Kurt Cobain died 20 years ago today

Jamsiek · 14-04-2014 03:16PM

eviltimeban wrote: »

I wonder would Kurt have sung these songs, or would they be like Marigold with Grohl on vocals (and guitar, in that case)? I wonder would Nirvana have become a two-vocalist band?

Good question, maybe Nirvana could have adopted a more Foo Fighter sound due to Grohl's influence. I'm sure it would have been a good combination.

eviltimeban · 15-04-2014 09:28AM

Jamsiek wrote: »

Good question, maybe Nirvana could have adopted a more Foo Fighter sound due to Grohl's influence. I'm sure it would have been a good combination.

Maybe first album Foo Fighters; I think Kurt would've been too "punk rock" to make a very commercial record. I think suspect he may have retreated further into Melvins / Earth style dirgy stuff. But who knows where music would've gone had he stayed alive - would grunge have flourished or died? Would Britpop have happened? It was stirring from '92/93 onwards as a reaction to grunge... Would Pearl Jam have been as big, or bigger?

I think some songs from the first Foo Fighters album would've been very good Nirvana songs, but I can't see it going further than that.

Jamsiek · 15-04-2014 02:03PM

eviltimeban wrote: »

Maybe first album Foo Fighters; I think Kurt would've been too "punk rock" to make a very commercial record. I think suspect he may have retreated further into Melvins / Earth style dirgy stuff. But who knows where music would've gone had he stayed alive - would grunge have flourished or died? Would Britpop have happened? It was stirring from '92/93 onwards as a reaction to grunge... Would Pearl Jam have been as big, or bigger?

I think some songs from the first Foo Fighters album would've been very good Nirvana songs, but I can't see it going further than that.

Kurt was collaborating with Michael Stipe so I think he was changing direction anyway. Pity we will never know for sure

eviltimeban · 15-04-2014 02:32PM

Jamsiek wrote: »

Kurt was collaborating with Michael Stipe so I think he was changing direction anyway. Pity we will never know for sure

Don't forget, around that time REM were changing style too, remember Monster? That was sort of their "grunge" album. :-)

Maybe they would've met somewhere in the middle.

Can't stand Stipe personally so its probably just as well... :eek:

Jamsiek · 15-04-2014 02:56PM

eviltimeban wrote: »

Don't forget, around that time REM were changing style too, remember Monster? That was sort of their "grunge" album. :-)

Maybe they would've met somewhere in the middle.

Can't stand Stipe personally so its probably just as well... :eek:

Yes I remember Monster was a very different direction for them.
Interesting that they reverted to their previous sound after it though.
Maybe that new sound just didn't suit them.

eviltimeban · 15-04-2014 03:17PM

Jamsiek wrote: »

Yes I remember Monster was a very different direction for them.
Interesting that they reverted to their previous sound after it though.
Maybe that new sound just didn't suit them.

They never really got back to it though, fully - they were never so cleanly commercial sounding again after Monster.

Jamsiek · 15-04-2014 03:42PM

eviltimeban wrote: »

They never really got back to it though, fully - they were never so cleanly commercial sounding again after Monster.

That's true, it was all downhill after that.

Rothko · 15-04-2014 04:26PM

Jamsiek wrote: »

That's true, it was all downhill after that.

Ah, they did have some good albums after it.

rubadub · 15-04-2014 05:22PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

All I remember is not keeping my ticket for the gig on the night he died.Thise tickets were selling for 1500 pounds at the time.

I can't find any stories about them going for that much.

I have no doubt chancers might have put them up as a buy it now price on ebay for that, but that does not mean it sold for that, but journalists like to make out like it did, I expect many of the sellers might be the journalist themselves.

Here was someone looking for €75 on adverts

http://www.adverts.ie/memorabilia/unused-nirvana-ticket-1994/2321071

Here is some chancer looking for €450
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIRVANA-Rare-Collectable-Concert-ticket-UNUSED-From-8th-April-1994-/141229269719?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_205&hash=item20e1eba2d7

If you look at completed listings it shows what actually sold in the last month, you can see one for €100 got no bids
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nirvana-unused-concert-ticket-dated-8th-April-1994-for-the-Dublin-concert-Rare-/271435516902?pt=UK_Music_Music_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item3f32d14be6

eviltimeban · 15-04-2014 07:51PM

Well the one on the Juliens site definitely went for 470 dollars or whatever it was.

