras. I have two and it a noticeable +10% jump on an enigma meter.

The soccer site for the channels are http://liveonsat.com/quickindex.html

The ones that are free to air with be marked in red.

kingtiger · 26-06-2014 9:43am

Hi Mick

What sat did he centre the dish on?

you can get this app for Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=difed.soccersat to find out what channels sports are on (uses LJs whats on Sat)

micks_address · 26-06-2014 10:20am

Hi Mate,

I'm not sure?

I dropped you a pm

Cheers,
Mick

kingtiger wrote: »

Hi Mick

What sat did he centre the dish on?

you can get this app for Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=difed.soccersat to find out what channels sports are on (uses LJs whats on Sat)

radiowaves · 26-06-2014 11:06am

Seconded on the Inverto LNBs - it has been mentioned a few times throughout this thread by a couple of us (and on other threads - run a search).

I wouldn't trust any installer who wasn't aware of the advantages in using them (although to really see the benefit they should be tried on a weaker satellite).

I am now happily watching glitch-free channels across the arc that I routinely used to lose in rain.

From getting nothing on 7.3W I can now pull in a number of channels!

micks_address · 26-06-2014 11:36am

If it means which LNB is closest to the centre of the dish then id say probably .8W the other lnb are all to the left of the bar on the dish as i look at it.. ill post pictures tonight

Pictures now attached

kingtiger wrote: »

Hi Mick

What sat did he centre the dish on?

you can get this app for Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=difed.soccersat to find out what channels sports are on (uses LJs whats on Sat)

micks_address · 27-06-2014 7:51am

Hi Guys,

Now that I have 28, 23, 19, 13 and .8W up on running on the T90 and I have 3 ports left on the diseque switches -

What would the next three lnbs be worth pointing at?

Have to wait till the missus goes on holidays for a week in august but i might sneak some more lnbs on then

Cheers,
Mick

kooga · 27-06-2014 9:06am

mick,

first of all well done on the set up. top marks
try

9/10

4.8

or you might get something beyond .8w maybe 5 west

Greenman · 27-06-2014 3:32pm

micks_address wrote: »

If it means which LNB is closest to the centre of the dish then id say probably .8W the other lnb are all to the left of the bar on the dish as i look at it.. ill post pictures tonight

Pictures now attached

Looks like a very tidy install. I wish you many happy viewing hours with the T-90. I've had mine for years and love it.

Enclosed one pic of mine T-90,CM 1.2m and TD 110 all on one pole.

picture.php?albumid=407&pictureid=12535

makeorbrake · 27-06-2014 5:37pm

Nice Job, Mick - well done :-)

snaps · 27-06-2014 7:02pm

Greenman wrote: »

Looks like a very tidy install. I wish you many happy viewing hours with the T-90. I've had mine for years and love it.

Enclosed one pic of mine T-90,CM 1.2m and TD 110 all on one pole.

When did you get a t90 green man? I remember your 7west dish from the past and viewed it with envy!

micks_address · 27-06-2014 7:23pm

snaps wrote: »

When did you get a t90 green man? I remember your 7west dish from the past and viewed it with envy!

Can you pick up all. 8w with a dedicated dish pointed at it?

Greenman · 27-06-2014 8:05pm

snaps wrote: »

When did you get a t90 green man? I remember your 7west dish from the past and viewed it with envy!

Got it in 2009, great dish except I did not like the lnb holders so I modded it, I got the holders from a RimaNTSS a Boardie and a local machine shop made the bits.

Greenman · 27-06-2014 8:10pm

micks_address wrote: »

Can you pick up all. 8w with a dedicated dish pointed at it?

Its the wifes dish and AFAIK she can pick up most things. Tell me a channel and I'll tell you if we can get it.

You really will love the T-90 and they are such a bargain.

micks_address · 27-06-2014 8:19pm

Greenman wrote: »

Its the wifes dish and AFAIK she can pick up most things. Tell me a channel and I'll tell you if we can get it.

