VDSL Stats - Whats yours?

OneEightSeven · 04-06-2014 03:57PM

Could be the quality of the copper slowing it down.

smemon · 04-06-2014 04:20PM

OneEightSeven wrote: »

Could be the quality of the copper slowing it down.

it's possible... although house is less than 10 years old so i should hope not! either way, decided to stick to cat 6 and free up some power sockets... plus i know i'm guaranteed max speed and don't have to troubleshoot powerline problems...

a couple of months ago i was having massive problems with my home network and turns out neighbour was using the same powerline adapters but only switching them on and off at certain times... so when he'd switch them on, my desktop would sync with his router...

so renaming / security the network helped solve that problem but had me stumped for days until i realised i could access their router..

dazdrog · 04-06-2014 06:22PM

rang vodafone yesterday and again today as i never received the promised call back about changing my profile and im being told they are waiting on eircom to sort it, that the cab is coming back as locked to 50/15. strange that as a few months ago i had this from magnet on the same line

Line Rate (Down / Up) 50174 Kbps / 20478 Kbps
Noise Margin (Down / Up) 9.3 dB / 9.1 dB
Attenuation (Down / Up) 14.2 dB / 5.2 dB
Power (Down / Up) 12.4 dBm / 1.6 dBm

that was before vectoring, and these are my stats now im with vodafone with vectoring enabled on the cab

Line standard VDSL2
Channel type None
Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 50176
Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 15360
Downstream attainable data rate(kbit/s) 65980
Upstream attainable data rate(kbit/s) 23621
Downstream SNR (dB) 14.5
Upstream SNR (dB) 14.2
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 14.2
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 4.9
Downstream output power (dBmV) 12.5
Upstream output power (dBmV) 1.7

Praetorian · 05-06-2014 10:48PM

I am enjoying my 70/20 speeds, superb ping and reliable connection. I do have to reboot the router every so often. It's only a small problem. I'm still looking forward to q4 for system level vectoring to be enabled! So I can hopefully get 100m/bit

Also I hope Eircom eventually allow a boost in upload speed. 25m/bit + looks doable.

Cork981 · 05-06-2014 11:42PM

Praetorian wrote: »

I'm still looking forward to q4 for system level vectoring to be enabled! So I can hopefully get 100m/bit
.

What's systems level vectoring ? What do we actually have now if it's not full vectoring ?

jca · 05-06-2014 11:49PM

Cork981 wrote: »

What's systems level vectoring ? What do we actually have now if it's not full vectoring ?

Some of the larger cabinets like mine unfortunately will have to be system vectored as opposed to standard vectoring the normal sized cabinets have now. I reckon there could be 300 or more premises wired into the cabinet I'm on.

AlanS181824 · 05-06-2014 11:55PM

Praetorian wrote: »

I am enjoying my 70/20 speeds, superb ping and reliable connection. I do have to reboot the router every so often. It's only a small problem. I'm still looking forward to q4 for system level vectoring to be enabled! So I can hopefully get 100m/bit

Also I hope Eircom eventually allow a boost in upload speed. 25m/bit + looks doable.

Nice speeds!

Really hope Eircom allow for faster upload speeds

My attainable up has been 28Mb for a while now although it does fluctuate.

25Mb upload would be amazing...

keno-daytrader · 06-06-2014 11:02AM

jca · 06-06-2014 11:19AM

Has any non UPC customer hit the magic 100 Mb/s yet?

halkar · 06-06-2014 11:36AM

How do you guys get to see attainable speed on voda routers? I can't see on mine. I use the admin account. Do I need to use another account?

jantheman91 · 06-06-2014 01:48PM

How are people getting 90?

I thought Eircom/VFone have capped everyone at 70?

OneEightSeven · 06-06-2014 01:52PM

jantheman91 wrote: »

How are people getting 90?

I thought Eircom/VFone have capped everyone at 70?

Vectoring.

jantheman91 · 06-06-2014 01:59PM

OneEightSeven wrote: »

Vectoring.

So one would assume that at less than 200m, and still only getting 70/20 that vectoring has yet to be enabled. correct?

OneEightSeven · 06-06-2014 02:18PM

jantheman91 wrote: »

So one would assume that at less than 200m, and still only getting 70/20 that vectoring has yet to be enabled. correct?

Post your stats. One should see a dramatic increase in Downstream SNR (dB) when vectoring in enabled.

You should also use Mozilla Firefox to view your Upstream and Downstream attainable data rate(kbit/s).

Access your router's configuration page
Click on Wan under Status
Click on VDSL
Right-click and select "inspect element"

You should see this page below. Keep unticking every box where is says style="display:none"></tr> until you see your attainable data rates.

foggy_lad · 06-06-2014 03:24PM

poor enough results considering I'm only 200m from the cabinet

ED E · 06-06-2014 03:53PM

Attenuation is way high, either you arent connected the cab you think you are OR there is a fault.

OneEightSeven · 06-06-2014 04:10PM

Mostly likely a fault because his upload speed is good.

@Foggy Lad, find your attainables like I instructed in my previous post. It will help us figure out if there's a fault.

AlanS181824 · 06-06-2014 05:03PM

foggy_lad wrote: »

poor enough results considering I'm only 200m from the cabinet

Your attenuation is way too high to ever have a stable connection.

foggy_lad · 06-06-2014 05:05PM

here it is with every hidden value uncovered

AlanS181824 · 06-06-2014 05:07PM

foggy_lad wrote: »

here it is with every hidden value uncovered

How are your attainable lower than what you're actually syncing at?

