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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭edgecutter


    I would love sanchez at united, put I am gearing up for another disappointing summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Western Pomise


    Right lads...going to play devils advocate to the Vidal love in....Gary Medel also looked class tonight,this the rotund lad who was only average in Premiership this year!:)...Vidal has energy and talent but is he 'the best midfielder in the world'...which he said in an interview...about himself!
    Watched him seven or eight times for Juve this year and he only stood out in around two games as a lad you would love to see at OT.
    He is 27 as well so if he came for a huge fee he would have poor sell on value...and seems Juve would be talking 50m euro plus for him...and that was pre WC.
    PS-will gladly be proven wrong if he signs and proves he is the best Midfielder in World!;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭shadowcomplex


    M!Ck^ wrote: »
    Any clips of RVP's goal tonight lads? Can't find it on stream.

    http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/robin-van-persie-holland-2-2-v-australia-vine/


  • Posts: 19,923 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kryogen wrote: »
    I assume you are basing that off the match and not the entire season he spent in the league?

    He was very good before the Cardiff move, surprised he went there but had a lot of off field problems. United could have done with some of his attributes last season if only for him to rile up the rest of the players when it was going pear shaped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,741 ✭✭✭Hococop


    What the hell was song thinking, hope that kills any rumours with us


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,042 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Some players' value will go way up after the WC, some will be going for a song

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,690 ✭✭✭ElChe32


    Hococop wrote: »
    What the hell was song thinking, hope that kills any rumours with us

    He's an over rated benchwarmer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    So then Thomas Vermaelen...do not want!

    At times I find myself watching Holland defend through my fingers it's that comical, Vermaelen to add solidity to Jones and Smalling who aren't strangers to a gaffe now and then themselves is a recipe for disaster I think.

    Although Holland switched to a 433 type in the second half and looked more solid, I wouldn't mind seeing Evans, Jones and Smalling compete for a place beside a more experienced defender in that type of system.

    Depay and Sanchez would be welcome addictions to the flanks, both will move for the right price and we've cash to burn so why not.

    I read somewhere that Strootman won't be back playing until the end of August so Van Gaal will surely have to bring in someone unless he wants to start the season with Carrick and Cleverley. Fabregas moving to Chelsea was difficult to swallow, I've no idea who we will be after. Vidal living up to the hype in these matches so far he is so relentless, serious fantasy signing for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭miralize


    So then Thomas Vermaelen...do not want!

    At times I find myself watching Holland defend through my fingers it's that comical, Vermaelen to add solidity to Jones and Smalling who aren't strangers to a gaffe now and then themselves is a recipe for disaster I think.

    ... except Vermaelen is Belgian


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    Right lads...going to play devils advocate to the Vidal love in....Gary Medel also looked class tonight,this the rotund lad who was only average in Premiership this year!:)...Vidal has energy and talent but is he 'the best midfielder in the world'...which he said in an interview...about himself!
    Watched him seven or eight times for Juve this year and he only stood out in around two games as a lad you would love to see at OT.
    He is 27 as well so if he came for a huge fee he would have poor sell on value...and seems Juve would be talking 50m euro plus for him...and that was pre WC.
    PS-will gladly be proven wrong if he signs and proves he is the best Midfielder in World!;)

    He played DM for Cardiff I think, and last night he was playing CB for Chile. It won't work in the Prem league purely because he hasn't got the height to be a CB against such tall players. Spain in general isn't reknowned for the height of their team.

    I would sign him as a DM back-up though. He reminds me of Park, in that, to quote Pirlo he seems "nuclear powered" and is relentless without the ball. Could be a very handy player to have on the bench to shore things up.

    Regarding Vidal, an absolute must buy. What a player. Having watched him a few times playing for Juventus, the Chile v Spain game just has me all hot and sweaty :pac: for the lad. Brilliant.

    Memphis Depay as well looked sensational on the wing for Holland yesterday. Could be another handy signing, especially with the LvG factor.

    Alexis Sanchez would do terrible, terrible things to the Premier League, especially in a counter attacking team. Methinks himself and Chico could form a lethal partnership against high line teams.

    Blind as well for Holland is another player worth watching.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    miralize wrote: »
    ... except Vermaelen is Belgian

    I think that he was saying, given the way Van Gaal has set up the Netherlands defence and assuming he does something similar at United, he doesn't think Vermaelen would be good enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 944 ✭✭✭Delboy5


    Sounds like Woodward is still persuing an elite signing, offer for Cavani on the table apparently.............why why why ??!!??

    If he wants an elite signing at least buy one for an area of the pitch we actually need............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Adamcp898


    And I see maintenance on the Kroos rumour mill has been completed........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    Adamcp898 wrote: »
    And I see maintenance on the Kroos rumour mill has been completed........
    Manchester United target Toni Kroos, 24, is no closer to committing his future to Bayern Munich despite the midfielder's team-mates Thomas Muller and Philipp Lahm being given new deals. Daily Mail

    Daily Fail - Ignore completely.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Delboy5 wrote: »
    Sounds like Woodward is still persuing an elite signing, offer for Cavani on the table apparently.............why why why ??!!??

    If he wants an elite signing at least buy one for an area of the pitch we actually need............

    I'm not saying I believe the rumour or not.

