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Whats your setup?

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  • #212
    championc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,518 ✭✭✭championc


    Looking at implementing the following setup, do I just need standard twin LNB's or are they special ones that are needed ?

    switch2.jpg


  • #213
    iba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭iba


    championc wrote: »
    Looking at implementing the following setup, do I just need standard twin LNB's or are they special ones that are needed ?

    switch2.jpg

    If I understand your picture correctly. I think you should get quad LNBs and then just 4 Diseqc switches.

    Or you could get a multi switch and then I think you only need single LNBs.


  • #214
    Apogee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,903 ✭✭✭Apogee


    championc wrote: »
    Looking at implementing the following setup, do I just need standard twin LNB's or are they special ones that are needed ?

    That setup as drawn will not work. If you want to receive 4 orbital positions on 4 different receivers, you will need 4x quad LNBFs and 4x 4-way diseqc switches.


  • #215
    championc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,518 ✭✭✭championc


    Apogee wrote: »
    That setup as drawn will not work. If you want to receive 4 orbital positions on 4 different receivers, you will need 4x quad LNBFs and 4x 4-way diseqc switches.

    I got that diagram off a website so it wasn't something I just drew myself. In what way will it not work because I have (maybe stupidly) gone and bought the 4 multiswitches already ?


  • #216
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,273 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    championc wrote: »
    I got that diagram off a website so it wasn't something I just drew myself. In what way will it not work because I have (maybe stupidly) gone and bought the 4 multiswitches already ?

    What website and which multiswitches did you buy?


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  • #217
    iba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭iba


    championc wrote: »
    I got that diagram off a website so it wasn't something I just drew myself. In what way will it not work because I have (maybe stupidly) gone and bought the 4 multiswitches already ?

    What I guess is that you want to have a sat signal going to 4 receivers (I guess 4 different rooms). For this you only need 4 Quad LNBs and 4 4x1 Diseqc switchs.

    You say you have bought a multi switch (times 4), so then I think you only need 4 single LNBs. I presume that the multi switch is a 4 in and a 4 out? Perhaps you could post a link to what you have bought?

    Or better still, actually explain what you want to do to save us all from guessing?


  • #218
    Peter Rhea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    iba wrote: »
    You say you have bought a multi switch (times 4), so then I think you only need 4 single LNBs.

    You think wrong. Anyway, I'd say it's 4 DiSEqC switches of some description he bought, not multiswitches, although he could use a single multiswitch with inputs for multiple satellite positions.


  • #219
    Peter Rhea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    championc wrote: »
    I got that diagram off a website so it wasn't something I just drew myself. In what way will it not work because I have (maybe stupidly) gone and bought the 4 multiswitches already ?

    Are your receivers all single-tuner? Or maybe you're using that diagram to represent a couple of twin-tuner receivers?

    How many actual tuners do you want to feed the multi-sat. signal to?


  • #220
    championc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,518 ✭✭✭championc


    Here are the multi-switches I bought - exactly the ones in the diagram.

    sam3402_zoom.gif

    I can see that I have somewhat overcomplicated things unnecessarily !!


  • #221
    iba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭iba


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    You think wrong. Anyway, I'd say it's 4 DiSEqC switches of some description he bought, not multiswitches, although he could use a single multiswitch with inputs for multiple satellite positions.

    I want to get a multi-switch, will this work:

    http://satsklep.pl/en_US/p/Multiswitch-58-MS-BL58B-Blue-Line-/460

    I have 5 LNBs going into an 8x1 Diseqc and then I want the signal to go to three receivers.


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  • #222
    Peter Rhea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    championc wrote: »
    Here are the multi-switches I bought - exactly the ones in the diagram.

    Not much use for European setups. Just outline exactly what you want to achieve: how many satellite positions, to how many tuners.


  • #223
    Peter Rhea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    iba wrote: »
    I want to get a multi-switch, will this work:

    http://satsklep.pl/en_US/p/Multiswitch-58-MS-BL58B-Blue-Line-/460

    I have 5 LNBs going into an 8x1 Diseqc and then I want the signal to go to three receivers.

    The 8x1 DiSEqC switch can only feed a single tuner. If you want to feed multiple tuners from 5 satellite positions, you will need a multiswitch with at least 20 satellite inputs: switches for 5 - 8 sat. positions listed here.


  • #224
    iba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭iba


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    The 8x1 DiSEqC switch can only feed a single tuner. If you want to feed multiple tuners from 5 satellite positions, you will need a multiswitch with at least 20 satellite inputs: switches for 5 - 8 sat. positions listed here.

    So you need Quad LNBs too and get rid of the Diseqc switch?


  • #225
    Peter Rhea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    iba wrote: »
    So you need Quad LNBs too and get rid of the Diseqc switch?

    The multiswitch takes over the band/polarity switching carried out by a 'universal' LNB, such as a quad or octo. Some multiswitches will only work with quattro LNBs: LNBs with 4 fixed outputs, 1 for each band/polarity 'block', rather than the 4 switchable outputs of a quad.

    The switches that work with quad LNBs, do so by effectively turning the quad into a quattro, by keeping each output permanently switched to 1 of the 4 band/polarity blocks (vertical low, vertical high, horizontal low, horizontal high).

    Multiswitches that cater for more than 1 sat. position, have the DiSEqC switching built in.