I haven't a clue how to help so ima just let the experts here help.

Hope you get it sorted soon.

foggy_lad · 06-06-2014 05:08PM

ED E wrote: »

Attenuation is way high, either you arent connected the cab you think you are OR there is a fault.

I'm connected to a cabinet that is 16 semi detached houses away which is quite close really as the houses are built on top of each other:D

For anyone that might know about this stuff and faults etc, if the socket back plate(the fibre socket was installed/attached over the original eircom back plate) was faulty and did not give a good solid connection would that affect the speeds?

jantheman91 · 06-06-2014 05:12PM

foggy_lad wrote: »

I'm connected to a cabinet that is 16 semi detached houses away which is quite close really as the houses are built on top of each other:D

That's quite remarkable.

I'm sort of the same. I'm closer to the cabinet than a lot of people on here, yet I still have higher attenuation, lower SNR values and lower speeds.

Strange indeed - I'd say you've a fault. 44dB is WAY TOO HIGH.

ED E · 06-06-2014 05:30PM

foggy_lad wrote: »

I'm connected to a cabinet that is 16 semi detached houses away which is quite close really as the houses are built on top of each other:D

For anyone that might know about this stuff and faults etc, if the socket back plate(the fibre socket was installed/attached over the original eircom back plate) was faulty and did not give a good solid connection would that affect the speeds?

Then its pretty clear, either your line was in crap condition already and wasnt noticed, OR the contractor botched the installation.

One thing you could try is connecting direct to the drop to test. On the front of the NTU(socket) there are two screws, if you remove them the front plate will pull out and expose the jack for a direct connection to the drop. Plug the DSL cable from your modem into that and check the stats. If theyre much better, then its the faceplate wiring or the internal cabling in your home. If not, its between yourself and the cab.

If you arent bothered with that just call your provider and wait for the techs to come back.

EDIT:
Pics here for reference http://www.electrical-contractor.net/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/136911/Irish_telephone_connectors.html

foggy_lad · 06-06-2014 05:32PM

Convinced now that the socket/installation is faulty, just went and pushed against the socket gently as the internet light was blinking when it should have been solid, lost the link completely and was gone for several minutes. it's just back now and line stats have slightly changed

foggy_lad · 06-06-2014 05:36PM

ED E wrote: »

Then its pretty clear, either your line was in crap condition already and wasnt noticed, OR the contractor botched the installation.

One thing you could try is connecting direct to the drop to test. On the front of the NTU(socket) there are two screws, if you remove them the front plate will pull out and expose the jack for a direct connection to the drop. Plug the DSL cable from your modem into that and check the stats. If theyre much better, then its the faceplate wiring or the internal cabling in your home. If not, its between yourself and the cab.

If you arent bothered with that just call your provider and wait for the techs to come back.

EDIT:
Pics here for reference http://www.electrical-contractor.net/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/136911/Irish_telephone_connectors.html

The new socket was placed over the old eircom socket afaik but I told the guy that the eircom socket was faulty, maybe he thought I meant just the cover part but the back part with that "drop jack" is the problem, The plugs dont sit into it properly without being pressed upwards towards the little wire pins. installer told me he had changed the socket.

AlanS181824 · 06-06-2014 05:43PM

foggy_lad wrote: »

Convinced now that the socket/installation is faulty, just went and pushed against the socket gently as the internet light was blinking when it should have been solid, lost the link completely and was gone for several minutes. it's just back now and line stats have slightly changed

There has to be a serious error somewhere along the line as you've been connected less than 30 seconds and there's already several thousand errors.

I'd get Vodafone to look at that asap.

Clearly a fault somewhere on your line.

AlanS181824 · 06-06-2014 05:51PM

foggy_lad wrote: »

The new socket was placed over the old eircom socket afaik but I told the guy that the eircom socket was faulty, maybe he thought I meant just the cover part but the back part with that "drop jack" is the problem, The plugs dont sit into it properly without being pressed upwards towards the little wire pins. installer told me he had changed the socket.

So the engineer simply put the new faceplate over the old one instead of replacing it?

When mine was installed the engineer removed off the old faceplate and replaced it with the new one which is a lot more chunkier.

foggy_lad · 06-06-2014 05:55PM

AlanS181824 wrote: »

So the engineer simply put the new faceplate over the old one instead of replacing it?

When mine was installed the engineer removed off the old faceplate and replaced it with the new one which is a lot more chunkier.

The normal eircom socket is made up of the back plate and then the piece that slides onto the front that you connect the modem to, as far as I was told the whole thing was replaced but if not then there will be a problem because the back part of that socket was faulty.

Codpeas · 06-06-2014 06:35PM

Yesterday I had:

Today I get:

I don't have a proper hardwired speedtest result yet but am getting 60/19 on wireless (compares to 48/14 on wireless yesterday)

jantheman91 · 06-06-2014 06:38PM

Codpeas wrote: »

Yesterday I had:

Today I get:

I don't have a proper hardwired speedtest result yet but am getting 60/19 on wireless (compares to 48/14 on wireless yesterday)

I didn't think you could fit a house inside one of the cabinets :pac::pac:

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