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Convicted child killer canvassing for sinn fein[Mod warning-First Post]

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  • #242
    Spring Onion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭Spring Onion


    Either the money tree or tax bombs is all I can see thus far.


  • #243
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,365 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Nodin wrote: »
    Sorry


    You don't have to apologise.


    Again calling all shinners:
    ok I'll bite - what do you propose to replace "the establishment" with? Are people's lives going to be better afterwards?

    Where are you going to get the money from?


  • #244
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Thread has got going again...Liveline must be over. :rolleyes:


  • #245
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    what do you propose to replace "the establishment" with? Are people's lives going to be better afterwards?

    Where are you going to get the money from?

    Why are you asking me these questions?


  • #246
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    I love this language from Sinn Féin. It's so demented and simply untrue. Let's call them what they were - drug dealing, knee capping, murderous and psychotic criminals.

    Some still in business today.
    Nodin wrote: »
    Evidence?
    Nodin wrote: »
    Sorry, but could you get back to me on this?
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=90501072&postcount=206

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2313637/Two-IRA-gangsters-shot-cage-fighter-cremated-van-buried-Cornish-farmer-40-000-drugs-row.html
    Two gangland IRA drug dealers were shot dead and their bodies burned in a van and buried on a Cornish farm, an inquest heard.
    The inquest heard the two victims worked for an IRA gang that ran Liverpool’s illegal drugs trade and Haigh and Stone owed them £40,000.

    In before the usual ZOMG Dailyfail blah blah blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


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  • #247
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,365 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    Why are you asking me these questions?

    Is there any shinner prepared OR ABLE to answer these questions?

    What do you propose to replace "the establishment" with?

    Are peoples lives going to be better afterwards?

    Where are you going to get the money from?


  • #248
    Beano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    Nodin wrote: »
    Sorry, but could you get back to me on this?
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=90501072&postcount=206

    I think it is telling that you havent asked for evidence of
    knee capping, murderous and psychotic criminals


  • #249
    FTA69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    An IRA drugs gang in 2011 Liverpool?

    If you believe a word of this you're a fool.


  • #250
    Birroc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭Birroc


    Beano wrote: »
    I think it is telling that you havent asked for evidence of
    knee capping, murderous and psychotic criminals

    OK well I did not mention above but I would also like to know how SF are going to balance the books when the roll back on the austerity measures. Its always about the economy come General Election time, the local elections are just filler.


  • #251
    bumper234
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    FTA69 wrote: »
    An IRA drugs gang in 2011 Liverpool?

    If you believe a word of this you're a fool.

    Sure ;)


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  • #252
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    bumper234 wrote: »
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2313637/Two-IRA-gangsters-shot-cage-.......................hhhhhhhhh

    These lads couldn't have been in the IRA, as it had been disbanded by the time of the incident in question.

    The BBC mentions no such link.....
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-17024000

    The claim of IRA membership comes from one of the men convicted of killing them......

    "Both had blamed the other for the killing of the two men, whom Haigh claimed worked for an IRA gang that "ran" Liverpool's drugs trade."

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/cage-fighter-found-guilty-of-murder-683948#ixzz32SCl0syi
    Follow us: @DailyMirror on Twitter | DailyMirror on Facebook

    I'd suggest trying again.


  • #253
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    You don't have to apologise.


    Why are you making claims you can't back up?


  • #254
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Beano wrote: »
    I think it is telling that you havent asked for evidence of
    knee capping, murderous and psychotic criminals


    Knee capping went on, the "murderous..." bit is vague blather and hyperbole.


  • #255
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Nodin wrote: »
    These lads couldn't have been in the IRA, as it had been disbanded by the time of the incident in question.

    The BBC mentions no such link.....
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-17024000

    The claim of IRA membership comes from one of the men convicted of killing them......

    "Both had blamed the other for the killing of the two men, whom Haigh claimed worked for an IRA gang that "ran" Liverpool's drugs trade."

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/cage-fighter-found-guilty-of-murder-683948#ixzz32SCl0syi
    Follow us: @DailyMirror on Twitter | DailyMirror on Facebook

    I'd suggest trying again.

    And i am the naive one :rolleyes:


  • #256
    FTA69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Sure ;)

    Yeah, out of the tens of thousands of years served in jail by the Provisionals; how many of them were drug related? The IRA were pretty rabidly anti-drugs and I doubt they would have maintained any support in their communities if they were involved in that carry on. There's plenty of sh*t you could throw at them without making stuff up.

    A mixed race boxer in Liverpool is actually an IRA drug dealer? Hilarious altogether. You haven't a clue lad.


  • #257
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Nodin wrote: »
    Knee capping went on, the "murderous..." bit is vague blather and hyperbole.

    Are you trying to claim they never committed any murders? :eek:


  • #258
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    FTA69 wrote: »
    Yeah, out of the tens of thousands of years served in jail by the Provisionals; how many of them were drug related? The IRA were pretty rabidly anti-drugs and I doubt they would have maintained any support in their communities if they were involved in that carry on. There's plenty of sh*t you could throw at them without making stuff up.

