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Eurovision Song Contest 2014

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    #5252
    thelad95
    Registered Users Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    I have a horrible feeling that if we went to internal selection it would just be Linda Martin and Louis Walsh et al who would be hand-picking a song....


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    #5253
    NipNip
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 656 ✭✭✭NipNip


    thelad95 wrote: »
    I have a horrible feeling that if we went to internal selection it would just be Linda Martin and Louis Walsh et al who would be hand-picking a song....

    Oh Good God - Linda Martin needs to be removed entirely from it. She's stuck in a time warp of about 15 to 20 years ago. She hasn't a clue.


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    #5254
    gavmcg92
    Registered Users Posts: 5,316 ✭✭✭gavmcg92


    NipNip wrote: »
    Oh Good God - Linda Martin needs to be removed entirely from it. She's stuck in a time warp of about 15 to 20 years ago. She hasn't a clue.

    No she's not! She's hip and down with the kids Yo! :pac::D

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZYQluJW-dM


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    #5255
    yerwanthere123
    Registered Users, Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,375 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    NipNip wrote: »
    Oh Good God - Linda Martin needs to be removed entirely from it. She's stuck in a time warp of about 15 to 20 years ago. She hasn't a clue.

    Sure remember on the Late Late she was saying Ireland should go straight through every year and all those pesky Eastern European countries should be the only ones who have to qualify :eek:


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    #5256
    Grandeeod
    Registered Users Posts: 12,138 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    gavmcg92 wrote: »
    No she's not! She's hip and down with the kids Yo! :pac::D

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZYQluJW-dM

    Please don't do that again.


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    #5257
    Fluorescence
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 8,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fluorescence


    Jesus can we take Johnny out of that Eurovision museum and leave Linda there permanently not singing/moving? :P


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    #5258
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Linda Martin's performance of Get Lucky was the absolute zenith of Irish music. I don't know why we even try anymore, nothing will ever beat it!


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    #5259
    Fluorescence
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 8,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fluorescence


    So much cringe

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsSKir54ZWs


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    #5260
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users Posts: 16,504 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    December2012 wrote: »
    Ryan Tubridy on the radio now is just saying himself that the song selection process next year has to change and is wondering if "they" will keep it in the Late Late Show current format.

    I hope not, it should never have been there in the first place.


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    #5261
    gavmcg92
    Registered Users Posts: 5,316 ✭✭✭gavmcg92


    Conchita is getting so much hate on the video of her performance in the final :(:mad: I really hate the people that live on this world sometimes.


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    #5262
    Deco99
    Registered Users Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭Deco99


    gavmcg92 wrote: »
    Conchita is getting so much hate on the video of her performance in the final :(:mad: I really hate the people that live on this world sometimes.

    is that ironic???


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    #5263
    yerwanthere123
    Registered Users, Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,375 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    gavmcg92 wrote: »
    Conchita is getting so much hate on the video of her performance in the final :(:mad: I really hate the people that live on this world sometimes.

    Most of that can be put down to bitterness over their favourite not winning. It doesn't really matter anyway, Conchita won :)

    Still very surprised that Austria won the jury vote as well though.


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    #5264
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users Posts: 20,935 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Deco99 wrote: »
    is that ironic???
    it's double something alright!


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    #5265
    youreadthat
    Registered Users Posts: 761 ✭✭✭youreadthat


    One of the worst eurovisions ever.


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    #5266
    thelad95
    Registered Users Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    youreadthat wrote: »
    One of the worst eurovisions ever.

    That's unfair to be honest. The standard this year was fantastic and the production values brought to the show from the Danish broadcaster were the best in living memory, if ever.

    One thing I will say that was a trend of having subliminal political messages in songs.

    Malta's was a tribute to soldiers who never make it home.

    Icelands was about 'Let's do away with prejudice'

    Hungary's was about domestic abuse.

    and Conchita was conchita.

    All of the above were fantastic songs about worthy causes but is the Eurovision the right place for it?


