Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

newballsplease

Buttner's agent: 'Staying with United was not an option for Alexander. In the past two years, Van Gaal ignored him time and again.' (via VI)
Buttner's agent Alexander Bursac:'...especially now that Evra has extended his contract and the club is trying to get Luke Shaw.' (via VI)


Same source i quoted above

Manutd_4life

newballsplease wrote: »

Buttner's agent: 'Staying with United was not an option for Alexander. In the past two years, Van Gaal ignored him time and again.' (via VI)
Buttner's agent Alexander Bursac:'...especially now that Evra has extended his contract and the club is trying to get Luke Shaw.' (via VI)


Same source i quoted above

Always wanted to see him tried out as a LW. He always seemed much more threatening on the attack from the wing than as a defender at the back

Manutd_4life

In regards to Shaqiri:

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bangkok

buttner is a terrible footballer. best of luck to him where ever he goes

Manutd_4life

bangkok wrote: »

buttner is a terrible footballer. best of luck to him where ever he goes

Pretty direct but true i guess.

Pro. F

Burner is a decent squad player and I'd much rather have him as back-up than Evra. It's a pity it's worked out this way.

bangkok

Pro. F wrote: »

Burner is a decent squad player and I'd much rather have him as back-up than Evra. It's a pity it's worked out this way.

buttner over evra as backup?! no, not even a contest.

Pro. F

bangkok wrote: »

buttner over evra as backup?! no, not even a contest.

Butner over Evra for back-up or first choice if it comes to it. Butner is a not great full-back, Evra is poison.

Manutd_4life

Pro. F wrote: »

Burner is a decent squad player and I'd much rather have him as back-up than Evra. It's a pity it's worked out this way.

He'll never get a glimpse of first team football with evra and shaw in the squad, so it really is the best decision for him. The agent even confirmed the shaw interest again

Mr_Red

So many players leaving the club and Fcuk all arriving.

Our Starting 11 will have 3 or 4 original starters and the rest made up of reserves ( maybe some new players ) lol

bangkok

Pro. F wrote: »

Butner over Evra for back-up or first choice if it comes to it. Butner is a not great full-back, Evra is poison.

evra is not as bad as everyone makes out. was one of the worlds best left back for years, cant be helping him that he has either Ashley young or kagawa playing ahead of him now who rarely track back. I love the myth of not seeing much of buttner but he surely must be better that evra. Buttner is actually a terrible player. no positional sense, terrible in possession had a decent first leg against Bayern is the highlight of his united "career".
Evra starting the world cup in superb form and long may it continue

Mr.Prodston

It's a shame, I have a lot of time for Buttner after the Munich game and thought he did quite well in the games he played this season. Assuming Evra won't be with us longer we'll need a back up LB in another year or 2 and I'd be quite happy to have Buttner do that job.

If he wants to play every week then fair play to him, and I wish him well.

(This all under the premise that we sign an LB of course :pac:)

newballsplease

I wouldnt be surprised with this club if they let Buttner go and wernt able to bring in another left back before season starts.

TheDoc

Thought Buttner bought himself the chance to be seriously considered.

He dealt with Robben effectively, whereas the highly lauded Acqueta, Ramos and Pique let him run riot only last week.

Hopefully he can grind out a good career for himself.

dahat

Mr_Red wrote: »

So many players leaving the club and Fcuk all arriving.

Our Starting 11 will have 3 or 4 original starters and the rest made up of reserves ( maybe some new players ) lol

De clutter and then re stock....

beakerjoe

bangkok wrote: »

evra is not as bad as everyone makes out. was one of the worlds best left back for years, cant be helping him that he has either Ashley young or kagawa playing ahead of him now who rarely track back. I love the myth of not seeing much of buttner but he surely must be better that evra. Buttner is actually a terrible player. no positional sense, terrible in possession had a decent first leg against Bayern is the highlight of his united "career".
Evra starting the world cup in superb form and long may it continue

Ill reserve judgment til after til after the first round knockout phase. He played well against a poor team. Also they will play 2 more sub par opposition in the next group games. Id like to see how he would handle a better quality side in the competition

Macca07

It has started again...