    A mixed race boxer in Liverpool is actually an IRA drug dealer? Hilarious altogether. You haven't a clue lad.

    sure.

    Lets get back on topic about the child killer canvassing for a sinn fein candidate shall we ;)


  • #259
    Beano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    Birroc wrote: »
    OK well I did not mention above but I would also like to know how SF are going to balance the books when the roll back on the austerity measures. Its always about the economy come General Election time, the local elections are just filler.

    What does that have to do with what i posted?


  • #260
    DamagedTrax
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    Birroc wrote: »
    OK well I did not mention above but I would also like to know how SF are going to balance the books when the roll back on the austerity measures. Its always about the economy come General Election time, the local elections are just filler.

    im not a shinner (and wont be voting for them) but after the recent tv debates i really would like to see the alternative budget they proposed. i think brian hayes is a disgusting individual and his behaviour in the debates really made me feel he wanted certain topics quashed.

    maybe the shinners have a better answer, show the people and let us decide.


  • #261
    Beano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Are you trying to claim they never committed any murders? :eek:

    maybe they only vaguely killed people. Sorta like The Princess Bride where one of the characters was only mostly dead.


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  • #262
    sabat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭sabat


    It's funny that Sinn Féin supporters constantly bring up the name of Nelson Mandela to support their argument that former terrorists can be part of the political process when in reality it merely demonstrates the danger of voting in people with serious question marks over their personal morality-maybe not Mandela himself but certainly his cohorts. Have the ANC done a good job in governing South Africa? Is life better for the average person there-black or white? Has corruption increased? How about the economy in general-how's that doing?
    The difference between Gerry Adams and Nelson Mandela is that Adams sought to impose an impossible, abstract concept (united Ireland) upon the majority using violence whereas Mandela sought a tangible, achievable goal (racial equality) and that is why the IRA failed but the ANC succeeded.


  • #263
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,373 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    seamus wrote: »
    I wonder if Larry Murphy were canvassing for Sinn Fein, would people be so quick to defend him. After all, he's served his time, he's old news.

    I do love though that outrage at a convicted and unrepentant murderer is considered anti-SF biase by Shinners. Talking out both sides of your mouths much?
    SF have no problem with convicted child killers, but making racist comments on Facebook crosses the line for them.

    The mind boggles.
    A SINN Fein election candidate has resigned from the party after admitting making anti-Traveller remarks on Facebook three years ago.


  • #264
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    bumper234 wrote: »
    sure.

    Lets get back on topic about the child killer canvassing for a sinn fein candidate shall we ;)

    Exactly...what are you gonna do about it?
    Never vote for SF? I'm sure they are gutted about that...'the one that got away'. :)


  • #265
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Exactly...what are you gonna do about it?
    Never vote for SF? I'm sure they are gutted about that...'the one that got away'. :)

    I think that headline will make it more than "one" that got away ;)


  • #266
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    bumper234 wrote: »
    And i am the naive one :rolleyes:

    Sorry, do you know something three governments and an international commission don't?
    bumper234 wrote: »
    Lets get back on topic about the child killer canvassing for a sinn fein candidate shall we

    Because your laughable nonsense has been discredited and jaysus forbid we dwell on that.


  • #267
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,365 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

    What do you propose to replace "the establishment" with?

    Are people's lives going to be better afterwards?

    Where are you going to get the money from?



    Still waiting for an answer from the shinners. Says it all really.


  • #268
    Birroc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭Birroc


    DamagedTrax wrote: »
    im not a shinner (and wont be voting for them) but after the recent tv debates i really would like to see the alternative budget they proposed. i think brian hayes is a disgusting individual and his behaviour in the debates really made me feel he wanted certain topics quashed.

    maybe the shinners have a better answer, show the people and let us decide.

    Indeed.

    DOES ANYONE IN SINN FEIN EVERY ANSWER ANYTHING ABOUT THEIR ECONOMIC POLICY OR LACK THEREOF?


  • #269
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    bumper234 wrote: »
    I think that headline will make it more than "one" that got away ;)

    There is a cohort who will never vote for SF, a cohort who will not educate themselves and who will pretend to be politically sophisticated while alternating between FF and FG. Sooner that generation has died out the sooner we might get a real republic and a united island, the only two things that can offer all round stability.


  • #270
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    There is a cohort who will never vote for SF, a cohort who will not educate themselves and who will pretend to be politically sophisticated while alternating between FF and FG. Sooner that generation has died out the sooner we might get a real republic and a united island, the only two things that can offer all round stability.

    Have never voted for FG or FF, As long as SF have child killers canvassing for them then they will never be in power.


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  • #271
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Still waiting for an answer from the shinners. Says it all really.

    Why is it you made a specific claim back here, but have refused to back it up?
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=90501072&postcount=206


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