You really will love the T-90 and they are such a bargain.

You are a lucky man. My wife isn't as in love with the t90 as i am

As an aside anyone know if there's an Android app for channels listing that show the programme name in English?

Greenman · 27-06-2014 8:39pm

micks_address wrote: »

You are a lucky man. My wife isn't as in love with the t90 as i am

As an aside anyone know if there's an Android app for channels listing that show the programme name in English?

The TD 110 is hers aswell, its for Arabsat.

Explain more re App.

micks_address · 27-06-2014 8:50pm

Greenman wrote: »

The TD 110 is hers aswell, its for Arabsat.

Explain more re App.

App like a TV channel listing but shows programme name in English?

kingtiger · 27-06-2014 9:19pm

Lovely job by the installer, cabling is something to be proud of, but cant figure out how the dish is centered

but that aside Mick, good man and welcome to the very addictive "hhmmm see can I get that Sat"

picture.php?albumid=407&pictureid=12535

jasus Greenman, love it

but how do you get away with that? the missus must be giving you the "evil eye" every day

Greenman · 27-06-2014 10:49pm

kingtiger wrote: »

jasus Greenman, love it

but how do you get away with that? the missus must be giving you the "evil eye" every day

Not really its mainly all for her as I'm an Astra 28.2 man.

radiowaves · 28-06-2014 9:09am

micks_address wrote: »

As an aside anyone know if there's an Android app for channels listing that show the programme name in English?

There is an EPG Translator plugin; try your feed.

Or apply Google Translate to your favoured channel provider site

micks_address · 20-07-2014 3:58pm

Hi guys,
Ordered a quad black ultra from Amazon as had some vouchers, going to swap it with the current dual smart titanium that's on. 8w

Any sat suggestions on where to wire in the smart titanium to?

Cheers.
Mick

radiowaves wrote: »

Seconded on the Inverto LNBs - it has been mentioned a few times throughout this thread by a couple of us (and on other threads - run a search).

I wouldn't trust any installer who wasn't aware of the advantages in using them (although to really see the benefit they should be tried on a weaker satellite).

I am now happily watching glitch-free channels across the arc that I routinely used to lose in rain.

From getting nothing on 7.3W I can now pull in a number of channels!

micks_address · 28-07-2014 1:45pm

Hi Guys,

The black ultra lnb arrived, i was wondering how easy it would be to swap in with the titanium lnb i have there already pointing at 1w. Would there be alignment issues? I might be better off getting my Sat installer back to do it, but he is on holidays at the moment

Cheers,
Mick

Zardoz · 28-07-2014 1:50pm

micks_address wrote: »

Hi Guys,

The black ultra lnb arrived, i was wondering how easy it would be to swap in with the titanium lnb i have there already pointing at 1w. Would there be alignment issues? I might be better off getting my Sat installer back to do it, but he is on holidays at the moment

Cheers,
Mick

Do it yourself ,very simple job ,no point calling an installer for that .

micks_address · 28-07-2014 3:58pm

Zardoz wrote: »

Do it yourself ,very simple job ,no point calling an installer for that .[/QUOTE

So it should be just a case of unscrewing the sat cables from the existing lnb, taking the lnb from the holder and puttling the new one in and connecting all up?

Zardoz · 28-07-2014 5:19pm

micks_address wrote: »

Zardoz wrote: »

Do it yourself ,very simple job ,no point calling an installer for that .[/QUOTE

So it should be just a case of unscrewing the sat cables from the existing lnb, taking the lnb from the holder and puttling the new one in and connecting all up?

Yeah but you will have to keep the skew similar and also the front of the lnb distance to the dish may need to be adjusted to peak the signal.
Its trial and error ,but you cant really do any damage .

micks_address · 28-07-2014 5:44pm

Zardoz wrote: »

micks_address wrote: »

Yeah but you will have to keep the skew similar and also the front of the lnb distance to the dish may need to be adjusted to peak the signal.
Its trial and error ,but you cant really do any damage .

