Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2014 - Mod Warning post #6893

Charlie19 · 11-05-2014 11:03PM

klose wrote: »

10 goals in 40 apps, 29 starts and 11 subs apparently. Not bad, considering the positions hes played and that sunderland were abysmal at times. Id keep him personally.

Yeah bring him back and send Aspas out loan. Still think we'll need to sign another striker.

I'd also let Lori go out on loan to an English team

Sappy404 wrote: »

Flawless logic: loads of managers in the PL are foreign; conclusion: English managers don't get a chance.

Has it occurred to these xenophobes that if the Premier League really is the best league in the world that it might attract the best players and managers from around the world to Premier League clubs?

And more specifically, does Sherwood realise that it's the things he has said that will cost him his job, and not the results he's earned?

I think heard someone mention that he has the best win ratio than any of the previous Spurs manger in the PL.

I have to admit I'm liking him a little more after every interview. I think his honesty is great.

I wonder what the spurs fans make of now, I'l try and find their hidden domain;)

gosplan · 11-05-2014 11:06PM

Yez really need to keep Suarez for another year regardless of the offer.

He's not irreplaceable but it's close to it when there's other parts of the team that need loads of attention.

Hang on to him for another year and get the other 10 players and the bench sorted. Then when they're all good and integrated, cash in and figure out where to go from there.

Taking on major change in the defence and attack in one season is risky.

Utopia Parkway · 11-05-2014 11:10PM

gosplan wrote: »

Yez really need to keep Suarez for another year regardless of the offer.

Apparently the official line is they expect him to be at Liverpool next season and so does he.

It's football though so who knows.

Hollister11 · 11-05-2014 11:11PM

Lads came down, suarez is going no where

klose · 11-05-2014 11:17PM

Hollister11 wrote: »

Lads came down, suarez is going no where

But, but a couple of people on an internet forum said hed leave and we'll struggle to even come 4th next year, how can i be calm with comments like these!!

Hoki · 11-05-2014 11:26PM

Charlie19 wrote: »

Yeah bring him back and send Aspas out loan. Still think we'll need to sign another striker.

I'd also let Lori go out on loan to an English team

I think heard someone mention that he has the best win ratio than any of the previous Spurs manger in the PL.

I have to admit I'm liking him a little more after every interview. I think his honesty is great.

I wonder what the spurs fans make of now, I'l try and find their hidden domain;)

Would serve no purpose sending Aspas out on loan , he's 27 in August. Sell him or keep him have to be the only two options regarding him.

redzerdrog · 11-05-2014 11:33PM

Hoki wrote: »

Would serve no purpose sending Aspas out on loan , he's 27 in August. Sell him or keep him have to be the only two options regarding him.

there is really only one option to be honest

Charlie19 · 11-05-2014 11:40PM

Hoki wrote: »

Would serve no purpose sending Aspas out on loan , he's 27 in August. Sell him or keep him have to be the only two options regarding him.

Well if his loan could have similar success to that of Borinni then it could generate a better fee, if the club decided to sell. As it stands, I cant see many clubs looking at him as a potential new signing. If you're right with those two options, then I don't think Rodgers will keep him as he always seemed to favour Moses.

GotTheTshirt · 11-05-2014 11:57PM

Charlie19 wrote: »

Well if his loan could have similar success to that of Borinni then it could generate a better fee, if the club decided to sell. As it stands, I cant see many clubs looking at him as a potential new signing. If you're right with those two options, then I don't think Rodgers will keep him as he always seemed to favour Moses.

Am I alone in thinking there must have been some clause in the loan deal for Moses regarding minimum amount of appearances or something similar, that would have driven up the fee if not met?

I genuinely thought he was a good addition when he was brought in, he's a sham of a footballer though. I think he has talent but there's zero application/spirit/heart or whatever you want to call it.

I can't believe that Rogers hasn't seen that and he was unceremoniously turfed out today.

Charlie19 · 12-05-2014 12:11AM

GotTheTshirt wrote: »

Am I alone in thinking there must have been some clause in the loan deal for Moses regarding minimum amount of appearances or something similar, that would have driven up the fee if not met?

I genuinely thought he was a good addition when he was brought in, he's a sham of a footballer though. I think he has talent but there's zero application/spirit/heart or whatever you want to call it.

I can't believe that Rogers hasn't seen that and he was unceremoniously turfed out today.

No you're not alone on that, I remember thinking something similar a couple of weeks ago. At least Moses has said that he wants to go back to Chelsea and will no longer be our problem.

mosstin · 12-05-2014 12:14AM

One reason to be happy the season is over - the last of Victor Moses in a Liverpool jersey.

