Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2014 - Mod Warning post #6893

05-06-2014 09:34AM

I'm not sure would there be more room for expansion unless they bought up a load more houses. The Kop and Centenary stands have houses in close proximity..

Agueroooo · 05-06-2014 09:36AM

Will we all be doing the Can Can @11am ?

whatawaster · 05-06-2014 09:36AM

kryogen wrote: »

I come in peace, with a question. Just caught the ticker saying Deloitte studied the 2012/13 season in depth and gave the results, it had that Liverpool made a loss of £70million, the biggest amount in the league. What was the reason for that?

Champions League lifestyle, Europa League income.

High earners still on the books for much of that season, pay-offs to Dalglish and his staff, losses on transfer activity (Carroll, Aquilani, Downing - though not sure if these are included in this period), compensation to Swansea for Rodgers.

whatawaster · 05-06-2014 09:38AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

I'm not sure would there be more room for expansion unless they bought up a load more houses. The Kop and Centenary stands have houses in close proximity..

mike65 · 05-06-2014 09:38AM

kryogen wrote: »

I come in peace, with a question. Just caught the ticker saying Deloitte studied the 2012/13 season in depth and gave the results, it had that Liverpool made a loss of £70million, the biggest amount in the league. What was the reason for that?

Dickerty wrote: »

A big part from a £50M interest free loan from FSG to get rid of loans from the previous owners. And infrastructure costs relating to the new stadium.

That 50m covered the 35m spent on a hole in the ground that never got dug! :mad:

slingerz · 05-06-2014 09:39AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

I'm not sure would there be more room for expansion unless they bought up a load more houses. The Kop and Centenary stands have houses in close proximity..

Yep and you can see with the plaza aspect in the mock ups that they are trying to future proof the ground for that if you will.

Not sure if the houses around those areas are occupied in the manner that the houses around the Anfield Road area were unoccupied.

I would imagine that if necessary the club could take up those houses if needs be

Agueroooo · 05-06-2014 09:41AM

mike65 wrote: »

That 50m covered the 35m spent on a hole in the ground that never got dug! :mad:

Yep... It's was a shorter financial year as well.

Seems the club dumped all their bad finances into that term which is a good thing, and it now takes off the shackles a bit, and we are now on a very sound footing.

Don't expect anything like those results again in the near future.

BenEadir · 05-06-2014 09:46AM

Dickerty wrote: »

But we are not venture capitalists, looking to maximise our investment. We are in the business of winnign trophies. You cannot do that without a couple of World Class players. So selling by far our best player for ANY price will not improve our chances of winning in the medium term...

Agree totally with you Dickerty but football clubs don't exist in a vacuum either. Commercial reality like gravity cannot be defied. If Suarez really wants to go and Madrid (as opposed to Arsenal) really want him LFC can do SFA about it other than negotiate the best fee possible. There isn't a snowballs chance in hell Suarez would be happy to stay on if LFC refused to sell and if he's not happy to stay do you think he's going to put in the effort? All that would happen is he has a terrible start to the season, burns his bridge with the club and fans and come Xmas Madrid would be back in with a heavily discounted offer at which time LFC will have no negotiating leverage whatsoever. They will be faced with a choice between taking a crap offer from Madrid for a disgruntled player who's looked a shadow of himself for the last 4 months or keep him and win the moral victory but lose out heavily financially. There's no way FSG will be that stupid.

Players move on from every club, that's life. No one is irreplaceable. The best thing to do is get the best fee you can and re-invest it as wisely as possible to find the next two Suarez quality players.

Ben

Vinz Mesrine · 05-06-2014 09:47AM

Back to Suarez, if he does leave for 70/80m then we need to replace 30 goals a season. We won't do that with 1 player so that money would need to be spread out over 3 players all capable of 10/15 goals each. Also I would love if Jese was part of any possible deal, I would have him before any other Madrid player barring the obvious one.

Dickerty · 05-06-2014 09:47AM

Agueroooo wrote: »

Will we all be doing the Can Can @11am ?

News on the official site pending?

Never mind, I see it on Twitter - scrolling ticker on the LFC channel saying news coming at 11.
Could be the announcement of our new official Crab Juice sponsor?

NabyLadistheman · 05-06-2014 09:47AM

mike65 wrote: »

That 50m covered the 35m spent on a hole in the ground that never got dug! :mad:

Funny analogy about big Andy

Turtyturd · 05-06-2014 09:48AM

mike65 wrote: »

That 50m covered the 35m spent on a hole in the ground that never got dug! :mad:

I read that as we dug a hole to bury a 35million piece of rubbish in, and I felt a bit better.

slingerz · 05-06-2014 09:54AM

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

Back to Suarez, if he does leave for 70/80m then we need to replace 30 goals a season. We won't do that with 1 player so that money would need to be spread out over 3 players all capable of 10/15 goals each. Also I would love if Jese was part of any possible deal, I would have him before any other Madrid player barring the obvious one.