Hotblack Desiato · 03-05-2014 12:30AM

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

I saw them in the Top Hat in Dun Laoghaire the following day (August 21st 1991). Both them and Sonic Youth were great that night. The tickets cost £8. On the way up from Kildare, as we were passing through Templeogue (I think), everything went green as we crashed into the side of a double-decker bus...

I was there too. Still have the ticket somewhere

Nirvana were LOUD and full of piss and vinegar and amazing.

I've been to quite a few SY gigs but that was my first and probably the best, although the Olympia one during the Washing Machine tour ran it close.

That's a night that can never be equalled.

Some very short clips of it are in the DVD '1991 - The Year Punk Broke'.

Tokarev · 03-05-2014 01:05AM

Kurt, he was so good he had to be so bad and blast his own head off.

Poor soul.

eviltimeban · 03-05-2014 01:08AM

Tokarev wrote: »

Kurt, he was so good he had to be so bad and blast his own head off.

Poor soul.

Courtney did it! :P

Tokarev · 03-05-2014 01:14AM

eviltimeban wrote: »

Courtney did it! :P

Shot JR too.

FreshTendrils · 03-05-2014 01:16AM

Worksforyou wrote: »

I was talking about Tom Grant the private investigator in this thread last week. He's going to release a movie about the vents leading up to his death. It's called Soaked in Bleach, here's the trailer:

It's not really Grant's movie but it's based on his perspective and he was a consultant on set.

I hope the film addresses the possible involvement of that weasel nanny Cali DeWitt.

Worksforyou · 03-05-2014 12:31PM

FreshTendrils wrote: »

It's not really Grant's movie but it's based on his perspective and he was a consultant on set.

I hope the film addresses the possible involvement of that weasel nanny Cali DeWitt.

He was acting very strange around the time. He's the number one suspect for being in the shed with Kurt.

Always number 1 · 06-05-2014 09:48PM

pundy wrote: »

eh... her da was a total acid junkie. he gave her an lsd tab when she was 6.

plus all this talk of Love being the junkie scum, surely Kurt is classed as that aswell - more-so? as he died a junkie. she got sober.

If she wasn't a junkie, why was she rushed to hospital with an OD around the time his body was discovered?

Worksforyou wrote: »

Just on Courtney Love, I think the news that she's allowing Nirvanas music to be used in a musical is enough reason to dislike her.
I think the views of those who were closest to the situation and knew what was going on should be given the most credence. Dave Grohl hates her, there's so many people who have had negative stories to tell about her, she jumped from one band to Billy Corgan to Kurt Cobain in looking for her fame ticket.
Plus her 94 album which is generally thought of as her best, was clearly written by Cobain. You can even hear him singing backing vocals in demos released. Did she kill him?
I don't know but when I read Tom Grants website a few years ago I was leaning towards yes. I haven't read it in about 5/6 years but just had a look there now again. Here's the link: http://www.cobaincase.com/
He makes a very convincing case.

One poster mentioned that Kurts suicide was a great career move for him. It didn't hurt Courtney too badly either - she released Live Through This a few days after his death and it went gold.

pO1Neil · 06-05-2014 09:57PM

Bobby Sands died yesterday - A true Irish hero R.I.P.

SilverScreen · 06-05-2014 10:29PM

pO1Neil wrote: »

Bobby Sands died yesterday - A true Irish hero R.I.P.

Nah.

eviltimeban · 07-05-2014 09:44AM

pO1Neil wrote: »

Bobby Sands died yesterday - A true Irish hero R.I.P.

He died yesterday did he? :rolleyes:

sunflower27 · 07-05-2014 10:18AM

Wow, how fast 20 years go by. I remember I was in Sydney with my first boyfriend. He was a huge Cobain fan and really into grunge music at the time. We were driving along and heard the news on the radio. I remember telling him to pull over. He was in shock and I thought he may cause an accident.

20 years!!! wow.

eviltimeban · 07-05-2014 10:41AM

sunflower27 wrote: »

20 years!!! wow.

It'll scare you the amount of things that are 20 years old. Oasis's first album. "Grace" by Jeff Buckley. OJ Simpson getting arrested. Forrest Gump. Pink Floyd's last album. Beastie Boys "Ill Communication". Fred West arrested. Mandela becomes president. The Lion King. "The General" killed. Schumacher wins his first F1 championship. Senna killed. Weezer's debut album. "Purple" by Stone Temple Pilots. "Vitalogy" by Pearl Jam.

Kurt Cobain died 20 years ago today

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