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    #5267
    Spring Onion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭Spring Onion


    For the 1st time ever I have found myself listening to songs after the Eurovision. The 2 I liked are
    Austria - Rise like a phoenix
    Ukraine - Tick tock


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    #5268
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,441 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    thelad95 wrote: »
    I have a horrible feeling that if we went to internal selection it would just be Linda Martin and Louis Walsh et al who would be hand-picking a song....

    I know people will disagree but I'd personally love to see it happen.

    Louis Walsh has brought the most Eurovision success to Ireland, both long and short term. People can criticize this year but when Louis got involved a few years back and sent Jedward, we achieved our best rankings. In four years, he's managed to get us to the finals three times.

    If we ever want to achieve anything in Eurovision, then the team behind the act are as important as the act themselves. If there's someone else that could take the reigns with his experience, fair enough. But this romantic notion that we should dump the experienced heads and just try to send a nice unknown with a nice song is foolish.

    Personally, I'd rather hand Louis the money that would be saved through avoiding a long selection process, ask him to get a well known act, a well known songwriter and go nuts. No "Orisih" dancing and symbolism, no jumping through hoops impressing an audience who don't watch the competition, just whoever Louis thinks can put on the best performance with the best song, backed up by someone with multiple hits internationally.


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    #5269
    XxMCRxBabyxX
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    Apparently Jedward would love to do Eurovision again.

    I'm not 100% against this though I imagine the usual moaning will come out if that did happen. I find it quite surprising how against Jedward the Irish are considering that they did alright for us (and funilly enough of the two negative comments in that link, one was indeed Irish). I don't think that it'll happen though. I'm not sure if they're that good and we might want to try find some different acts.


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    #5270
    gavmcg92
    Registered Users Posts: 5,316 ✭✭✭gavmcg92


    XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »
    Apparently Jedward would love to do Eurovision again.

    I'm not 100% against this though I imagine the usual moaning will come out if that did happen. I find it quite surprising how against Jedward the Irish are considering that they did alright for us (and funilly enough of the two negative comments in that link, one was indeed Irish). I don't think that it'll happen though. I'm not sure if they're that good and we might want to try find some different acts.

    I'm not overly against them going but I get the impression that the appeal has worn off with them. Also, what we've learned from the past few years is that the winning act needs to have great vocals. Sending a well stage memorable song will only get you so far.


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    #5271
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,289 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    NipNip wrote: »
    It wasn't personal! I'm sure they were intelligent enough to figure that much out. Peaceful 'protesting' or expression of dissatisfaction with hostile behaviour and/or archaic brutal discrimination is fair game in my view. You have seen the youtube clip of what Russian military did to two peaceful protesters from Pussy Riot? If not, here you go:

    WARNING: this video is extremely graphic and probably upsetting.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/pussy-riot-sochi-1324316-Feb2014/

    I heard that Marty Whelan called the booing "shameful". He's an idiot.

    The crowd were booing because of Russia's ongoing takeover of Ukraine and their disgraceful homophobic anti-gay laws, not the singers.


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    #5272
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users Posts: 16,504 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »
    Apparently Jedward would love to do Eurovision again.

    I'm not 100% against this though I imagine the usual moaning will come out if that did happen. I find it quite surprising how against Jedward the Irish are considering that they did alright for us (and funilly enough of the two negative comments in that link, one was indeed Irish). I don't think that it'll happen though. I'm not sure if they're that good and we might want to try find some different acts.

    There is only so long that grown men, which is what they are now (even if they still look 12) can go around acting like 10 year olds.


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    #5273
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    I heard that Marty Whelan called the booing "shameful". He's an idiot.

    The crowd were booing because of Russia's ongoing takeover of Ukraine and their disgraceful homophobic anti-gay laws, not the singers.

    They stopped booing later on. While people are entitled to protest, at whom do you protest. Is a talent show the place to do that? You don't know the girls opinions of Putin and his administration do they honestly be deserved to be booed?

    I am not sure if the winning song won because it was good song or just a novelty? It might be 50/50.


