Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

Larbre34 · 26-05-2014 03:40PM

Smidge wrote: »

Have you a link for that by any chance? Wouldn't mind having a listen

I cant link it but if you play back Morning Ireland on the RTE radio player from about 1hr40 mins in, you will hear it. They interviewed a mother with young kids, a woman expecting a baby around the time of the GB concerts and others.

In fairness too, there was a woman living on Distillery Road who held a party and availed of the free music!

weldoninhio · 26-05-2014 03:43PM

bumper234 wrote: »

Or croke park could stick to the agreement that was made and not make people suffer yet another 5 nights of disruption.

You mean the agreement that they would get planning permission for any more than 3 concerts within the year?? The ones they are in the process of getting planning permission for??

That agreement??

Sgt Hartman · 26-05-2014 03:46PM

I'm just gonna take the days off when Garth Brooks is playing. There's no way I want to face going through Drumcondra after work on those days.

Jamsiek · 26-05-2014 03:51PM

end of the road wrote: »

walk, kids these days could do with the exercise, mammy and daddy always driving them a few feet up the road in the 8 by 8 or whatever its called can't be a good idea

How do you know where they go to school?

bumper234 · 26-05-2014 03:54PM

Jamsiek wrote: »

How do you know where they go to school?

You should check the posting history of some posters before bothering,

Some of them....well i'll leave you to make up your own mind

Daith · 26-05-2014 03:55PM

OldGoat wrote: »

An Bord Pleanala Planning Permission Register Reference No. 0238/92 is the specific document outlining the 3 extra events per annum and the requirement for the organisers to seek a licence for any subsequent events.

Referenced here: http://www.dublincity.ie/Planning/Documents/crokeparkOneDirection.pdf

and here: http://www.dublincity.ie/YourCouncil/LocalAreaServices/CentralArea/Documents/Agenda%20April%2008.pdf (page 36)

and here: http://votemcauliffe.com/concern-raised-as-planning-doubts-hang-over-garth-brooks-concert/

Hold on. So is the agreement that they can only hold 3 concerts or that they can hold 3 concerts but anymore and they need to get more licenses?

OldGoat · 26-05-2014 03:58PM

The planning permission states that there can be 3 events and any subsequent events must be presented before the Council for approval. What pissed people off at the start of this thread was the presumption that residents don't get a say in the matter. They did get the opportunity to voice their observations to the council and now the council are making their deliberations on the matter.

Daith · 26-05-2014 04:02PM

OldGoat wrote: »

The planning permission states that there can be 3 events and any subsequent events must be presented before the Council for approval. What pissed people off at the start of this thread was the presumption that residents don't get a say in the matter. They did get the opportunity to voice their observations to the council and now the council are making their deliberations on the matter.

Very clear. Thanks.

eyeball kid · 26-05-2014 04:09PM

Prior to the elections what were the prospective councillors saying to the residents?

Santa Cruz · 26-05-2014 04:34PM

Sgt Hartman wrote: »

I'm just gonna take the days off when Garth Brooks is playing. There's no way I want to face going through Drumcondra after work on those days.

EVERYONE'SA WINNER SO

Santa Cruz · 26-05-2014 04:34PM

eyeball kid wrote: »

Prior to the elections what were the prospective councillors saying to the residents?

"Prior to the election" is the relevant phrase here

pundy · 26-05-2014 04:40PM

i was all for their cause up until i realised that they stupidly bought those houses Knowing FULL well that there'd be gigs and matches on a regular basis.

NOW they're at THIS: (SCUM)

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/young-1d-fan-has-bleach-thrown-over-him-as-he-leaves-croke-park-30305589.html

bumper234 · 26-05-2014 04:46PM

pundy wrote: »

i was all for their cause up until i realised that they stupidly bought those houses Knowing FULL well that there'd be gigs and matches on a regular basis.

NOW they're at THIS: (SCUM)

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/young-1d-fan-has-bleach-thrown-over-him-as-he-leaves-croke-park-30305589.html

And where did this happen?

pundy · 26-05-2014 04:47PM

bumper234 wrote: »

And where did this happen?

it came out of the window of a house beside croke park...

Daith · 26-05-2014 04:49PM

pundy wrote: »

it came out of the window of a house beside croke park...

They were walking down towards Abbey St. It doesn't say where the house was.

bumper234 · 26-05-2014 04:49PM

pundy wrote: »

it came out of the window of a house beside croke park...

Where does it say that? It says they were walking towards Abbey street, you aware of how many streets they would have had to walk to get from Croke park to Abbey street?

pundy · 26-05-2014 04:54PM

bumper234 wrote: »

Where does it say that? It says they were walking towards Abbey street, you aware of how many streets they would have had to walk to get from Croke park to Abbey street?

it clearly says it in the first sentence "as they left croke park"

A young One Direction fan had a lucky escape when a stranger threw bleach at him from an overhead window as he left Croke Park.

Jamsiek · 26-05-2014 04:55PM

pundy wrote: »

i was all for their cause up until i realised that they stupidly bought those houses Knowing FULL well that there'd be gigs and matches on a regular basis.

NOW they're at THIS: (SCUM)

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/young-1d-fan-has-bleach-thrown-over-him-as-he-leaves-croke-park-30305589.html

Oh yes, all the residents are doing that :rolleyes:

Daith · 26-05-2014 04:56PM

pundy wrote: »

it clearly says it in the first sentence "as they left croke park"

A young One Direction fan had a lucky escape when a stranger threw bleach at him from an overhead window as he left Croke Park.