Charlie19 · 12-05-2014 12:25AM

It be great next season to see how Rodgers fairs out in the CL, I cant wait for the draw:) How odd would it be to come up against Napoli and more importantly Benitez.
(He will get some reception)

I hope the board really support Rodgers and supply enough funds to compete in the league and give a reasonable go at the CL. I think the knockout stages would be a realistic target, if we're lucky in the draw.

Chucky the tree · 12-05-2014 12:27AM

Devilman40k wrote: »

No. If anything has been proven this season is how badly we missed Henderson in the 3 games of his suspension. We need more energy/pace in midfield. So CB and CM are equally important in my opinion.

Build a solid spine in the side.

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

I have to agree with this, I truly believe that if Henderson hadn't been suspended we'd be sitting here as champions.

After todays game I'm surprised people still peddle this. Maybe he was the essential cog in today's win though.

BMMachine · 12-05-2014 01:00AM

well that was a fun ride

never saw this coming back in September. We are back challenging for titles, we are back in the Champions League and we are back to playing some great football. Really would prefer Arsenal or United to win the premier league considering how chelsea and city are funded but ya know, having standards and principals is lost on those who need others to win for them

ASOT · 12-05-2014 01:06AM

Owl Jon didnt do to bad this season!

Nerdlingr · 12-05-2014 01:08AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Skrtel is a liability.

We let in 50 goals this year and he had one of best seasons. Says it all. I'd sell him in a heartbeat

He has been our best defender though. And chipped in with some important goals along the way. I still dont know why Rodgers didnt reunite him with Agger once he came back from injury. And I cant understand the amount of Sakho love on here, apparently the lad can do no wrong. He seems to have been lumped in with lucas in the 'boss' and 'beast' category. I was delighted to see Agger back today. I was on for selling him in the summer but if the only we option we have is Sakho in as cover I'd be on for keeping him now.

galwaylad14 · 12-05-2014 01:09AM

Absolutley outstanding season for Liverpool. However I think this will be looked back on as a huge missed opportunity for Liverpool to win the league. While they outperformed what was expected, I'm a massive believer that in sport when the chance is there that you just have to grab it as it's impossible know when/if it'll come along again.

Liverpool had the league virtually won this year and blew it. They may not get the chance again for 10 years. I know they've a young team and made great progress this season, it's important to remember that progress in football is not linear and it's impossible to know what way the club will be atter it

GotTheTshirt · 12-05-2014 01:35AM

galwaylad14 wrote: »

Liverpool had the league virtually won this year and blew it.

Absolute nonsense.

You're in a long line of people who've said this btw, but you're still wrong.:)

murpho999 · 12-05-2014 01:43AM

This idea that Livepool blew it or bottled it really annoys me.

Yes, we had it in our own hands but so do most teams at the top of the league.
So did Chelsea and Arsenal too but no one talks of them blowing it.

With 3 games to go we needed 7 points and we got 4.
Where did lose the 3 required points? Against Chelsea.

One defeat against a top side. I don't see how that means we blew it.

BMMachine · 12-05-2014 02:22AM

murpho999 wrote: »

This idea that Livepool blew it or bottled it really annoys me.

Yes, we had it in our own hands but so do most teams at the top of the league.
So did Chelsea and Arsenal too but no one talks of them blowing it.

With 3 games to go we needed 7 points and we got 4.
Where did lose the 3 required points? Against Chelsea.

One defeat against a top side. I don't see how that means we blew it.

don't you get it? we "blew it" because that means other fans win more. this is all in their heads of course. certain football fans need another clubs failure to tick up mental victories, so they will say and post as such because they need to feel better about something. it fills a hole. remember those guys back in school who knew nothing about football but still wanted to go with the crowd and have someone else win for them? they would be the type to say things such as "you blew it" as they aren't working with logic or fact, they work with ego and pride

simongurnick · 12-05-2014 02:55AM

Ultimately it would have taken 14 wins on the bounce to win it. Yes, it was in our hands, but never was the done deal the media and bookies liked to portray.
The other side of the coin is that City stayed strong. Look at La Liga, top three sides all dropping points the last two weeks. City won 5 in a row and become champs.
It was a wild ride this season and long may it continue. In a year when my father passed away, this team provided me with some joyous moments. I literally found myself laughing out load during games, such was the sheer brilliance on display.
Maintaining the attacking flair while shoring up the defence will be key...but not always an easy balance to strike.

Jesus Wept · 12-05-2014 03:00AM

Aspas is one for the future.

~Rebel~ · 12-05-2014 03:26AM

Roller coaster of a season. Am a big ball of contradicting emotions - gutted we didn't win it, but also delighted with 2nd.

What's been especially incredible under Rodgers thus far is the consistency in improvements - he's been here for 2 seasons. If we break those into half seasons, it's very interesting to see.