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    #5274
    gavmcg92
    Registered Users Posts: 5,316 ✭✭✭gavmcg92


    Elmo wrote: »
    They stopped booing later on. While people are entitled to protest, at whom do you protest. Is a talent show the place to do that? You don't know the girls opinions of Putin and his administration do they honestly be deserved to be booed?

    I am not sure if the winning song won because it was good song or just a novelty? It might be 50/50.

    I'm still on the fence about the booing. While the girls don't deserved to be treated in such a manner, an international competition where they are there representing their country seems to be an adequate place to make a point. Possibly a silent protest would have made more sense.


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    #5275
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,289 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Elmo wrote: »
    They stopped booing later on. While people are entitled to protest, at whom do you protest. Is a talent show the place to do that? You don't know the girls opinions of Putin and his administration do they honestly be deserved to be booed?

    I am not sure if the winning song won because it was good song or just a novelty? It might be 50/50.

    Exactly it was a few boos here and there. It's not really a big deal surely?

    For every one person that liked Conchita because he was a man dressed in drag with a beard, there was thousands of haters out there that didn't even give her a chance.

    So no, she won because she had a great song.


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    #5276
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    For every one person that liked Conchita because he was a man dressed in drag with a beard, there was thousands of haters out there that didn't even give her a chance.

    So no, she won because she had a great song.

    I don't know I am still on the fence on that one, I am not sure about the song at all. It's okay, though I don't think much of Eurovision Songs.

    I think the novelty factor has to be consider also, and to be honest I don't think the novelty factor is really a factor to consider in terms of any political cache that may come from such a winner and that is disappointing.

    Though in saying that if it is a good song the novelty factor is moot.


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    #5277
    ShaneMc2012
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭ShaneMc2012


    http://oikotimes.com/2014/05/12/greece-seriously-thinking-to-withdraw/

    Although I didnt like their song that much this year I do think they bring the entertainment factor each year and it would be a shame to see them go!
    I heard that the three other possibly withdrawing countries are France, Azerbaijan and Russia. Being totally honest I won't be sad to see the back of either of the last two!


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    #5278
    hfallada
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭hfallada


    gavmcg92 wrote: »
    I'm still on the fence about the booing. While the girls don't deserved to be treated in such a manner, an international competition where they are there representing their country seems to be an adequate place to make a point. Possibly a silent protest would have made more sense.

    Everyone knows what booing means. It shows the people of Russia who dont have free media, that the west isnt happy with their Government. Silence could have been sold to listeners as something else like technical problems


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    #5279
    Lirange
    Registered Users Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭Lirange


    youreadthat wrote: »
    One of the worst eurovisions ever.

    Oh I don't know. I've a new found appreciation for butter churning.


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    #5280
    TGJD
    Registered Users Posts: 432 ✭✭TGJD


    I thought the standard was much better than usual by far. Some actually good songs in there for a change, I was a bit disappointed that switzerland didn't do better they were excellent. Poland deserved a better placing too as they were a big favourite with the televoters and put on a great performance in fairness, it was actually fun, upbeat and a very clever satire of the backwards stereotypes people have of Poland. Although many of the fun police disagreed and hated it because the eurovision is serious business and no place for such shenanigans. Austria were very good, wouldn't have had them winning myself but can't say it wasn't a good performance. Would love to have seen Switzerland win as stated or Norway and for Iceland to do well too as they were quite fun as well. Russia were unfairly booed in my opinion, I understand the point many are making here but if I recall correctly the song was quite good and performed by two 17 year old girls not Putin. I don;t think they will go back to Russia and change policies nor will Putin be worried that the eurovision audience booed some teenagers who happen to be from Russia. I doubt he was even watching.


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    #5281
    TGJD
    Registered Users Posts: 432 ✭✭TGJD


    yerwanthere123 wrote: »
    I can assure you that that's not true.

    For one every breath you take is still one of the all time classic recognisable songs so the Netherlands' heavily plagiarised song will be memorable.


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