Wesley Sneijder would consider offer from Louis van Gaal

TheDoc

In fairness if this does end up, with LVG doing his first press conference with a big curtain behind hi, and him behaving in a extravagent CEO at a keynote presentation, with the curtain unveiled to have a load of top class players on a podium, that is totally fine by me

uggybear

Macca07 wrote: »

It has started again...

Wesley Sneijder would consider offer from Louis van Gaal

Bit late in his career to be linked with utd again, should be signing some youth or at least bring in some of the players from reserves, why loan-out Promising players like Tunnicliffe time and time again until he signs permanently for another club like Fulham? The Loan policy is not making any sense, we cannot lose anymore young players due to financial debt that Glazers brought on us

Iseedeadpixels

uggybear wrote: »

Bit late in his career to be linked with utd again, should be signing some youth or at least bring in some of the players from reserves, why loan-out Promising players like Tunnicliffe time and time again until he signs permanently for another club like Fulham? The Loan policy is not making any sense, we cannot lose anymore young players due to financial debt that Glazers brought on us

Because they are not good enough.

bucketybuck

Assuming we have a new first choice left back I would far rather have Evra as cover than Buttner.

He is an experienced international club legend. His ability has never been in doubt, the issue has been his workrate this last few seasons and I would expect that to be less of an issue if he were getting plenty of rest and only coming in when needed.

ericzeking

LVG is just doing that thing where you sell all the players on FIFA and just leave the minimum required 16 to trump up your budget to make some signings and then you go and make your Man United dream team....

Pity about Buttner, seemed like a decent lad and was definitely on the upgrade...he'll do grand for himself and I wouldn't be surprised if we crossed paths with him again.

Pro. F

bangkok wrote: »

evra is not as bad as everyone makes out. was one of the worlds best left back for years, cant be helping him that he has either Ashley young or kagawa playing ahead of him now who rarely track back. I love the myth of not seeing much of buttner but he surely must be better that evra. Buttner is actually a terrible player. no positional sense, terrible in possession had a decent first leg against Bayern is the highlight of his united "career".
Evra starting the world cup in superb form and long may it continue

I had a few responses to your various points written out, but I'm not going to bother. If you're still defending Evra at this stage and using a game against Honduras as proof of anything then I don't believe you are serious about the discussion.

martinr5232

dahat wrote: »

De clutter and then re stock....

Are they Dutch ?? Can they play midfield ??

MagicIRL

Pro. F wrote: »

I had a few responses to your various points written out, but I'm not going to bother. If you're still defending Evra at this stage and using a game against Honduras as proof of anything then I don't believe you are serious about the discussion.

Bangkok is ITK. Respect him and Toni Kroos when he turns up. :cool:

RobertKK

Macca07 wrote: »

It has started again...

Wesley Sneijder would consider offer from Louis van Gaal

Sneijder: "Nobody from the Netherlands can simply reject van Gaal.”

ok, we want Robben :P

Maximus Alexander

RobertKK wrote: »

Sneijder: "Nobody from the Netherlands can simply reject van Gaal.”

Except Büttner! :eek:

Blatter

TheDoc wrote: »

Thought Buttner bought himself the chance to be seriously considered.

He dealt with Robben effectively, whereas the highly lauded Acqueta, Ramos and Pique let him run riot only last week.

Hopefully he can grind out a good career for himself.

He did well in that game against Robben but it's easier for defenders to look good in a team that's sitting so deep for the entire game. There was constantly plenty of cover and much less chance of getting exposed. I wouldn't be getting excited by that game at all, Ferdinand played and looked good as well.

bangkok

Pro. F wrote: »

I had a few responses to your various points written out, but I'm not going to bother. If you're still defending Evra at this stage and using a game against Honduras as proof of anything then I don't believe you are serious about the discussion.

no but you were saying Buttner was better backup than evra!! that is a ridiculous statement.

FutureGuy

bangkok wrote: »

no but you were saying Buttner was better backup than evra!! that is a ridiculous statement.

Please do not start talking about ridiculous statements....