You are never going to replace Suarez but you would improve your overall unit from the proceeds in conjunction with the funds already available for the summer

mike65 · 05-06-2014 09:55AM

Apparently its a done deal - its in the can.

from http://www.bayer04.de/b04-eng/en/_md_aktuell-dt.aspx?aktuell=aktuell-5056&

Emre Cam signs for Liverpool

It's official: The Premier League runners-up FC Liverpool have submitted a bid to Bayer 04 Leverkusen for the Germany U-21 international Emre Can (20). Can has activated a release clause and is set to join Liverpool on 1 July.
“Emre Can has developed very quickly at Bayer 04 Leverkusen over the past twelve months. We wanted to keep Emre at Leverkusen but the release clause is part of his contract. So we wish him all the best and lots of success in his time in the Premier League,” declared Bayer 04 CEO Michael Schade in response to the transfer of the midfielder. Can joined Leverkusen from Bayern Munich at the start of last season.

whatawaster · 05-06-2014 09:57AM

Dickerty wrote: »

A big part from a £50M interest free loan from FSG to get rid of loans from the previous owners. And infrastructure costs relating to the new stadium.

A loan from the owners wouldn't affect our profit or loss though.

The infrastructure costs are probably a good chunk of it, as well as the consultancy and legal fees around the stadium also.

eyescreamcone · 05-06-2014 10:01AM

whatawaster wrote: »

..from Robbie Fowler 

slingerz · 05-06-2014 10:02AM

its offical

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/164418-reds-agree-emre-can-deal-in-principle

Ferris_Bueller · 05-06-2014 10:03AM

I have a bad feeling about this signing. Can't put my finger on why, but don't think Can will be a success at the club.

billymitchell · 05-06-2014 10:05AM

I'm very worried about our transfer dealings so far. what are the club playing at with only about 90 days left in the transfer window!!!

Vicxas · 05-06-2014 10:05AM

Can deal done, its on the LFC website:

CAN Deal done

whatawaster · 05-06-2014 10:07AM

I'm getting a Coutinho vibe off this one.

He's going to work out fine.

slingerz · 05-06-2014 10:09AM

Who's next I wonder?

Moreno should be favourite I'd imagine. Everything seems to be on hold with regards to Lallana/Lovren etc

klose · 05-06-2014 10:10AM

For some reason i thought of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VsK00BnSyI

Devilman40k · 05-06-2014 10:11AM

So 14m (est) gets us 2 players with first team experience, 1 who has 10-15 PL goals per season and is going to the WC and second who has CL experience and a season of Bundesliga (and is 20 years old).

Now compare that with the 15m we spend last season on Aspas and Alberto...

Hulk Hands · 05-06-2014 10:13AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

58k is about right.

I wonder is there any room for future expansion on top of that?

Surely there would have to be? I highly doubt the plan is to leave the remaining two stands as they are for another couple of decades, given that they could probably do with being replaced even now. Its hard to believe that its taken them this long to completely refurbish the main stand, given that there were calls for that as early as the mid 90's. I cant imagine how id feel as a season ticket holder sat behind one of those concrete poles for years on end

Agueroooo · 05-06-2014 10:14AM

Can ya dig it? yes we _____.

05-06-2014 10:16AM

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

I have a bad feeling about this signing. Can't put my finger on why, but don't think Can will be a success at the club.

What are you basing this feeling on?

I don't know a huge amount about this chap but I won't be writing him off before playing a game for the club.

Devilman40k · 05-06-2014 10:18AM

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Surely there would have to be? I highly doubt the plan is to leave the remaining two stands as they are for another couple of decades, given that they could probably do with being replaced even now. Its hard to believe that its taken them this long to completely refurbish the main stand, given that there were calls for that as early as the mid 90's. I cant imagine how id feel as a season ticket holder sat behind one of those concrete poles for years on end

No there wouldn't. The problem there being purchasing the houses behind the Centenary Stand. Considering how long it took to buy the properties to get the Main Stand extended , I wouldn't be holding my breath on any expansion beyond the Anfield Road end

donfers · 05-06-2014 10:19AM

We're strengthening the squad rather than the first 11 which is fair enough.

I don't agree with Rodgers assessment that we need to sign players that can go into the first eleven. Our first eleven is fine, it's the squad that is letting us down - our subs bench was pitiful for most of the season and gave us nothing.

Having said that, of course like every team we can improve on our first eleven particularly at the back.

Of the names strongly linked or signed = lambert, can, moreno, lallana, well none of them are guaranteed starters for me although moreno and lallana will probably get plenty of action if signed

MonkeyTennis · 05-06-2014 10:19AM

Its pronounced Chan. So you chant make can puns.

Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2014 - Mod Warning post #6893

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