OK so I swapped out the titanium and put in the inverto. I've attached signal strength from my solo 2 on thor. No perceived increase in strength. Perhaps I haven't got it perfect?

Zardoz · 28-07-2014 8:39pm

micks_address wrote: »

OK so I swapped out the titanium and put in the inverto. I've attached signal strength from my solo 2 on thor. No perceived increase in strength. Perhaps I haven't got it perfect?

You will have to vary the skew and the front of the lnb distance to the dish to maximise the signal.
You can check the signal strength on a laptop running vu player or open webif or else get someone to watch the tv while you adjust it.

micks_address · 28-07-2014 9:17pm

Zardoz wrote: »

You will have to vary the skew and the front of the lnb distance to the dish to maximise the signal.
You can check the signal strength on a laptop running vu player or open webif or else get someone to watch the tv while you adjust it.

I have vu player on my phone and it seems to be working. Is the best thing to do to switch to a channel on. 8w then play with the rotation and distance of the lnb from the front of the dish?

micks_address · 28-07-2014 9:25pm

micks_address wrote: »

I have vu player on my phone and it seems to be working. Is the best thing to do to switch to a channel on. 8w then play with the rotation and distance of the lnb from the front of the dish?

And when setting which should you do first skew or distance from front of dish?

dxhound2005 · 28-07-2014 9:37pm

micks_address wrote: »

Zardoz wrote: »

OK so I swapped out the titanium and put in the inverto. I've attached signal strength from my solo 2 on thor. No perceived increase in strength. Perhaps I haven't got it perfect?

That tp 10716 H is on the K1 beam which is not favourable for Ireland. Maybe 8 dB is a good result on a 90 cm dish where you are. I get 11.3 dB with 1.1 m dish in Dundalk.

http://www.telenorsat.com/satellites-teleports/satellite-fleet/thor-6-k1-2/

A stronger footprint is T2, Sky News on 12418 V 7/8 is 15.7 dB here.

http://www.telenorsat.com/satellites-teleports/satellite-fleet/thor-5-t2-2/

micks_address · 28-07-2014 9:47pm

dxhound2005 wrote: »

micks_address wrote: »

That tp 10716 H is on the K1 beam which is not favourable for Ireland. Maybe 8 dB is a good result on a 90 cm dish where you are. I get 11.3 dB with 1.1 m dish in Dundalk.

http://www.telenorsat.com/satellites-teleports/satellite-fleet/thor-6-k1-2/
Do you think playing with the skew and position of lnb I can increase the db?

A stronger footprint is T2, Sky News on 12418 V 7/8 is 15.7 dB here.

http://www.telenorsat.com/satellites-teleports/satellite-fleet/thor-5-t2-2/

micks_address · 28-07-2014 9:59pm

dxhound2005 wrote: »

micks_address wrote: »

That tp 10716 H is on the K1 beam which is not favourable for Ireland. Maybe 8 dB is a good result on a 90 cm dish where you are. I get 11.3 dB with 1.1 m dish in Dundalk.

http://www.telenorsat.com/satellites-teleports/satellite-fleet/thor-6-k1-2/

A stronger footprint is T2, Sky News on 12418 V 7/8 is 15.7 dB here.

http://www.telenorsat.com/satellites-teleports/satellite-fleet/thor-5-t2-2/

I'm getting 14.25db on sky news

dxhound2005 · 28-07-2014 10:05pm

micks_address wrote: »

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I'm getting 14.25db on sky news

If it is a 90 cm dish that is probably good. The only way to know would be to connect the box to another dish in your area if you know someone who has one. As you can see from the link the footprint for 10716 would be better where I am than further south and west, in theory anyway.

micks_address · 29-07-2014 8:29pm

After adjusting skew now have 15.25 on sky news... So definitely an improvement.

micks_address · 02-09-2014 4:08pm

Hi Guys,

With my T90 setup, would it be possible to add an LNB for 30W for portuguese tv?

