Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2014 - Mod Warning post #6893

gafferino · 09-06-2014 08:46AM

Fieldog wrote: »

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/08/luis-suarez-world-cup-uruguay-fitness-knee-surgery-liverpool-england

Doesn't sound to me like he is unhappy at Liverpool according to this interview....

Sure we will know come the end of transfer season...

Very good interview.

Agueroooo · 09-06-2014 08:57AM

Suso agent confirms they are in talks with Porto for a permanent move.

That makes me very sad.

It's no coincidence it's Porto who have a habit of signing players like Suso and turning them into superstars and selling on for mega profit.

Would be a mistake imo but I think he only has a year left so we looked goosed on this one..boooooo.

Vinz Mesrine · 09-06-2014 09:01AM

Agueroooo wrote: »

Suso agent confirms they are in talks with Porto for a permanent move.

That makes me very sad.

It's no coincidence it's Porto who have a habit of signing players like Suso and turning them into superstars and selling on for mega profit.

Would be a mistake imo but I think he only has a year left so we looked goosed on this one..boooooo.

We will regret this.

Devilman40k · 09-06-2014 09:05AM

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

We will regret this.

Unless we insist on a buyback clause

mike65 · 09-06-2014 09:06AM

A pity, sounds like he out of contract. If so that's a boo boo, need sell on/buy back clauses.

Vinz Mesrine · 09-06-2014 09:07AM

Devilman40k wrote: »

Unless we insist on a buyback clause

If he is happy to leave now, why would he want to come back? It's all well and good putting clauses like that in but the players doesn't have to agree to coming back.

Devilman40k · 09-06-2014 09:09AM

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

If he is happy to leave now, why would he want to come back? It's all well and good putting clauses like that in but the players doesn't have to agree to coming back.

No but we get first option at a reduced price, plus as mike said..stick in some sell on agreement too.

Vinz Mesrine · 09-06-2014 09:11AM

Devilman40k wrote: »

No but we get first option at a reduced price, plus as mike said..stick in some sell on agreement too.

I know we'd get first option but that also means he has first opportunity to tell us to take a jump. A sell on clause, I am in full agreement with. I can see him at Barcelona within 5 years.

Agueroooo · 09-06-2014 09:12AM

Suso agent is also quoted as saying there is an offer of an extension by us, but he is reluctant to sign with the amount of limited playing time he will get.

Fingers crossed it's just his agent looking for some commitments first cause Suso going will most definitely come back and bite us imo.

Dickerty · 09-06-2014 09:12AM

But with a year back, and we won't promise him a lot of starts, no reason for him to sign a new deal.
I don't think he'll progress sufficiently that we'll bring him back. Solid enough, but lacks the pure pace, killer passing or long shot to be a huge threat in that position, Coutinho and Sterling already far more effective...

Vinz Mesrine · 09-06-2014 09:15AM

Agueroooo wrote: »

Suso agent is also quoted as saying there is an offer of an extension by us, but he is reluctant to sign with the amount of limited playing time he will get.

Fingers crossed it's just his agent looking for some commitments first cause Suso going will most definitely come back and bite us imo.

I could actually see him getting a lot of game time with us next season, players with his ability to see a pass will be crucial in breaking down the teams who will arrive at Anfield and park the bus.

Dickerty · 09-06-2014 09:19AM

I see Mandzukic has officially said he wants to leave Bayern, cause Guardiola doesn't play to his style.
I wonder if United would go there, or could he de-facto trade places with Lewandowski at BD?

ben.schlomo · 09-06-2014 09:21AM

He didnt exactly light La Liga on fire lads, i wouldnt be concerned at all that he leaves, we have better players in his position and will hopefully be signing more of a better standard.

gafferino · 09-06-2014 09:25AM

ben.schlomo wrote: »

He didnt exactly light La Liga on fire lads, i wouldnt be concerned at all that he leaves, we have better players in his position and will hopefully be signing more of a better standard.

I think he did quite well actually. He is still only a kid and it was his first full senior football season. He was also playing in a side battling relegation.

I will be disappointed if we lose him but realistically I cant see him getting much game time for the next 2-3 seasons so I understand why he would want to move.

Dickerty · 09-06-2014 09:26AM

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

I could actually see him getting a lot of game time with us next season, players with his ability to see a pass will be crucial in breaking down the teams who will arrive at Anfield and park the bus.

