Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2014 - Mod Warning post #6893

Turtyturd

Probably a good job Jack Sparrow is gone from Southampton or we'd be lining him up as a replacement.

Dickerty

Raif Severance wrote: »

Hmm... This is a Conundrum.

As much as I think that there is no Player that is Irreplaceable, the Problem is that there are very few Players available that are on his Level, that we can actually get.

I'll gladly accept something lower from Real, Say £50M. But they have to give us Isco + Di Maria too.

I'd want Di Maria, Benzema and £50M, and even then it would be a push. You can never replace him in a single player, but maybe you can replace 20 of his 30 goals in Benzema, and bring in top class players in other parts of the pitch as well.

Put I would prefer to keep him and invest in the team on the basis that any team with him has a chance of winning things...

Dickerty

And incidently, that Sterling sending off last night was a crock. Huge kudos to him for not reacting in the face of huge provocation. And great to see Stevie straight over talking him down, probably reminding him that he won't miss any games because of it.

Let's hope he doesn't take it out on him in the wrong way at Old Trafford!

GotTheTshirt

Dickerty wrote: »

And incidently, that Sterling sending off last night was a crock. Huge kudos to him for not reacting in the face of huge provocation. And great to see Stevie straight over talking him down, probably reminding him that he won't miss any games because of it.

Let's hope he doesn't take it out on him in the wrong way at Old Trafford!

It was ridiculous, looking at the replays I think there was a little red mist initially though. He was tripped off the ball just before that and I'm almost certain it was Valencia.
I did get a good lol over my cornflakes at this though!

Francie Barrett

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Fabregas would be my number 1 target is he's achieveable.

We're not going to outbid Abrahamovich for any player, especially considering they've got £50M from David Luiz's sale. Fabregas isn't achievable.

billymitchell

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Haven't spotted anything on this on the website yet, but an interesting move if it's real. Might be a move to get him more into the financial/marketing arena, leaving the sporting/day to day stuff up to a new recruit.

Since we're plundering Southampton, wonder if they'd approach Cortese since he's free.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ian-ayre-liverpool-fc-chief-7219079

Not sure what it means, but hopefully it means he can losen the purse strings a bit more

Morzadec

Daily Mirror saying we've dropped interest in Lallana and linking us with Markovic from Benfica instead for 25m pounds.

Not the first time he's been linked is it? Anyone know anything about him?

Doesn't really seem the same type of player as Lallana from what I can tell, and 25m seems a huge amount for such a young player with so little experience.

So probably bull

Vicxas

Francie Barrett wrote: »

We're not going to outbid Abrahamovich for any player, especially considering they've got £50M from David Luiz's sale. Fabregas isn't achievable.

Figured that money would have been used on Costa.

8-10

Francie Barrett wrote: »

We're not going to outbid Abrahamovich for any player, especially considering they've got £50M from David Luiz's sale. Fabregas isn't achievable.

More like £40m I think, just under 50m euro

Morzadec

What targets are out there if Suarez does leave?

It's not like Sturridge and LAmbert is an awful strike force, but is maybe mot quite in that top echelon.

Obviously Suarez is irreplaceable, we would never get anyone in of his standard, but who could we look at attracting that would still upgrade on Strruidge and Lambert?

Costa not being an option on the table is disappointing as he probably would've been the perfect choice.

Sanchez or Pedro, while by no means being direct replacements, are still forwards of high quality who might be out of reach now, but maybe not if we have 100m to spend. Could maybe even add Fabregas to this list of possible Barca players.

Di Maria from Madrid, again not a direct replacement, but still someone who could fit in and is a player of high quality.

In terms of strikers I'm struggling to think of anyone we could get that would be better than Sturridge though, although maybe those who watch more foreign football than me can think of some names.

I hope if Suarez does go we spend big on some of the above names, established quality who have proven it at the highest level, and not make-do with someone like Remy (who is obviously a good player, but not spectacular) or a youngster with potential.

Dickerty

None of those options replace his goals, assists and will to win. He is, without any doubt, irreplacable!

mike65

Forget Chelsea, they are on a different planet - they buy Salah who will hardly ever get a full game for 16m, they sell Luiz who is no-ones idea of a top level player for 40m. Until Liverpool can do that sort of thing we are just looking on. Staying ahead of "the rest" is the issue. Have Arsenal been strongly linked to anyone of note yet? Utd can't entice anyone, even Stootman is a January target which sounds as much as anything like a way to keep the fan base slightly more optimistic than would otherwise be the case with so many names passing them by. City will get Fernando but not much else I'd say as the players they probably will sell won't actually raise a huge amount (Richards, Wright, Rodwell etc).

I really think Suarez (slippery as he might be) has decided to stay for one year more and that unless Liverpool win the league or Champions League (!) the club will be ready to sell him on next summer to Real Madrid.