Cheers,
Mick

radiowaves · 02-09-2014 4:09pm

micks_address wrote: »

Hi Guys,

With my T90 setup, would it be possible to add an LNB for 30W for portuguese tv?

Cheers,
Mick

In a word - no.

micks_address · 02-09-2014 4:18pm

radiowaves wrote: »

In a word - no.

hmmm i have 28 on the very left of my arc..(looking at the dish) so there is no chance i can get 30w on the very right? bummer...

radiowaves · 02-09-2014 4:21pm

micks_address wrote: »

hmmm i have 28 on the very left of my arc..(looking at the dish) so there is no chance i can get 30w on the very right? bummer...

Only option (with your setup) is a separate dish.

micks_address · 02-09-2014 4:23pm

radiowaves wrote: »

Only option (with your setup) is a separate dish.

Thanks whats the furthest west I can get with my alignment?

Cheers,
Mick

radiowaves · 02-09-2014 4:24pm

micks_address wrote: »

Thanks whats the furthest west I can get with my alignment?

Cheers,
Mick

It's usually a 40 degree arc covered - give or take. You should get 5w easily.

micks_address · 13-10-2014 11:41am

Hi Guys,

After the strong wind in dublin last week my signal on some channels on Thor and the polish channels have weakened. I'm guessing something was knocked slightly out of alignment. I'm still getting all on France/Spain and Uk sats perfectly.

My question is would it just be the lnbs that need re positioning or would the dish also have become slightly out of alignment?

Cheers,
Mick

makeorbrake · 13-10-2014 11:57am

micks_address wrote: »

Hi Guys,

After the strong wind in dublin last week my signal on some channels on Thor and the polish channels have weakened. I'm guessing something was knocked slightly out of alignment. I'm still getting all on France/Spain and Uk sats perfectly.

My question is would it just be the lnbs that need re positioning or would the dish also have become slightly out of alignment?

Cheers,
Mick

Hi Mick. It could be either/or. You'll have to get up there and go through process of elimination. It's a good idea to have the lnb positions marked - and also dish angle marked - so that if either is knocked out of position, it's easy to put back in position.

Those T90's take a hell of a loading. That dish will be tested over the next 6 months - hopefully its not in too exposed a position. otherwise, this is why it's preferable to have them ground mounted.

micks_address · 04-03-2015 7:08pm

makeorbrake wrote: »

Hi Mick. It could be either/or. You'll have to get up there and go through process of elimination. It's a good idea to have the lnb positions marked - and also dish angle marked - so that if either is knocked out of position, it's easy to put back in position.

Those T90's take a hell of a loading. That dish will be tested over the next 6 months - hopefully its not in too exposed a position. otherwise, this is why it's preferable to have them ground mounted.

Hi guys,
Just wondering what required signal strength is for good reception on 13

Ive lost one or two channels since fiddling with the lnb

Signal strength for hbo HD..

Does that seem reasonable?

Canal film2 HD no longer tuning
Cheers
Mick

dxhound2005 · 04-03-2015 8:25pm

Nothing should have caused channels to disappear except what you did with the LNB. All the footprints B, C and D are very strong over Ireland.

http://www.flysat.com/hotbird.php

I am getting Film 2 at 13.8 dB. 10892 H 27500 3/4 ?

HBO HD2 17.2 dB. 10834 V 27500 3/4 ?

1.1 m dish.

micks_address · 04-03-2015 8:47pm

micks_address wrote: »

Hi guys,
Just wondering what required signal strength is for good reception on 13

Ive lost one or two channels since fiddling with the lnb

Signal strength for hbo HD..

Does that seem reasonable?

Canal film2 HD no longer tuning
Cheers
Mick

Sounds like the lnb isn't quite right so with my lower db

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