He did better for Almeria last season, but do you know how many assists he had in 2012/13 for us? Zero, in 14 apperarances.
And in the previous season in the reserves, he only had 3 in 17 starts.

There is a misinformed view, IMO, that Suso is a magician. Really, he's better than Pacheco, but considerably poorer than Coutinho (only 1 year older) and Sterling (1 year younger).

Teams parking the bus need a Plan B like Lambert, not another player trying to pick a miracle pass between 2 rows of 4...

Vinz Mesrine · 09-06-2014 09:26AM

ben.schlomo wrote: »

He didnt exactly light La Liga on fire lads, i wouldnt be concerned at all that he leaves, we have better players in his position and will hopefully be signing more of a better standard.

Suarez, Messi, Ronaldo and Welbeck would struggle to perform well in that Almeria side.

Turtyturd · 09-06-2014 09:28AM

Let him go....he's no Jonjo.

Dickerty · 09-06-2014 09:33AM

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

Suarez, Messi, Ronaldo and Welbeck would struggle to perform well in that Almeria side.

Oh please. There is a lot more room to work within in La Liva. Great players stand out no matter what their level. Obviously, having better players around you helps, but you still play the same opponants over the season as every other player in your position...

Turtyturd · 09-06-2014 09:42AM

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

Suarez, Messi, Ronaldo and Welbeck would struggle to perform well in that Almeria side.

Ah c'mon, Welz is the best player eva. No bother to him.

Agueroooo · 09-06-2014 09:48AM

Turtyturd wrote: »

Ah c'mon, Welz is the best player eva. No bother to him.

Big missed opportunity on the 'bother' there.

Your standards a slipping turty...100 lines for me in the morning.

slingerz · 09-06-2014 10:52AM

I dont see Suso turning out to be the world superstar some are hoping for really.

GotTheTshirt · 09-06-2014 10:56AM

" 70% of the earth is covered by water.

The rest is covered by Jordan Henderson. "

Nuri Sahin · 09-06-2014 11:11AM

Lopetegui is the new Porto manager, previously was the Spain U21 coach too and is known to rate Suso highly. So Porto's interest in Suso isn't too surprising. Hope we're sounding how much Danilo and Sandro are, latter if we miss out on Moreno somehow.

Yeşil has arrived in Turkey for talks today to have talks with Trabzonspor over a loan deal - http://www.turkish-football.com/news_read.php?id=5991

gimli2112 · 09-06-2014 11:16AM

Hoddle thinks playing Sterling is a risk and can't be trusted after his sending off.
Glen Hoddle

I really have to stop reading stuff that makes me angry!

Augmerson · 09-06-2014 11:21AM

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Yeşil has arrived in Turkey for talks today to have talks with Trabzonspor over a loan deal - http://www.turkish-football.com/news_read.php?id=5991

I thought he was finished? I had high hopes for him but think it was two ACL injuries back to back which for a striker is bad.

Dickerty · 09-06-2014 11:42AM

Well I am glad he is fit enough to go out on loan. Another year in reserves would be no good for him, a loan is a good move.

Dickerty · 09-06-2014 11:46AM

gimli2112 wrote: »

Hoddle thinks playing Sterling is a risk and can't be trusted after his sending off.
Glen Hoddle
I really have to stop reading stuff that makes me angry!

He's such an idiot. Sterling got 3 bookings in 33 games last season. He's played central, on the wing and at RB, he's an excellent tackler and very calm these days. Valencia grabbed him by the throat and he didn't even react!

:mad:

Agent Coulson · 09-06-2014 11:46AM

Leaning is nothing new :P

27 years ago today.

Hidalgo · 09-06-2014 11:56AM

Dickerty wrote: »

Ah, it's busy when something v good or v bad happens!

So if Moreno is coming, that's an excellent start. All we really need then is another attacking player/midfielder, and a CB if we are shipping one out. Also some rumours that Porto want Suso, I wouldn't be shocked it we let him go...

I'd be hopeful that a CB would be bought regardless of one being shipped on.

09-06-2014 12:01PM

Dickerty wrote: »

He's such an idiot. Sterling got 3 bookings in 33 games last season. He's played central, on the wing and at RB, he's an excellent tackler and very calm these days. Valencia grabbed him by the throat and he didn't even react!

:mad:

He didn't react because he knew it was an awful tackle. If the tackle had have landed another way Valencia would have been out of the WC.

Agree with the Hoddle being idiotic though he's just exaggerating.

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