Convicted child killer canvassing for sinn fein[Mod warning-First Post]

bumper234

And then people wonder why sinn fein care always labeled with the terrorist brush :rolleyes:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/cowardly-mountbatten-murderer-campaigns-for-sinn-fein-30294914.html

SINN Fein leader Gerry Adams has defended the involvement of Lord Louis Mountbatten's murderer in Sinn Fein's election campaign. Thomas McMahon – the only person convicted for the horrific IRA attack in 1979 that also killed two children – has been canvassing for MEP hopeful Matt Carthy.

Speaking to the Irish Independent, Mr Martin said: "Like a lot of people, I have watched with growing concern as Sinn Fein seeks to minimise and justify some of the most horrific and cruel episodes of their terror campaign.

"But even in this context, Mr Adams's defence of a colleague who killed a 14- and a 15-year-old child is particularly shocking."

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comongethappy

Meh ...... Their supporters seem to care little for SFs terrorist associations

Red Pepper

Just read that. The Mountbatten murder always sickened me. It was worse than cowardly.

Have Sinn Féin no common sense? They need to remove the obvious links to terrorism (including their liar of a leader) if they are going to make solid progress. Sure they will get the benefits of a large protest vote at this election but they will not sustain it unless they cop on.

stimpson

Jesus. The ruling classes are shitting themselves at the thoughts of the Shinners doing well.

Big Nasty

The Ra are fvckin scumbags and the Shinners are nothing but the political wing of the Ra. A political wing at that with not a fvcking clue! :mad:

glued

People encouraged members of the IRA to disarm and move into politics and now you want to shun them for doing that?

Phoebas

glued wrote: »

People encouraged members of the IRA to disarm and move into politics and now you want to shun them for doing that?

We shouldn't shun murderers just because they havent murdered recently?

kneemos

stimpson wrote: »

Jesus. The ruling classes are shitting themselves at the thoughts of the Shinners doing well.

Personally I wouldn't want psychotic killers or their leaders anywhere near Government.

Alias G

bumper234 wrote: »

And then people wonder why sinn fein care always labeled with the terrorist brush :rolleyes:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/cowardly-mountbatten-murderer-campaigns-for-sinn-fein-30294914.html

The indo really are pushing their anti sinn fein agenda a bit much at this stage. People can see right through it. Won't be voting for the shinners myself, but nearly tempted to in response to the shameless bias of the indo dragging up any old story with which to bash them. We've been in a peace process for 20 years FFS.

auldgranny

A person responsible for the death of
two children is scum. A person who never apologised for it is worse than scum.

Big Nasty

Look at their economic policies ffs! No austerity, no water charges, no property tax, etc. Where do they propose the government get the money needed to run the country and pay back our debts?

Also the main reason they're doing well is their badly thought out policies appeal to the red top readers as does their tiofchaidh ar la idealism.

Thick cvnts! :mad:

stimpson

kneemos wrote: »

Personally I wouldn't want psychotic killers or their leaders anywhere near Government.

All the political parties have blood on their hands if you go back far enough.

vitani

Big Nasty wrote: »

Look at their economic policies ffs! No austerity, no water charges, no property tax, etc. Where do they propose the government get the money needed to run the country and pay back our debts?

The Northern Bank?

Reformed Character

I fail to see why people are surprised by this.
McMahon murdered two kids in cold blood, he has never shown an ounce of remorse, and for this he is a republican hero.
Had he apologised or shown some element of remorse I would be far less annoyed as I do believe we need to move on.

Gatling

vitani wrote: »

The Northern Bank?

Bono ?

The lad from one direction?

wp_rathead

glued wrote: »

People encouraged members of the IRA to disarm and move into politics and now you want to shun them for doing that?

They seem to be in a juggling act of wanting to keep the hardcore republican vote but also appeal to the moderates who aren't bothered with NI. Having these kinda of people involved with the SF party is the reason I (im guessing many more) will not be voting for them..

Phoebas

stimpson wrote: »

All the political parties have blood on their hands if you go back far enough.

Were talking here about an individual with blood on his hands

Pumpkinseeds

Sinn Fein have always been scum, they've just done a very good PR job. I would never vote for them, it's a matter of principal. A vote for Sinn Fein is an approval of their past behaviour in my opinion.

FTA69

Red Pepper wrote: »

Just read that. The Mountbatten murder always sickened me. It was worse than cowardly.