  • #226
    championc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,518 ✭✭✭championc


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    Not much use for European setups.

    What is wrong with them ? Are they working with wrong frequencies ?
    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    Just outline exactly what you want to achieve: how many satellite positions, to how many tuners.

    I have a 1m fixed dish and want to get maybe 13e and 19e and maybe one other (suggestions please). I have a twin tuner Amiko Alien2 and then a TV with an onboard Sat tuner so that's three receivers. So I want any tuner to be able to do anything.


    I obviously thought that I could just have two cables per LNB from the dish rather than 4 per quattro and then also thought that cheaper more basic multi-switches would do the job


    Many thanks


  • #227
    Peter Rhea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    There was no mention of multiswitches until you brought them up yourself. :)

    If I was feeding 4 sat. positions to 3 tuners, I would use 4 quad LNBs, with 1 cable from each LNB to each of 3 DiSEqC switches (4x1 type, as linked to here), then each switch output serves 1 tuner . Each tuner will then be able to access any of the 4 sat. positions.

    Maybe you also want to include terrestrial feeds on the same cables?


  • #228
    championc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,518 ✭✭✭championc


    Thanks Peter

    Sorry to press you but would the Zinwell switches not work (in case I'm too late to cancel them)

    The only issue I would somehow like to avoid is with both of the tuners on my AA2 using the same polarization thus limiting me sometimes to half of the channels.


  • #229
    Peter Rhea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    No, those Zinwell switches are for American LNBs that don't use high/low band switching. From what I can make out, they must work in a similar manner to quad-compatible European switches, effectively converting the US version of what we would call a 'twin' LNB to what we would call a 'dual' LNB (2 fixed outputs, horizontal & vertical).

    All you need, is a 4-way switch for each tuner, so each tuner can connect to an output of any of 4 quad LNBs. The LNB will still do all the band & polarity switching.


  • #230
    Apogee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,903 ✭✭✭Apogee


    championc wrote: »
    I got that diagram off a website so it wasn't something I just drew myself. In what way will it not work because I have (maybe stupidly) gone and bought the 4 multiswitches already ?

    Cancel your order or consider sending them back. They are only suitable for a US setup where they have a single band and H/V polarisation. In Europe, we have 2 bands (22KHz on/off) in addition to H/V polarisation.

    As Peter has mentioned, for 3 tuners and 4 orbital positions, you need 3x 4-way diseqc switches and 4 quad LNBFs.


  • #231
    kooga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭kooga


    This thread is way too quiet................would somebody post a pic of there set up with a 90cm dish. Thanks


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  • #232
    iba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭iba


    The top dish is an 88cm dish, close enough?

    7a82bc73eb0acb8b13dd14c8cee697e2.png

    4213c7e6e6e305fb2fc571be97b23fc0.png


    Top dish has 28/26/23/19 and 13

    Bottom dish is on a motor


  • #233
    kooga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭kooga


    thank you, whats your 26 reception like?


  • #234
    iba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭iba


    kooga wrote: »
    thank you, whats your 26 reception like?

    on the 88, excellent in good weather, poor in rainy weather.

    on the motor, nearly excellent all the time in all weather.

    But I love 26 because of MBC 2 (recent movies all the time) and MBC Action (TV shows all the time eg Game of thrones, Blue Bloods - that sort of thing).

    All in English but with Arabic subs which do not bother me at all.


  • #235
    iba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭iba


    MBC2 right now on motor:

    f82f948e55f8aff863c36bccfb8af1ff.png

    and MBC Bollywood is fun too


  • #236
    championc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,518 ✭✭✭championc


    iba wrote: »
    4213c7e6e6e305fb2fc571be97b23fc0.png
    dish has 28/26/23/19 and 13

    So towards which satellite is the dish primarily pointing at ? I have a 1m Lenson Heath dish and have the multisat arm and 3 lnb's ready to go so any pointers would be most welcome :)


  • #237
    RimaNTSS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭RimaNTSS


    I am very limited in space here, I mean maximum arc is 31,5*E-12,5*W. T90 and motorized 1,20cm (small video how it moves)


  • #238
    iba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭iba


    championc wrote: »
    So towards which satellite is the dish primarily pointing at ? I have a 1m Lenson Heath dish and have the multisat arm and 3 lnb's ready to go so any pointers would be most welcome :)

    It's at 26

    What sets do you want, then we can tell you where to point it?


  • #239
    iba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭iba


    RimaNTSS wrote: »
    I am very limited in space here, I mean maximum arc is 31,5*E-12,5*W. T90 and motorized 1,20cm (small video how it moves)

    That's a jpeg rather than a vid

    Me too. Can't go over 31.5 because of line of site, houses in the way. Think I can go to. 7/8 on the other side though.


  • #240
    RimaNTSS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭RimaNTSS


    Video will be dowloadable when you klick on word "video"


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  • #241
    kooga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭kooga


    iba wrote: »
    on the 88, excellent in good weather, poor in rainy weather.

    on the motor, nearly excellent all the time in all weather.

    But I love 26 because of MBC 2 (recent movies all the time) and MBC Action (TV shows all the time eg Game of thrones, Blue Bloods - that sort of thing).

    All in English but with Arabic subs which do not bother me at all.


    i see black ultras lnbs to help improve signal


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