1st half last year - poor results, but could see a general plan.
2nd half last year - started putting impressive results together, in or abouts 2points per game.
1st hale this year - Kept up our form, improving to a little over 2ppg.
2nd half this year - Stepped up another gear to win an incredible 15 of our last 19 league games from January first onwards, with only 1 defeat in this time.

All season we've been experiencing "too good to be true" feelings after past heartbreak, but the one thing we've seen at all times since Rodgers arrived is consistent improvement...now, I don't expect us to win 30 league games next season, but I finally think i'm over the constant fear of a "false dawn".

jethro081 · 12-05-2014 05:53AM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Roller coaster of a season. Am a big ball of contradicting emotions - gutted we didn't win it, but also delighted with 2nd.

What's been especially incredible under Rodgers thus far is the consistency in improvements - he's been here for 2 seasons. If we break those into half seasons, it's very interesting to see.

1st half last year - poor results, but could see a general plan.
2nd half last year - started putting impressive results together, in or abouts 2points per game.
1st hale this year - Kept up our form, improving to a little over 2ppg.
2nd half this year - Stepped up another gear to win an incredible 15 of our last 19 league games from January first onwards, with only 1 defeat in this time.

All season we've been experiencing "too good to be true" feelings after past heartbreak, but the one thing we've seen at all times since Rodgers arrived is consistent improvement...now, I don't expect us to win 30 league games next season, but I finally think i'm over the constant fear of a "false dawn".

I'm not

If we won the next five leagues in a row, i think i'd still be waiting for the other shoe to drop. 2010 has me very afraid cos we were in great shape that time as well before the walls came tumbling down.

It's strange, this is the best liverpool league season i've ever seen, and i'm sick to my stomach at it. Very proud of the team all the same, but i'm gutted.

galwaylad14 · 12-05-2014 06:36AM

simongurnick wrote: »

Ultimately it would have taken 14 wins on the bounce to win it. Yes, it was in our hands, but never was the done deal the media and bookies liked to portray.
The other side of the coin is that City stayed strong. Look at La Liga, top three sides all dropping points the last two weeks. City won 5 in a row and become champs.
It was a wild ride this season and long may it continue. In a year when my father passed away, this team provided me with some joyous moments. I literally found myself laughing out load during games, such was the sheer brilliance on display.
Maintaining the attacking flair while shoring up the defence will be key...but not always an easy balance to strike.

I'm not 100% on this but I'm fairly sure you're wrong about needing the 14 wins I'm a row. Wouldn't a draw with Chelsea and 2 wins have done it?

To be fair at one stage Liverpool were 1/6 to win the league. That's virtually what you'd regard as a certainty. Failure to then win it given that must be a huge disappointment.

My point is just that because Liverpool improved so much this year, there's no guarantee they'll build on it and I think ultimately they'll look back at this season with huge regret. Just my opinion

gimli2112 · 12-05-2014 06:41AM

galwaylad14 wrote: »

I'm not 100% on this but I'm fairly sure you're wrong about needing the 14 wins I'm a row. Wouldn't a draw with Chelsea and 2 wins have done it?

To be fair at one stage Liverpool were 1/6 to win the league. That's virtually what you'd regard as a certainty. Failure to then win it given that must be a huge disappointment.

My point is just that because Liverpool improved so much this year, there's no guarantee they'll build on it and I think ultimately they'll look back at this season with huge regret. Just my opinion

Saw those odds. Think it was just before the Norwich game. City were 9/2. Was going to throw €100 on City but was afraid I'd jinx something (muppet). Think the bookies got the price wrong 1/6 with Chelsea/Palace to come made no sense to me at the time.

bad2dabone · 12-05-2014 06:49AM

3 points clear with 3 games to go.

I'd consider that blowing it.

Dickerty · 12-05-2014 07:19AM

bad2dabone wrote: »

3 points clear with 3 games to go.

I'd consider that blowing it.

How is that different to Chelsea losing twice away from home in the run in? Just because of the dates of the games? You get 3 points for them all the same.

And winning the Palace game wouldn't have mattered, we'd have lost of goal difference. So we needed 7 points from 9, which is ALWAYS hard. City had much easier fixtures...

Dickerty · 12-05-2014 07:32AM

So Ashley Cole has retired from International Football - all the more reason to make a move for him? I think he'd prefer a move abroad so he won't have to face 2 former clubs next season, but Toure didn't mind...

NukaCola · 12-05-2014 07:33AM

bad2dabone wrote: »

3 points clear with 3 games to go.

I'd consider that blowing it.

That would be the general view. Avoiding a defeat at Home to Chelsea was the key. The title really hinged on that result after all the hard work put in.

Still though, you have to give the result in context. In the last 14 games of the season LFC won 12 drew 1 and lost 1. No disgrace to be beaten by Chelsea at home or to come second to Manchester City in the league.

Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2014 - Mod Warning post #6893

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