Have Sinn Féin no common sense? They need to remove the obvious links to terrorism (including their liar of a leader) if they are going to make solid progress.

They seem to be making solid progress regardless to be honest.

McMahon, like thousands of others in Ireland, is an ex-combatant in a conflict that has been over for 17 years. Him, and other Republicans for that matter, weren't the only people involved in that particular conflict either.

Akrasia

auldgranny wrote: »

A person responsible for the death of
two children is scum. A person who never apologised for it is worse than scum.

Nelson Mandella was head of a terrorist organisation that planted bombs in public places and killed many men women and children

The current ruling parties FF and FG were involved in the irish civil war where hundreds of innocent people were killed...

Nothing is to be gained from dwelling in past conflicts. The peace process necessarily involves putting the past behind us and moving forward.

6541

Like Seriously what is the problem with the Indo, I am not that political, but after the Arrest of Sein Fein Leader Gerry Adams, I will be voting all Sinn Fein and nobody else.

Itsdacraic

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Sinn Fein have always been scum, they've just done a very good PR job. I would never vote for them, it's a matter of principal. A vote for Sinn Fein is an approval of their past behaviour in my opinion.

So you don't vote for Fianna Fail or Fine Gael either?

Red Pepper

Alias G wrote: »

The indo really are pushing their anti sinn fein agenda a bit much at this stage. People can see right through it. Won't be voting for the shinners myself, but nearly tempted to in response to the shameless bias of the indo dragging up any old story with which to bash them. We've been in a peace process for 20 years FFS.

Hold on chief, he is campaigning for SF in this election...it is not an old story

Alias G

Red Pepper wrote: »

Hold on chief, he is campaigning for SF in this election...it is not an old story

I don't know anything about the guy but I presume he worked on behalf of sinn fein for decades. The indo are clearly running this story now to damage the party's campaign. If they are not printing sensationalist tabloid rubbish then they are thumping their anti shinner agenda.

Banjo String

Jeez.

Mudslinging didn't stick to Adams. QUICK LADS TARGET SOMEONE ELSE.

The establishment are shıtting themselves. I find it hysterical

Tazz T

Big Nasty wrote: »

Look at their economic policies ffs! No austerity, no water charges, no property tax, etc. Where do they propose the government get the money needed to run the country and pay back our debts?

Also the main reason they're doing well is their badly thought out policies appeal to the red top readers as does their tiofchaidh ar la idealism.

Thick cvnts! :mad:

Maybe that money will come from you. Are you a bondholder?

endacl

comongethappy wrote: »

Meh ...... Their supporters seem to care little for SFs terrorist associations

Indeed. Their die hard blow hards won't care, as they never have. One would hope that those who have been taken in by their bull5hit in recent years might take a long hard look at this, McConville, and other 'highlights' from SF/Provo's illustrious past.

If nobody represents your views, then a vote for 'nobody' would be a far more valid choice than a vote for this shower. If the parties don't represent you, take a look at some independants. There are some good people on there.

seamus

I wonder if Larry Murphy were canvassing for Sinn Fein, would people be so quick to defend him. After all, he's served his time, he's old news.

I do love though that outrage at a convicted and unrepentant murderer is considered anti-SF biase by Shinners. Talking out both sides of your mouths much?

shruikan2553

I don't side with any political party but I'm getting tired of all this bitching about sinn fein. This sort of crap just makes it look like they can't argue against their policies so we'll just call them terrorists. Why arent we getting a story about how someone in FF, FG or Lab every week or have they all been perfect the past 20 years?

bumper234

Alias G wrote: »

I don't know anything about the guy but I presume he worked on behalf of sinn fein for decades. The indo are clearly running this story now to damage the party's campaign. If they are not printing sensationalist tabloid rubbish then they are thumping their anti shinner agenda.

I think "the party" are doing a perfectly good job of that themselves by having this man canvass on behalf of one of their members.

endacl

6541 wrote: »

Like Seriously what is the problem with the Indo, I am not that political, but after the Arrest of Sein Fein Leader Gerry Adams, I will be voting all Sinn Fein and nobody else.

Because you don't approve of the indo?
Nice mature decision making there, chief!