Knex*

I think if Suarez left, you'd possibly see a change in the way we attack and set up.

Would like to think that we could possibly get a player off Madrid in the ilk of Benzema, or Di Maria, but that is a long shot. However, getting the likes of, say, Griezmann, Jackson Martinez (perhaps), and Konoplyanka, or something similar, might help ease the burden a little.

Would still perhaps have money left over from Suarez sale, and add that to the money we are already looking to invest in players such as Lallana, and we might not be hit too hard.

Would be tough seeing Suarez go, and that's putting it mildly.

slingerz

If Suarez were to go I wouldnt mind Muller as a replacement tbh

Francie Barrett

You're forgetting that Chelsea have just freed up an absolute fortune of money in wages (Cole was on £200k, Lampard probably on £150k, Etoo £140k) and with the possibility of more cash coming in (Torres and Lukaku possibly out).

Chelsea will be able to sign Fabregas and Costa quite comfortably and stay within Financial Fairplay. We would not.

Kimbot

Francie Barrett wrote: »

You're forgetting that Chelsea have just freed up an absolute fortune of money in wages (Cole was on £200k, Lampard probably on £150k, Etoo £140k) and with the possibility of more cash coming in (Torres and Lukaku possibly out).

Chelsea will be able to sign Fabregas and Costa quite comfortably and stay within Financial Fairplay. We would not.

Torres to go back to madrid I would imagine.

gafferino

Planning application submitted:
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/164295-lfc-submit-stadium-planning-application

The submission of the application follows a major public consultation in which the overwhelming majority of local residents, businesses and fans backed the proposals.

The document submitted to Liverpool City Council today applies for detailed planning consent to expand the Main Stand and outline consent for the expansion of its Anfield Road stand.

The application is expected to be considered by the city's planning committee later this year.

If consent is granted, the proposals would see the capacity of a new Main Stand rise by 8,500, taking it to nearly 21,000 and overall Anfield capacity to around 54,000. The outline proposals for the Anfield Road stand provide for an increase in its capacity of around 4,800 seats, taking the total stadium capacity to 58,800.

Vicxas

gafferino wrote: »

Planning application submitted:
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/164295-lfc-submit-stadium-planning-application

The submission of the application follows a major public consultation in which the overwhelming majority of local residents, businesses and fans backed the proposals.

The document submitted to Liverpool City Council today applies for detailed planning consent to expand the Main Stand and outline consent for the expansion of its Anfield Road stand.

The application is expected to be considered by the city's planning committee later this year.

If consent is granted, the proposals would see the capacity of a new Main Stand rise by 8,500, taking it to nearly 21,000 and overall Anfield capacity to around 54,000. The outline proposals for the Anfield Road stand provide for an increase in its capacity of around 4,800 seats, taking the total stadium capacity to 58,800.

Forgive me if im wrong, but isnt 58k still a bit small compared to the Emirates and the Etihad?

BenEadir

rob316 wrote: »

He is absolutely irreplaceable and the club know it

No one is irreplaceable. If he wants to go to Madrid and they want him it's just a question of agreeing a fee. He is 27 with 3-4 years left at his peak. When Bale signed last year he was 23 with 7-8 years left at the top. For that reason Suarez won't go for a world record fee.

€100m + €12m a year in wages = €37m a year cost over a 4 year contract assuming there is very little transfer fee income for him as a soon to be 32 year old.

Lets just hope hes happy at LFC and wants to stay.

Ben

x43r0

Vicxas wrote: »

Forgive me if im wrong, but isnt 58k still a bit small compared to the Emirates and the Etihad?

Building a new stadium (i.e. emirates/etihad) is a lot easier than expanding an old one. There's only so much they can squeeze out of the current structure without a complete rebuild

mike65

Vicxas wrote: »

Forgive me if im wrong, but isnt 58k still a bit small compared to the Emirates and the Etihad?

Etihad is 47k Emirates is 60k so no - but Etihad will be expanded.

gafferino

Vicxas wrote: »

Forgive me if im wrong, but isnt 58k still a bit small compared to the Emirates and the Etihad?

As far as I remember this is the initial expansion with the possibility of extending other parts of the stadium later. I cant find the article but when the draft proposals were submitted there was something about the Kop etc discussed (I have a final figure of 64k in my head?).

Expansion to 58k is not bad and is a nearly 30% increase in capacity - as well as those much maligned corporate boxes which are a vital revenue stream.

This is great progress IMO. Consider how many promises that have been made to residents and fans for the last 20 years or so. This finally feels like the real deal and will also help revitalise the area.

58k is about right.

I wonder is there any room for future expansion on top of that?

slingerz

rarnes1 wrote: »

58k is about right.