Following the directions of a guard towards Abbey St.....It still doesn't say where it happened only that he left Croke Park and headed towards Abbey St.

bumper234 · 26-05-2014 04:57PM

pundy wrote: »

it clearly says it in the first sentence "as they left croke park"

A young One Direction fan had a lucky escape when a stranger threw bleach at him from an overhead window as he left Croke Park.

So was it a street attached to Croke park? Was it 3 streets away? 6 streets away? 10 streets away?

pundy · 26-05-2014 04:58PM

Daith wrote: »

Following the directions of a guard towards Abbey St.....It still doesn't say where it happened only that he left Croke Park and headed towards Abbey St.

oh... so this is the thread you's are all hanging around in then.

look, i was just pointing towards the news-piece.

couldnt care less - sure the concerts will go ahead anyway.

plus, any of ye that live there, should have known there was always going to be events being put on there. dopes.hahaha

bumper234 · 26-05-2014 04:59PM

pundy wrote: »

oh... so this is the thread you's are all hanging around in then.

look, i was just pointing towards the news-piece.

couldnt care less - sure the concerts will go ahead anyway.

plus, any of ye that live there, should have known there was always going to be events being put on there. dopes.hahaha

Yeah, great comeback :rolleyes:

pundy · 26-05-2014 05:00PM

Daith wrote: »

Following the directions of a guard towards Abbey St.....It still doesn't say where it happened only that he left Croke Park and headed towards Abbey St.

so you are trying to read a newspaper article based on the missing text, rather than the actual text that's in it?
weird.

Daith · 26-05-2014 05:01PM

pundy wrote: »

so you are trying to read a newspaper article based on the missing text, rather than the actual text that's in it?
weird.

No that's what you are doing.....

Skylinehead · 26-05-2014 05:01PM

pundy wrote: »

i was all for their cause up until i realised that they stupidly bought those houses Knowing FULL well that there'd be gigs and matches on a regular basis.

NOW they're at THIS: (SCUM)

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/young-1d-fan-has-bleach-thrown-over-him-as-he-leaves-croke-park-30305589.html

So what about the people that were already there?

miss no stars · 26-05-2014 05:11PM

bumper234 wrote: »

Or croke park could stick to the agreement that was made and not make people suffer yet another 5 nights of disruption.

Yeah but to be fair bussing people there would be a good idea to alleviate the cars issue even for the allowed 3 events plus big matches.

https://maps.google.ie/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=Dublin+GAA+clubs&fb=1&gl=ie&hq=GAA+clubs&hnear=0x48670e80ea27ac2f:0xa00c7a9973171a0,Dublin&ei=D2aDU9OEOuXC7AaLoIGICw&ved=0CLcBELYD

A quick search for Dublin GAA clubs. I'm sure there are many, many more than are shown there. Pick 6 or so grounds and run shuttle busses from each as well as shuttle busses from Busaras and Heuston and include something like €5 for it in the ticket price. When buying the tickets select the parking/public transport pickup desired. If parking and a shuttle bus service is already included in the price of the ticket, the prospect of sitting in traffic for an age just to get within walking distance of it isn't so attractive. Park and ride much easier.

Daith · 26-05-2014 05:15PM

miss no stars wrote: »

Yeah but to be fair bussing people there would be a good idea to alleviate the cars issue even for the allowed 3 events plus big matches.

See this is what is confusing me. People keep saying they're only allowed 3 events but the link OldGoat posted said they're allowed 3 events and can apply to have more. So they're breaking no agreement other than the odd Irish thing of selling tickets to a concert before they get permission.

miss no stars · 26-05-2014 05:17PM

Daith wrote: »

See this is what is confusing me. People keep saying they're only allowed 3 events but the link OldGoat posted said they're allowed 3 events and can apply to have more. So they're breaking no agreement other than the odd Irish thing of selling tickets to a concert before they get permission.

The agreement is three events and they may apply to have more than that. Residents are saying it's taking the absolute pee having 3 in a row and 6 weeks later having 5 in a row. And yeah, they're selling tickets to a concert that doesn't yet have permission to go ahead :rolleyes:

Daith · 26-05-2014 05:23PM

miss no stars wrote: »

The agreement is three events and they may apply to have more than that. Residents are saying it's taking the absolute pee having 3 in a row and 6 weeks later having 5 in a row.

Right so they aren't breaking any agreement and it's up to the Council to decide that.

miss no stars wrote: »

And yeah, they're selling tickets to a concert that doesn't yet have permission to go ahead :rolleyes:

Well that's an Irish thing. Not just about Croke Park.

miss no stars · 26-05-2014 05:26PM

Daith wrote: »

Right so they aren't breaking any agreement.

Correct, just taking the pee.

It's not so much of an issue in other places worldwide where they put in place proper transport to and from events and have actual traffic management plans and where people aren't such disgusting slobs as the people who pee through people's hall doors and ****e on their doorsteps.

But GAA like to pretend they aren't hugely disrupting the local area, don't make any real accommodations to deal with the issues around having such a huge number converging on a small residential area and generally give 2 fingers to the residents. That's why they're taking the pee.

Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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