The One Doctor

Seems to me that none of the parties have a coherent election message. The Socialists whinge about 'water tax' (eh?), compulsory health insurance (not for another 5 years) and rents (not under the govt's control). Labours' message is 'do whatever our masters say, we're just the lapdogs'. SF's message is much the same as the Socialists with added car bombs, and FF's message is 'we'll be better than the the current govt despite our terrible track record'.

As much as I hate to admit it and with the minor scandals aside, FG hasn't done anything too terrible considering the debt and budget deficits.

Frankly, I hate all political parties but I don't want to waste my vote. So I'll probably vote for an independant.

Lou.m

stimpson wrote: »

All the political parties have blood on their hands if you go back far enough.

Yes if you go back 80 yrs.None of those people are living. There are living members of SF WHO HAVE KILLED PEOPLE.

That does something to human beings. If you can murder you can do anything murderers have no moral boundaries they have broken them.

The part has only itself to blame for accusations of terrorism of it wanted to get rid of theses people it would change that. They won't because they are at the hear of SF.

kneemos

stimpson wrote: »

All the political parties have blood on their hands if you go back far enough.

Depends on their cause and methods I suppose.

anncoates

It's not against the law. It's up to voters to make their own moral decision on the matter.

I know I always have and will.

folan

anncoates wrote: »

It's not against the law. It's up to voters to make their own moral decision on the matter.

I know I always have and will.

killing? or killers running for office? one is, the other should be.

vitani

shruikan2553 wrote: »

I don't side with any political party but I'm getting tired of all this bitching about sinn fein. This sort of crap just makes it look like they can't argue against their policies so we'll just call them terrorists. Why arent we getting a story about how someone in FF, FG or Lab every week or have they all been perfect the past 20 years?

Ah, here. I'm far from perfect myself but I'm a long way away from killing somebody.

Personally, my biggest issue with SF though is that their policies, particularly their economic policies, don't make sense.

Alias G

bumper234 wrote: »

I think "the party" are doing a perfectly good job of that themselves by having this man canvass on behalf of one of their members.

The polls indicate quite differently. Which is seeing the indo attacks become more frequent and desperate.

ellavin

My vote will always be sinn fein!

ellavin

My vote will always be sinn fein!

bumper234

Alias G wrote: »

The polls indicate quite differently. Which is seeing the indo attacks become more frequent and desperate.

So you think that having this convicted child killer canvassing on behalf of the party is a good thing then?

Banjo String

Lord Mountbattens family have their fair share of innocent children's blood on their hands also, lest we forget.

The Irish people overwhelmingly voted to forget the past, as did the unionist community. Didn't the queen welcome the Irish with open arms (including McGuinness) only a matter of weeks ago?

Shameful the Indo don't accept the outcome of the GFA.

Time to move on.

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller

Six 17-year-old boys were killed on Bloody Sunday.

Every time British citizens vote, they are supporting child killers.

Based on your criteria at least.

bumper234

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

Six 17-year-old boys were killed on Bloody Sunday.

Every time British citizens vote, they are supporting child killers.

Based on your criteria at least.

Could you please name one BA soldier who was involved in the Bloody Sunday murders canvassing for a British political party?

Alias G

bumper234 wrote: »

So you think that having this convicted child killer canvassing on behalf of the party is a good thing then?

Where did I say that. Your sounding as sensationalist as the indo.

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller

bumper234 wrote: »

Could you please name one BA soldier who was involved in the Bloody Sunday murders canvassing for a British political party?

Can you quote were I said one of them was.

endacl

ellavin wrote: »

My vote will always be sinn fein!

ellavin wrote: »

My vote will always be sinn fein!

Early and often, eh?

How appropriate.

:rolleyes:

kneemos

ellavin wrote: »

My vote will always be sinn fein!

Vote early and often.

The Backwards Man

I have never voted SF in my life but all this mudslinging means I'll vote for them now for the first time ever, even though I have been a secret supporter of their murderous cousins all my life and was too cowardly to come straight out and say it before.



Did I do it right?

anncoates

folan wrote: »

killing? or killers running for office? one is, the other should be.

I despise Sinn Fen and never have or will vote for them.

If they want a convicted killer canvassing for them, a sizable amount of people won't care so sadly our only recourse is moral objection.

Amalgam

kneemos wrote: »

Personally I wouldn't want psychotic killers or their leaders anywhere near Government.

There's been a few politicians with sociopathic issues, with a very obvious inability to empathise, other than for themselves, 'in charge', over the last few years.. Not exclusive to terrorist organisations.