    But I do find it weird that people go on about what we "need" when they also don't know what LVG has planned with regards shipping out people. If, for example, Rooney does get moved on, we would very much then be in need of a top level striker, due to RVP's age and injury proness...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭uggybear


    Can I just ask, if you watch all of Utd's games on tv and would prefer not to go to a football match because of the volatile and toxic atmosphere
    (and plus it's so bloody expensive!) does that make you less of a fan? Got criticised last season online from a regular match-going fan for saying "pity the last two games aren't on tv" to which he replied "not good enough, try turning up eh?". :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    uggybear wrote: »
    Can I just ask, if you watch all of Utd's games on tv and would prefer not to go to a football match because of the volatile and toxic atmosphere
    (and plus it's so bloody expensive!) does that make you less of a fan? Got criticised last season online from a regular match-going fan for saying "pity the last two games aren't on tv" to which he replied "not good enough, try turning up eh?". :rolleyes:

    Tell him to f*ck off and then carry on doing whatever makes you happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    uggybear wrote: »
    Can I just ask, if you watch all of Utd's games on tv and would prefer not to go to a football match because of the volatile and toxic atmosphere
    (and plus it's so bloody expensive!) does that make you less of a fan? Got criticised last season online from a regular match-going fan for saying "pity the last two games aren't on tv" to which he replied "not good enough, try turning up eh?". :rolleyes:

    Well obviously, as a fan, you want to get out an support your team whenever possible. It's easy sitting on the couch and enjoying the game, but try sitting in the stands signing the chants and screaming. It's what football is all about.

    Granted, because LOI is shíte (Oh no I didn't), most Irish people follow a UK team and can't get to games regularly, but if you've got the opportunity, go. Toxic atmosphere my bollox. The atmosphere of Old Trafford is sensational in person.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Remember Bangkok said Vidal wasn't worth more than €30m?


    Good times...


    yea £30m would be a fair price for him, not as if he is 22 and the type of game he plays cant see him playing that way past his 30's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Macca07


    bangkok wrote: »
    yea £30m would be a fair price for him, not as if he is 22 and the type of game he plays cant see him playing that way past his 30's

    Seriously???

    Vidal is a beast of a player, has proved it all season with Juve, and now in the World Cup against Spain.

    Will it take an outstanding performance against Holland before you admit you were wrong?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Rumour today is united are prepared to offer Bayern Munich £40 million for Arjen Robben.

    If an offer has been made for Cavani, and if there is any truth in Robben being wanted, it would suggest players like Young, Valencia and maybe Nani are on the sell list.

    All we can do is speculate on rumours.


  • Posts: 19,923 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Rumour today is united are prepared to offer Bayern Munich £40 million for Arjen Robben.

    If an offer has been made for Cavani, and if there is any truth in Robben being wanted, it would suggest players like Young, Valencia and maybe Nani are on the sell list.

    All we can do is speculate on rumours.

    My speculation is 40m for Robben is absolute horseshìt of the highest order.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,779 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    uggybear wrote: »
    Can I just ask, if you watch all of Utd's games on tv and would prefer not to go to a football match because of the volatile and toxic atmosphere
    (and plus it's so bloody expensive!) does that make you less of a fan? Got criticised last season online from a regular match-going fan for saying "pity the last two games aren't on tv" to which he replied "not good enough, try turning up eh?". :rolleyes:

    Just ignore it, got told by a United fan who lived a few mins from Old trafford that I wasnt a fan because I'm not from Manchester, saying this guy was aggressive about it would be a understatement!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,937 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Rumour today is united are prepared to offer Bayern Munich £40 million for Arjen Robben.

    If an offer has been made for Cavani, and if there is any truth in Robben being wanted, it would suggest players like Young, Valencia and maybe Nani are on the sell list.

    All we can do is speculate on rumours.

    Really don't understand why we would be in for Cavani, unless it is woodward ploughing on with his superstar signing wish.

    He is, apparently, unhappy at PSG because he has been pushed out wide to accomodate Ibra, and I can't see any different happening at United with RVP in Ibra's place. Don't see where LVG would plan on fitting him in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭newballsplease


    Robben is 30 isnt he?
    40million on him? No, its bull.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Really don't understand why we would be in for Cavani, unless it is woodward ploughing on with his superstar signing wish.

    He is, apparently, unhappy at PSG because he has been pushed out wide to accomodate Ibra, and I can't see any different happening at United with RVP in Ibra's place. Don't see where LVG would plan on fitting him in.

    Selling Rooney???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    Really don't understand why we would be in for Cavani, unless it is woodward ploughing on with his superstar signing wish.

    He is, apparently, unhappy at PSG because he has been pushed out wide to accomodate Ibra, and I can't see any different happening at United with RVP in Ibra's place. Don't see where LVG would plan on fitting him in.

    I can only see it if Rooney is on the way out and LvG plans on playing a sort-of 4-3-1-2 situation, with Mata/Kagawa playing #10 behind RVP and Cavani.

    Other than that I can't see why United would bid for a player unhappy with his position, and presumably play him in that same position.


  • Posts: 19,923 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Macca07 wrote: »
    Seriously???

    Vidal is a beast of a player, has proved it all season with Juve, and now in the World Cup against Spain.

    Will it take an outstanding performance against Holland before you admit you were wrong?

    I wouldn't give more than 30-35m for Vidal. There's quality out there for that price that would build for long term. United can't afford to throw 30m at every player and unlike City and Chelsea have finite resources.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭tossy


    Liam O wrote: »
    My speculation is 40m for Robben is absolute horseshìt of the highest order.

    I agree, if we pay 40 million for him we will be the laughing stock of European football and the first number in every agents phone book. We don't need a Robben or a Cavani. We need a Hummels and a Schweinsteiger (possibly a younger version too if possible lol)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Macca07 wrote: »
    Seriously???

    Vidal is a beast of a player, has proved it all season with Juve, and now in the World Cup against Spain.

    Will it take an outstanding performance against Holland before you admit you were wrong?

    admit what?? yes he is a world class player but he is 27 and plays a box to box midfielder role, his legs wont carry him forever. 30m maybe 35 would be a fair bid. what do people here expect his price to be?? if we were going to pay 40m + why not just buy Pogba who is 21!


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