I wonder is there any room for future expansion on top of that?

Think it is prudent to incrementally increase the capacity in line with the demand for tickets.

I do believe there is further scope for expansion as it is primarily the Anfield Road end that is being expanded.

I did read that the support structures were not in place to turn the stadium into the bowl structure that we so often see with other stadiums

gafferino

rarnes1 wrote: »

58k is about right.

I wonder is there any room for future expansion on top of that?

As I was saying above there was definitely talk of it back in Feb when the draft plans were submitted but I think the intention was always to go this route first and look at that at a later stage.

cant seem to find any reference to what im talking about but here are some articles with questions answered:

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2014/04/anfield-expansion-key-questions-answered/

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2014/04/liverpool-fc-reveal-vision-proposed-anfield-stadium-expansion/

In the design of the scheme LFC’s primary objectives are:

To increase capacity. The current capacity of Anfield is around 45,500. The design for the expansion of the Main Stand would increase capacity to circa 54,000; and design for the Anfield Road stand would further increase total capacity to circa 58,800.

Improve fan experience. As well as providing access to more tickets, fans will benefit from improved concourse areas in the Main Stand. Those attending the match as hospitality guests will enjoy a wider range of offerings. All fans will be able to maximise their trip to Anfield by using the extensive public space around the Stadium that has been designed for use as a Fan Zone.

Operational efficiency. New back of house facilities for players and staff will replace current facilities which are outdated. The redevelopment will make much needed improvements to the operational efficiency of the stadium that should benefit all visitors to Anfield.

Space outside the stadium. There will be significant areas of open public space created around the stadium. These areas have been designed to accommodate a Fan Zone and to regenerate the area immediately surrounding the stadium as well as housing the Hillsborough Memorial. In addition there will be a podium that will improve access into the stadium and create further benefits for fans, such as an additional club retail store.

Non match day activity. New open public space provides opportunities for community use including an area laid out as a pitch for informal use adjacent to Stanley Park. The space around the stadium will be available and open for the benefit of both local users and visitors.

Public consultation details:

A drop-in public exhibition for local residents and businesses is taking place on Thursday 24th April 2014 (12noon – 8pm)
A public exhibition for fans is taking place at Anfield Family Park around the Chelsea match on Sunday 27th April 2014 (10am – 2.30pm)
Comments can be submitted at the public exhibition or alternatively the Club has set up a number of ways to submit comments via the LFC website at: http://www.liverpoolfc.com/stadium
Comments are invited until the close of the consultation period at 5pm on Friday 2nd May, 2014
Any views that are submitted will be considered and where possible used to inform the planning application submission to Liverpool City Council
There will be a further opportunity to submit feedback through the formal consultation period once the application has been submitted to Liverpool City Council

kryogen

I come in peace, with a question. Just caught the ticker saying Deloitte studied the 2012/13 season in depth and gave the results, it had that Liverpool made a loss of £70million, the biggest amount in the league. What was the reason for that?

Dickerty

BenThere wrote: »

No one is irreplaceable. If he wants to go to Madrid and they want him it's just a question of agreeing a fee. He is 27 with 3-4 years left at his peak. When Bale signed last year he was 23 with 7-8 years left at the top. For that reason Suarez won't go for a world record fee.

€100m + €12m a year in wages = €37m a year cost over a 4 year contract assuming there is very little transfer fee income for him as a soon to be 32 year old.

Lets just hope hes happy at LFC and wants to stay.

Ben

But we are not venture capitalists, looking to maximise our investment. We are in the business of winnign trophies. You cannot do that without a couple of World Class players. So selling by far our best player for ANY price will not improve our chances of winning in the medium term...

gafferino

slingerz wrote: »

Think it is prudent to incrementally increase the capacity in line with the demand for tickets.

I do believe there is further scope for expansion as it is primarily the Anfield Road end that is being expanded.

I did read that the support structures were not in place to turn the stadium into the bowl structure that we so often see with other stadiums

Yeah from what I understand the kop would need to be 'significantly remodelled' to facilitate significant expansion.

They could fill in the corners at great expense for little gain (according to the articles I posted).

Dickerty

kryogen wrote: »

I come in peace, with a question. Just caught the ticker saying Deloitte studied the 2012/13 season in depth and gave the results, it had that Liverpool made a loss of £70million, the biggest amount in the league. What was the reason for that?

A big part from a £50M interest free loan from FSG to get rid of loans from the previous owners. And infrastructure costs relating to the new stadium.

slingerz

gafferino wrote: »

Yeah from what I understand the kop would need to be 'significantly remodelled' to facilitate significant expansion.

They could fill in the corners at great expense for little gain (according to the articles I posted).

And I dont believe the stands can go much higher either due to consideration of light access for local residents